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| Crusaders are not good for the game IMO, 14 of last weeks squad overseas, they had a promising Full back, but went and signed, who's name are can't spell, Shivkoski??? only my opinion though,. Is,nt TL injured too, he's not played many, must admit Thacks looks in better shape though!!!
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| Thacks looks like he's playing for a contract and lee plays limited minutes.
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| Quote ="FCTID"Crusaders are not good for the game IMO, 14 of last weeks squad overseas, they had a promising Full back, but went and signed, who's name are can't spell, Shivkoski??? only my opinion though,. Is,nt TL injured too, he's not played many, must admit Thacks looks in better shape though!!!'"
Agree but I feel that we would have probably bought the wrong players in and /or not got them gelling in the time scale that Noble has. We would have been saying it'll take two years for these players to get used to the english game/weather /political system etc
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| Quote ="fc baldy"I remember saying this last season when Warrington appointed Smith.....he sorted the Discipline out when he got there,shipped Gleeson out and got Mathers......and he got under-performing players like Monaghan and King playing well......he has just brought structure to a team that has had no additions,similar to Mcguire at Wigan......its is blindingly obvious to all the fans that this is the answer but not to our board.'"
Indeed. In the words of Albert Einstein "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
That's what Hull are doing in sticking by Richard Agar despite performances over the last couple of years. Meanwhile other clubs such as Warrington, Wigan and Huddersfield (aside from yesterday) have decided to bite the bullet and appoint a top class coach.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Thacks looks like he's playing for a contract and lee plays limited minutes.'"
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| Spot on OP. A few years back when we were doing well I used to worry that when Simon Moran eventually sacked his mate Cullen they would overtake us, I was mightily relieved when it did happen that he only replaced him with that clown Lowes. Unfortunately though Moran soon came to his senses and got them a proper coach and the rest is history.
It's a similar story with Huddersfield, Jon Sharp had clearly taken them as far as he was ever going to so they eventually replaced him with a top
class coach. Since then they've improved massively... While we appointed their reject to our coaching set up!
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"It's a similar story with Huddersfield, Jon Sharp had clearly taken them as far as he was ever going to so they eventually replaced him with a top
class coach. Since then they've improved massively... While we appointed their reject to our coaching set up!'"
Sharp also brought the Giants conditioner with him IIRC. From which point our fitness appears to have declined and theirs improved. Figures.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Indeed. In the words of Albert Einstein [u"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"[/u.
That's what Hull are doing in sticking by Richard Agar despite performances over the last couple of years. Meanwhile other clubs such as Warrington, Wigan and Huddersfield (aside from yesterday) have decided to bite the bullet and appoint a top class coach.'"
Can we make that into a massive banner and display it in the East Stand at the next home game?
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Spot on OP. A few years back when we were doing well I used to worry that when Simon Moran eventually sacked his mate Cullen they would overtake us, I was mightily relieved when it did happen that he only replaced him with that clown Lowes. Unfortunately though Moran soon came to his senses and got them a proper coach and the rest is history.
It's a similar story with Huddersfield, Jon Sharp had clearly taken them as far as he was ever going to so they eventually replaced him with a top
class coach. Since then they've improved massively... While we appointed their reject to our coaching set up!'" d
I'm not an Agar lover, but how has Brown really improved Hudds? he's strengthened, or so it would seem by getting Brough, thats why he went for him, they;ve been hammered out the cup, stuffed by Wigan last week,with few if any injuries!!! am i missing something here? he got them to a cup final, so did RA, Sharp got Hudds to one too, Sharp was heavily critised on here, then some took it all back and said he was Crusaders coach with Noble as team manager and 'what a great job they're doing', i'm as pi++ed off as anyone, but why all the comparsisons with this coach, that coach, this team, that team,?????
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| Quote ="FCTID"d
I'm not an Agar lover, but how has Brown really improved Hudds? he's strengthened, or so it would seem by getting Brough, thats why he went for him, they;ve been hammered out the cup, stuffed by Wigan last week,with few if any injuries!!! am i missing something here? he got them to a cup final, so did RA, Sharp got Hudds to one too, Sharp was heavily critised on here, then some took it all back and said he was Crusaders coach with Noble as team manager and 'what a great job they're doing', i'm as pi++ed off as anyone, but why all the comparsisons with this coach, that coach, this team, that team,?????'"
Good Lord.
If it's not abundantly obvious to you already I really can't see the point in explaining the numerous vast improvements NB has made at Huddersfield.
Perhaps you should go on the Giants board and ask them if they think they are any better off than they were under JS.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Good Lord.
If it's not abundantly obvious to you already I really can't see the point in explaining the numerous vast improvements NB has made at Huddersfield.
Perhaps you should go on the Giants board and ask them if they think they are any better off than they were under JS.'"
Good Lord!!
I have looked at their board, not much on it really, apart from some slagging off Hodgson, some praising Brown for having a go at Cummings re: a hit on little Luke, so you explain the improvements? 
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Good Lord.
If it's not abundantly obvious to you already I really can't see the point in explaining the numerous vast improvements NB has made at Huddersfield.
Perhaps you should go on the Giants board and ask them if they think they are any better off than they were under JS.'"
Last season there were 2 teams who over achieved greatly, the Giants were one and we all know who the others were. For crying out loud it weren't so long ago that we were beating Huddersfield and Saints comfortably and looking a good team in the process. Would like to see how NB would do with our squad, he would appear to have improved a couple of their players, Kevin Brown being one, but not sure he has done as much as some would think and I dont think they will be anywhere near the top come the business end to the season (not suggesting we will be either). I am more inclined to believe other teams had started slowly but have now picked up their game, leaving us to look sadly out of our depth along with the Giants, a situation being enhanced by injuries yet again.
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| The thing is some on their board are saying NB has lost the 'changing room' and are NOT happy!!!!
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| Quote ="FCTID"The thing is some on their board are saying NB has lost the 'changing room' and are NOT happy!!!!'"
RA isn't going to lose the changing room though is he, surely he'd just send the Featherstone/Normanton/Ponte mafia round to sort it
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| Quote ="FCTID"d
I'm not an Agar lover, but how has Brown really improved Hudds? he's strengthened, or so it would seem by getting Brough, thats why he went for him, they;ve been hammered out the cup, stuffed by Wigan last week,with few if any injuries!!! am i missing something here? he got them to a cup final, so did RA, Sharp got Hudds to one too, Sharp was heavily critised on here, then some took it all back and said he was Crusaders coach with Noble as team manager and 'what a great job they're doing', i'm as pi++ed off as anyone, but why all the comparsisons with this coach, that coach, this team, that team,?????'"
They finished 3rd last year and got to wembley. We finished 12th and didn't
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| Quote ="djcXIII"RA isn't going to lose the changing room though is he, surely he'd just send the Featherstone/Normanton/Ponte mafia round to sort it'"
Apparrently so!!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"They finished 3rd last year and got to wembley. We finished 12th and didn't'"
Fair comment, but we did the year before, so now NB is out the cup and won't finish higher than 3rd, so he's not improved Giants!!! apparrently since strengthening his squad, they've lost to Salford, Wigan and Wire!!! just can't see this NB loveathon!!
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| Quote ="FCTID"Fair comment, but we did the year before, so now NB is out the cup and won't finish higher than 3rd, so he's not improved Giants!!! apparrently since strengthening his squad, they've lost to Salford, Wigan and Wire!!! just can't see this NB loveathon!!'"
He's off at the end of the season so has probably lost interest. The 7 arrests won't have helped things
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| Quote ="FCTID"Fair comment, but we did the year before, so now NB is out the cup and won't finish higher than 3rd, so he's not improved Giants!!! apparrently since strengthening his squad, they've lost to Salford, Wigan and Wire!!! just can't see this NB loveathon!!'"

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| Where's that ex professional something or other gone? Wanted his views on this one.
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| Are people really suggesting that Huddersfield havent improved under Brown?
They finished 3rd last season and look on course to finish around there again, Ok they got a good beating in the cup but that was one game.
Look how much he has improved players like Mason, Grix and Brown, brought players like Lunt and Cudjoe on.
He is a great coach and would love to have him at Hull.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Where's that ex professional something or other gone? Wanted his views on this one.'"
Rula caught him posting and has stood him outside his office, he'll be getting the cane any time now
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Quote ="FCTID"Fair comment, but we did the year before, so now NB is out the cup and won't finish higher than 3rd, so he's not improved Giants!!! apparrently since strengthening his squad, they've lost to Salford, Wigan and Wire!!! just can't see this NB loveathon!!'"
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HTH
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Where's that ex professional something or other gone? Wanted his views on this one.'"
 You did
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_eek.gif You did'"
Well no not really , now you mention it
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