Why is it so many FC fans can see what is missing from our game, yet nobody at the club has done anything about it for about 5 years?!?!?!

Guys, I have all the answers to our hooker problems...

Richard Whiting



Have we played him there yet?

I personally think if we can bring in some cover at hooker then Berro would be better off in the centres. I have not always thought that but when he played there at the backend of the season you immediately saw his class and had Reece been more experienced then Berro would have put him in for tries. We have not had that at centre for a while so would like to see him there over a number of games.

That said I am not totally convinced about Washy at hooker so if we don't get any cover for hooker then Berro should probably play there with either Whiting/Turner at centre. The problem is from anattacking perspective in the centres they both do a solid job rather than a good one. Ideally Rovelli would have been good, covering 6,7, and 9 and allowing Berro to play centre.

Berrigan showed enough class to make this a debate for me but ultimately it would depend on how Washy went at hooker and that is something we can only guess at. Maybe have a look at him during the friendlies?

i'm still hoping we can bring rovelli in.

But in his first season (200icon_cool.gif with a poor team he looked a class player, setting up trys, scoring and making breaks.

I don't buy this playing in poor team a player of his class should be still showing how good a player he is, in a poor team, look at Rangi Chase last season in an average Cas team. Holdsworth at Salford is another example.

The odd times he has looked a cut above his teammates, but not very often (certainly not often enough).

I can see what you are saying about moving positions though, hopefully we will aloow him to settle in one position next year, be it centre or hooker and we will see him getting back to his 2008 form.

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Spot on

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I don't get it? Yeaman isn't slow.

I've only seen Chase and Holdsworth in a handful of games and highlights every week (as I suspect most non Cas and Salford fans do), and IMO they are excellent in flashes and anonymous at others. They are not showstopping for 80 minutes as the weakness of the teams around them don't enable them to be. Pretty much like Berrigan, then.

Yeah but he is a local lad so tends to come in for stick regardless. He should have left Hul when his last contract came up and gone to Saints, Leeds, Wigan or Wire, they would all have wanted him and he could have shown what can do.

He just comes in for stick off people who go on radio reports and dont see him in the flesh.

You notice a big difference when Yeaman ISNT playing.

Yes, Paul - that's the only reason I don't rate him. I just hate any player born in Hull.

Well I suppose it's [ipossible[/i that he's just had an off day almost every time I've seen him since he debuted. Doesn't seem very likely though.


Indeed. Possibly not in the way that you mean, mind.

I said that? I never actually meant you specifically Kosh, the thing is there is a tendency these days to knock Yeaman and like Baldy said when he doesn't play we miss him. He has faults in his game yes but still does a good job on limited service.

IMO his faults outweigh his strengths ATM - and for the last several seasons. We miss him because we lack options at centre rather than because of his quality per se. The service thing is a slight Red Herring as well IMO as he fails to make the best of what service he does get and almost aggressively fails to back up breaks.

Anyway - I didn't intend to turn this into any kind of attack or even critique of Yeaman. I'm sure there'll be plenty of opportunities to discuss his performances next season.

Slow of foot on one side, slow of thought on the other.

Each to their own opinion but we missed him in the Rovers game badly imo. He and Berrigan would provide a very good centre pairing. As I said he has faults but we very rarely give him the ball in any kind of space. His support play is his worst attribute but other than that he does a good job.

Nice back track.

Maybe you'd like to list his faults.

I've already said I didn't want to make this a thread about Yeaman's shortcomings, but since you asked...

Doesn't back up.
Not alert to opportunities.
Rarely puts his winger away.
Not fast enough.
Not tall enough.
Doesn't have good hands.
Rarely creates opportunities himself.
Shoots out of the line for a big hit and misses a little too often for me.
Can drift out of games.

On the flip side...

Can run some good lines.
Difficult to put down.
Deadly on the end of a short pass near the try line.
Generally sound defence with the exception noted above.

I actually like Yeaman. He comes across as a good lad who is very dedicated to/passionate about the club, and has some good facets to his game if used correctly. I just don't think that he is, or will ever be, a top class centre.

Well you must have had a limited veiwing of him....yes he has faults and will never bea Barnett snr but he isnt as bad as what you make him out to be......he will never be a creative centre...he isnt built for that,he is a crash centre and a bloody good one as well "IF" he gets the service...something he hasnt had since Cooke legged it......like most things in our team..we dont play to his strengths.

May be a waste of time typing this as your opinion counts and you seem to dismiss others.

Possibly you could point me to where I've 'dismissed' anyone's opinion of Yeaman, or presented my views on him as anything other than my opinion?

I agree that he's a good 'crash centre'. I also agree that we don't play to his strengths. That still leaves too many shortcomings IMO. Centres should be more than just short-range threats on the end of a crash ball - that's what second-row forwards are for.