You beat me too it Dave, thought exactly the same if weve a few promising hookers lets play them, this is how weve lost talent in the past, square pegs in round holes over young lads with talent

Houghton hasn't offered much attacking threat in his entire career

Wouldn't play either and I would instead play the NZ international there

He'll be class if played in his natural position

Cator needs a massively improved season or he can be shipped out for me. Im out of patience with our 'try hard but they're a bit small but they are Hull lads so escape criticism' section of the forwards.

So you keep saying, what do you want the club to do?

Basically what I've been saying for ages

When was the last time I saw cator make a impact in attack ?

Genuinely can't remember him breaking the line

Gets brushed off in defence by bigger forwards ( the mcqueen running through him end of last season )

Showed me I'm not sure if he's good enough for super league

Er sign one



We've had plenty of time since Clifford left

But what if there wasnt one good enough for the salary? Last thing we want is another quota player who isnt quite right stuck there on a long deal. Also its clear the club is signing younger players, so that would have ruled out someone like Moylan.

Age is irrelevant if they still got it

Likes of Jason Smith and Ellis were towards end of their careers when they signed

Didn't stop them becoming all time legends

Moylan will be a class above even at 32

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gzm ... are-mobile Interesting interview with Carlos. Get the feeling he won't be captain next season

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gzm ... are-mobile Interesting interview with Carlos. Get the feeling he won't be captain next season

Sounds like he doesn't want the responsibility and wants to concentrate getting fit and playing which is understandable.

The problem is there doesn't seem to be many natural leaders in the team. A problem we've had since Ellis retired.

I’ve read the article a couple of times now and seem to get the impression that Cator isn’t necessarily seen as the replacement 9 more that he’s training there as an option. Sounds like he isn’t the only one of the squad that are training for a couple of positions/rolls.
Feel it’s more a case of making sure that if we suffer injuries we have players and systems in place that mean we aren’t as disrupted as we have been before. It’s also possibly another way to up the competition for places and performances having players across the squad that are able/capable of taking anyone place in the 17 if they don’t perform.

Bearing in mind Trueman won’t have a pre season and likely miss the start of the season, we haven’t got an out and out 7 to replace Clifford it’s likely Brown will be in the halves with Hoy or Smith to start. This would leave us relying on Balmforth to be the interchange 9 which would be a lot of pressure on him and the team. Once Trueman fit we may see Trueman/Brown as the preferred partnership or Trueman/Hoy with Brown as the first choice 9.

Of course I maybe be completely wrong but do feel it’s more a case of covering the bases more than Cator being seen a regular for playing 9.

There you go, talking sense again. You’re going to make all the doubters paranoid

Apart from Clune, who we apparently tried to sign, there hasn't been any available, the club can't just magic someone.

We could have maybe gone for someone like Wakeman, but the club rightly decided to sign a current international who can play 7 or 9.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... ue-4446600 Okunbor interview in YEP

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... ue-4446600 Okunbor interview in YEP

The journalist didn't waste much time mentioning the scandal!

Ex Rovers reporter

That’s how I read it as well but didn’t stop the wannabe coaches and know it alls getting their knickers in a twist.Be interesting to see how Cator goes this season as he may have needed last season to get his confidence back after 2horrific injuries,same with Carlos but some people don’t see it,if he doesn’t improve then yes he can go.People want some players out who are still under contract..how do we pay them off.Answers on a postcard.

I personaly agree, but the club are going for a strategy of younger signings. Also there is no chance of a signing of the quality of Jason Smith from the NRL anymore the wage gap is too high.

And our most sucessful halves this century have either been young (Cooke, Horne, Brough) or signed youngish on a long deal (Sneyd) every old halfback on a shorter deal has been a waste of time Long, Gale, Reynolds...

Correct

Mitch out still until March April, with him out and Mcintosh missing a chunk of pre season, maybe Martin gets his chance early part of the season.

A couple of reserves out long term too, in Wainhouse and Armstrong

Maybe okunbor will play on the wing at the start of the season? Mentions in the YEP article he's been training at wing and centre as well as SR

Maybe look at Brown for captain, top level experience and judging by his social media looks to have a big health and fitness ethos. I'm knackered just viewing it.

Took me a minute to realise you meant Nu and not Jack

Either him or ese ese