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| Not a firework signing but I'd rather have Aspinwall then someone like that Ephrame Lauaki who you got rid of. He's a solid grafter, every team needs 1 or 2 to do a job defensively.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Is this the royal "we" ?
Speak for yourself - I'm very enthused about the new season and everything that has happened/is happening in and around the club. Just because a message board rumours thread suggests Sika Manu is signed and sealed doesn't mean to say that "we" all believed it.'"
Just looking at the majority of the posters on this thread. If you're happy with this signing then good for you, but the majority of the posters on this thread do not consider Martin Aspinwall to be the kind of signing AP's statements had led them to believe we'd be making.
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| the majority of players who sign for us often refer to our passionate support of everything black and white and as one of the reasons that made them sign,i hope neither martin or aspinwall read these threads as their opinions might change-for gods sake give them a chance to pull a shirt on before we rubbish them as many did with westerman
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"I agree. Lets break the rules of the cap & face a big fine maybe even a points deduction
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Have Wire being fined had points deducted??
How naive are some folk, get real, if we really want to be up there with the likes of Wire we need ways around the salary cap, and with AP coming in most of us thought this would happen, but as of yet it dosnt look like it has.
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| Quote ="Lang Park"The biggest problem we have had at the club still remains.
Forget about the rights and wrongs of various signings, the big issue as I see it is the communication from the club and the management of expectations.
The statements of strategic intent that AP made when he took over about repositioning the club as a genuine contender and investing in top quality talent were designed to lift the club and its supporters, and set out a grand vision for the future.
As we all know, we were all genuinely enthused and looked forward to the delivery of signings and success as set out in his statements.
The problem is however that the signings that have been made do not live up to what was promised, and so we all feel cheated. Just like when you buy a branded peice of clothing or consumer goods you expect a certain level of performance that you associate with the brand, and if it doesn't live up to the brands promise then you feel robbed, and lose trust in that particular brand.
This is where I have always disagreed with the opinion that Rule was such a great marketer. He built a brand that didn't deliver on what it promised, and for that he lost a great deal of respect and trust from the fans.
AP should have come out and set out his vision for the future, but at the same time outlined a timetable and explained that consolidation was necessary and getting to the top 4, then top 2 would take time, and require a rebuilding process.
If he'd done this there wouldn't be half the negativity on here that there is today.
The risk is that he's raised expectations too far too soon, and his honeymoon period could be over before the seasons even started.'"
I think anyone with any common sense and knowledge of the game knew that it would take time. You can't just go cancelling contracts left right and centre and make other clubs part with their best players cos we want them to. While Pearson didn't put a timescale on making the club a top 2 team he also didn't say it would be next season. I'd be interested to know who you think we should have signed and who we should have got rid of and by what means. The only 2 questionable signings are both on 12 month contracts,i think some people need a reality check.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Have Wire being fined had points deducted??
How naive are some folk, get real, if we really want to be up there with the likes of Wire we need ways around the salary cap, and with AP coming in most of us thought this would happen, but as of yet it dosnt look like it has.'"
Yes cos Warrington went from where they where,to where they are now in one close season.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Like signing Lynch.
Money's only good
If you can fit a player under the cap
They want to leave
The club want to sell.
Not much quality available this year.
[uLeeds signing Moore 3 year deal
Wigan signing Lauaki 3 year deal[/u.
At least ours are only 1 year.'"
Just shows the lack of availability within the forwards!
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Have Wire being fined had points deducted??
How naive are some folk, get real, if we really want to be up there with the likes of Wire we need ways around the salary cap, and with AP coming in most of us thought this would happen, but as of yet it dosnt look like it has.'"
A lot of their players were already at the club when Tony Smith took over.
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| Don't you all just get the impression there's one more signing to come once a visa is rubber stamped?
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| one thing is certain, Gentle can't lose next season, if we win things he'll be lauded, if we lose he can blame McRae for picking the players.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Have Wire being fined had points deducted??
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Have they been found guilty of breaking the cap like you suggest we do?
Dont forget that the cap is live now & has been for a while so any signings they do make have to be approved by the RFL 1st.
Just because lots of people say Wire break the cap every year doesn't make it true.
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| Quote ="Standee"one thing is certain, Gentle can't lose next season, if we win things he'll be lauded, if we lose he can blame McRae for picking the players.'"
Which players will Mcrae have picked or be picking?
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| Quote ="BESTY"Which players will Mcrae have picked or be picking?'"
Lynch, O'Carrol, Martin and Aspinwall for a start.
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| Quote ="Standee"Lynch, O'Carrol, Martin and Aspinwall for a start.'"
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Don't you all just get the impression there's one more signing to come once a visa is rubber stamped?'"
Think that will be it for now.I think they will leave the quota palce open and see what happens during the course of the season.
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| Firstly, could we maybe have a seperate thread for petty sniping about what he has/hasn't done in his personal life and how he should/shouldn't be treated for it?
Secondly, looking at him from a playing perspective: I've never particularly rated him (how he's made national squads is beyond me), and his injury record is spotted with niggles. It's a questionable signing but does add numbers we need in the back row is only on a 1-year deal, so may work out ok.
Putting this signing together with Martin, it does look like the club are struggling with recruitment due to what's already signed up, hence the 1-year deals for uninspiring names. Looks to me like next year is the target for big moves. That said, I am still a bit disappointed and personally hope for a situation where Whiting/Turner/young backrower play sufficiently well enough for neither of them to be in the team, which is not indiciative of good signings.
I really hope there is still one more to come in.
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| Quote ="Standee"Lynch, O'Carrol, Martin and Aspinwall for a start.'"
So PG didn't have a say in any of those signings??
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| cant say im impressed with the last 2 signings but then again think there hands are tied to a certain extent, according to sum on here next season already a right off, for goodness sake lets give them all a chance,why oh why are sum soooooooooooooooo negative all the time, right rant over comeeeeeeeeee onnnnnnnnnnnnn uuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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| And to think the club have all over Obst in order to sign Aspinwall. Bet Obst feels great about it.
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| Way too many "glass half full" Hull fans about, all last year all we wanted was Agar to go, well he has and we have a new coach. We havn't even seen the new team play yet and already half the people are writing off the season.
Give the new coaching setup a chance, the team we have are way capable of challanging. We have a good spine to the team and now we sign someone that means we will give the youth a chance and people moan. Again all last year all we heard was why dont we give the youth a chance and we will this year.
My glass is full right now and I think we will give it a real go next year and until I have a watched a few matches next season I am not going to start saying we wont do well right now before a ball as even been kicked.
Come on you 'ullllla
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| Aspinwall a good player, puts his body on the line everytime he takes the ball up and runs very strongly like briscoe. would of kept him at the giants but he was a naughty lad
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"And to think the club have poop all over Obst in order to sign Aspinwall. Bet Obst feels great about it.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"So what's your point?
I satnd by that he should have been sacked and jailed. However I would not have then denied him a second chance to come back inot RL with another club. He would have served his time. Aspinwall has done wrong and has paid the price. Does he deserve to be continually punished, no.
Most teams have a troubled player or two.
Leeds - Bailey
Warrington - Monaghan
Wigan -Hock
Saints - Pryce (now Cats)
And most of the posters on here were gutted when Michael Crocker did not appear for the reasons we all know about
Rovers - take your pick
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Andy Hay will know how big a risk he is having worked with him last season and i;m sure Gentle has talked to him about this.'"
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| I agree with Punos! I'm gonna give everyone,players/coaches/owners a fair chance, God knows we gave Agar plenty!
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| Quote ="unknownlegend"I agree with Punos! I'm gonna give everyone,players/coaches/owners a fair chance, God knows we gave Agar plenty!'"
I don't think that is in question, everyone posting on this thread wants FC to do well and will be happy to say they were wrong if it turns out that Aspinwall and Martin et al prove them to be so, it's just a bloody big IF to some people.
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