Not unlucky, unjust. Latus scored the try directly where Martin would have been in the line, so that means we were at an unfair disadvantage. And also, what if say Briscoe caught an intercept and was blocked by
Martin and the team of medical staff?

If we stopped the game for every 'injury' we would end up like football with players going down like Drogba. It was not a head injury so the game rightly continued. The injury was just bad luck as no one was near him when he went down . If he had gone down with cramp would you stop the game. NO.

Unlikely that a stretcher would be on for cramp. Although eventually not used the medical staff bringing on the stretcher should have been the point where the game was stopped IMO. It was bad luck but most of the time the appearance of a stretcher would likely stop the game - very few players are stretchered off in back play that I can remember.

Well, if you're turning your nose up at 'good fortune', then I assume you're not buying 'excellent discipline'? Which leaves what? Some nefarious pact with dark forces? Grassyknollatastic.

Your logic appears to have deserted you in the wake of an undeserved victory. What it leaves is a deliberate policy by Ganson to penalise only one side - something he has previous with.

we never seem to get the 50/50 calls, but we cant do nowt now, lets get 2 points against saints

Not so, a pass is demed forward in relation to the player making the pass and not the flight of the ball and please don't even mention Stevo's (non)momentum rule.



A decision can be made on offside simply because the field and players' feet are on the same plane, something that doesn't happen with the flight of a ball in motion. The only reason that technologies like "Hawkeye" can be used in sports like cricket, tennis and potentially soccer is because the "targets" (goal, wicket or tramline) are a constant and fixed entity. I suppose there might be a case made for such decision to be considered when games are in 3D but would still doubt we have the technology available to ensure little better than the lottery that currently exists.

It was a terrible decision, I have never defended it and nor would I ever attempt to but the available technologies we currently enjoy would bring little, if any benefit for the cost involved. It was a bad decision that is ultimately down to Ganson and Ganson alone, it's not something he can hide from and nor should either he or Stuart Cummings. As I said before, I don't think it will go unquestioned and would expect serious answers to those questions. One reason the Oz refs make the phone call that Gentle spoke of, is to draw a line under the incident and then everyone can move on without fear of future repercussions or any subliminal attempt to "even things up"

Agree offside is completely different to the balls kinetic energy when passed from an advancing attacker however the technology would not be that complicated. The same kind of maths plonks the team logos on the pitch as if the were painted there.

If you track the balls speed forward for the few seconds before the pass then track the catch distance over the time lapsed it's basic maths to tell if it has travelled faster than when carried.

I would agree most of the time, but there are occassions when even TV is adequate to pick up a forward pass. Why would it be a problem to ask the video ref to have a look. If he can't tell then fair enough, the decision remains with on field officials. The point is that we all want to eradicate, as far is possible, the obviously wrong decisions from the game. The fifty fity calls we hope will even themselves out over the season and are part of the game.

bitter bitter bitter bitter get over it you lost because your fastest player couldnt catch super leagues slowest player

Did Blake Green even play??

Yeah got a 40/20 how many did hull kick

not bitter , regardless of the blantant forward pass hull still should have defended that lead, but it does stick in the gullitt when decisions like that go against you,

I [ithink[/i (but obviously don't know because it's someone else) that the point MMJ is making is if it is a case like last night where the receiving player actually catches the ball in front of where the passing player is [iat the time the ball is caught[/i, not where he passed the ball from. The only way that could ever not be a forward pass is if the passing player, after throwing the ball, then either stops stone dead from running, or runs back towards his own line at a pace faster than the ball is travelling backwards. I'd be interested if there are any physicists on here who can tell us if this is even possible.

I can see how a TV replay can prove a forward pass in those scenarios, but I would, however, say that you can't go to the screen for those instances and not other forward passes IMO, it wouldn't be right.

You're at it again!
Has he been seeing your missus or something?

It was more a joke comment regarding the slowest player, not how good he performed!! Not that he was spectacular!!

Oh...don't quit the day job.

Whiting was suspended

The physio was on pretty quickly and gave the "no" signal straight away, followed by a second member of the med team coming on and then the stretcher, all before the try was anywhere near scored.

All water under the bridge now, but I'd have hoped that a ref or TJ would have seen that, realised the potential seriousness of the injury and stopped play.

Of course, the lack of comments/complaints next time a rovers player gets injured and play isn't stopped and a try is scored will be recorded for posterity...

Whilst i feel for you being on the end of a decision that cost you a try, try to also realise we was on the end of two bad decisions that gave you two tries....
Before someone asks for clarification as to which ones..
1...dobson sin binning.....should never have been...penalty at most
2...goal line drop out given against rovers when in fact it should have been a pen or 20metre restart... (pen for the push in the back on shannon which in turn pushed him onto the ball)
both instances lead to tries in the very next sets...

And whilst you are all going on about the poor decision for the forward pass try you are neglecting the these bad calls that went your way...

that being said.... that call is not what lost the game, not defending the lead out ,poor discipline and bad decision making is what lost the game...

If he had to be pushed onto the ball surely he was obstructing it

no you are allowed to shield etc if travelling in the same direction....
tries are chalked off for pushing the opponent away from the ball... as has been seen many times, end of the day shannon never played the ball... the push in the back pushed him into making contact... which is why it was a bad decision, however that one came and went upstairs and even they said goal line drop out.... like all choices and decisions made during the game right or wrong, they are consigned to the history books now..

going by the bilge they came up with yesterday I would say it's a comfortable two pointer for FC





i'd pee myself if Ganson was appointed for the Saints game

According to Jon Wells's summing up, he played well for both Hull clubs

When did you sign Wellens?