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| Quote ="Armavinit"Guess he’s not as bad as a lot have tried to say. I was reading Wire fans reaction to Hill leaving and one fan said there pack is small as it is and will be bullied next season, if their only signing is Joe Bullock, which will mean their halves won’t be as effective.
FC’s pack haven’t been as dominant as some are trying to make out apart from the first few games, when most were fit. Then Covid hit, the training facilities were shut as some seem to forget. Cohesion and fitness suffered especially for big Chris. Sneyd’s a proven organiser and match winner and when FC are at something like full strength and have all pivots playing, they’re a match for any team in Super League. This season’s been a debacle. Let’s get it over with and hopefully the usual suspects will calm down and perhaps buy a season pass for once, at least then they’ll be justified in having a rant now and then.
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People live in the dark ages where they think a half back will change everything. In the modern day everyone has to do the job or it doesnt work. Could we do better then Sneyd probably, however he is not the problem at the club far from it.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Ive stopped this discussion, its like talking to a brick wall.
We are 11th overall for metres and in the bottom half for attacking kicks. That alone tells you we play the majority of our games in our own half. Despite tge fact he never brings oht to the table (lol) he finds himself in the top 20 for try assists year after year. He also the player that creates the space for Connor.
Absolute tripe posted on this board these days.'"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"This year Maloney, Miller, Lolohea and Widdop, last year Lolohea, Miller, Gale, Maloney, Richardson, Austin, Sezer all missed more tackles.
Drop goals have been hit and miss this season although he was joint top in SL for them last season, top in 2019, second in 2018 (despite missing half the season), fourth in 2017, second in 2016 and top in 2015 so probably the best in SL in the last six years.
The comment on goal kicking is just not true, Dave. He had that wobble in the Leigh game missing four in a row but his success rate this year is 80%. It was the same % in 2020. 2019 was 83%, 2018 was 81%, 2017 was 87%. Also worth pointing out that he's only missed seven games in three seasons.
His passing is the weakness but then you could point to weaknesses in most half backs.'"
Fair point about the goal kicking, just seemed to miss more kicks this year.
Agree though his main issue is passing, that along with running, which I'd say are two big weaknesses for a halfback. I don't think his attacking game has been that great either.
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| Errrrmmmmm, back onto the topic of “What now”, I’m going to let my direct debit for 2 passes run and run ad infinitum as a friend described it, until I snuff and they can’t get owt from my bank account Try to see some positives in my club, try not to get annoyed when I come on here and read some of the stupid and inaccurate posts, try not to be too subdued when the majority on here post there continuous negative comments over and over again hoping I’ll agree with them and try to get to as many games as possible whilst I still can. Lighten up, we’re here for a good time, not a long time and believe me, it’s over all too quick for some.
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| Pearsons programme notes sound interesting.
they are aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the squad, and are looking to improving key areas, which includes new signings.
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| ...His exact words, subtly different.
Quote but we are already aware of our strengths and weaknesses and our energy and focus is on improving in those key areas, which will include some changes to the playing squad.'"
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| Quote ="ccs"...His exact words, subtly different.
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| What do we make of Pearson words then?
Is it bluster to sell passes?
How do FC bring more players in?
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"What do we make of Pearson words then?
Is it bluster to sell passes?
How do FC bring more players in?'"
He has too, otherwise things will be the same next season.
There are only one way,,release some players on contract, for that to happen we have to pay them off or hope someone else would sign them.
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| Our league record this season when Connor, Reynolds and Sneyd all played is W7 L2
Our league record when at least one of them was injured is W1 D1 L9
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Our league record this season when Connor, Reynolds and Sneyd all played is W7 L2
Our league record when at least one of them was injured is W1 D1 L9'"
Intresting stat that, some depth would certainly help.
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| Are we really upto cap?
I do wonder I've mentioned this before, with Ratu, Ellis and Jones all never being replaced. I know contract extensions swallow some up, but I don't believe those will cover those 3 wages. I'd hazard a guess despite how much were told this is the most expensive squad we've had I believe we've room to manouver.
But wouldn't surprise me if the likes of Matongo, Johnstone and Bowden are moved on to free up more space.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Intresting stat that, some depth would certainly help.'"
Agree. Depth is a major problem. Our first choice 17 was never going to win SL but should have been good enough to challenge the top 4. Injuries to key players and we struggle badly. There simply is not enough quality outside the 17. Other clubs who have suffered from covid problems and injuries have dealt with it better than we have. As has been mentioned numerous times the cap has been mismanaged. You can't make contingency for covid but you should for injuries,
Hopefully the majority of the fans will continue to back the club and renew for next season otherwise it could be a long time before we come close to challenging for trophies again.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Agree. Depth is a major problem. Our first choice 17 was never going to win SL but should have been good enough to challenge the top 4. Injuries to key players and we struggle badly. There simply is not enough quality outside the 17. Other clubs who have suffered from covid problems and injuries have dealt with it better than we have. As has been mentioned numerous times the cap has been mismanaged. You can't make contingency for covid but you should for injuries,
Hopefully the majority of the fans will continue to back the club and renew for next season otherwise it could be a long time before we come close to challenging for trophies again.'"
Luckily our fans are very loyal and seem to forget quickly.
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| How many out of contact players would you genuinely be upset about not renewing? I reckon the deals have already been done anyway, just not announced.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Luckily our fans are very loyal and seem to forget quickly.
Need a couple of signings in key positions, these dont have to be big signings, just players to improve us, the likes of Lussick would be a start.'"
I hope you're right Dave regarding the loyalty of our fans.
If finances allow the final quota place should be used to sign a quality NRL hooker.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Luckily our fans are very loyal and seem to forget quickly.
Need a couple of signings in key positions, these dont have to be big signings, just players to improve us, the likes of Lussick would be a start.'"
Nathan Peets would improve us. Giants not retaining him I think.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Nathan Peets would improve us. Giants not retaining him I think.'"
I've only seen him in a few games, but he has impressed me.
I've been reading Beaumont's latest rant, think a few of their players might be looking for new clubs, Sidlow wouldn't be a bad signing for a year.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I've only seen him in a few games, but he has impressed me.
I've been reading Beaumont's latest rant, think a few of their players might be looking for new clubs, Sidlow wouldn't be a bad signing for a year.'"
Not seen that yet. I hope if Marwan gets involved at Leigh, someone does a fly on the wall documentary series!
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Are we really upto cap?
I do wonder I've mentioned this before, with Ratu, Ellis and Jones all never being replaced. I know contract extensions swallow some up, but I don't believe those will cover those 3 wages. I'd hazard a guess despite how much were told this is the most expensive squad we've had I believe we've room to manouver.
But wouldn't surprise me if the likes of Matongo, Johnstone and Bowden are moved on to free up more space.
All me guessing'"
I'm worried that Wynne may go just purely because we have other Full Backs, he's one of the few who actually puts a shift in and at least is a threat in broken play
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| Quote ="UllFC"I'm worried that Wynne may go just purely because we have other Full Backs, he's one of the few who actually puts a shift in and at least is a threat in broken play'"
I'm a fan of Wynne, shows fight has pace to burn. Hope we keep him, has utility value too.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I've only seen him in a few games, but he has impressed me.
I've been reading Beaumont's latest rant, think a few of their players might be looking for new clubs, Sidlow wouldn't be a bad signing for a year.'"
Sidlow signed a new deal a week or so ago
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| Need to see some turnover of players to keep passes ticking over or else people will think they're signing up for more of the same. Think most want to see a new 1st choice hooker and a prop.
Personally want to see a new number 7, it's OK having a 7 that can get you upto the opponents line but he needs to be able to get you over it.
As for creating the cap space and quotas for this, I'd look at offering fonua to other clubs on a free transfer as long as they pay his wage, same with Houghton, Johnstone, masi, bowden and even scott
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| Quote ="dandaman"Need to see some turnover of players to keep passes ticking over or else people will think they're signing up for more of the same. Think most want to see a new 1st choice hooker and a prop.
Personally want to see a new number 7, it's OK having a 7 that can get you upto the opponents line but he needs to be able to get you over it.
As for creating the cap space and quotas for this, I'd look at offering fonua to other clubs on a free transfer as long as they pay his wage, same with Houghton, Johnstone, masi, bowden and even scott'"
Who do you replace them with?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Who do you replace them with?'"
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