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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If all were fit, some difficult decisions about who plays where IMO.
Richard Horne is in good form, either 1 or 6
Berro is class, best at 9.
Houghton an out and out 9, MOM yesterday
Lee also in good form, 9 or 13 for me
Washy doing OK at 6, better at 13
Tony probably back v Wire, best at 1
Thorman not delivering, should be dropped IMO
So, with no genuine 7 who's to play there? Should Horne stay at FB even if Tony's fit? Of all that lot, I think Berro's the nearest to a SH we've got - definitely looks better at 9 but we've got the cover there.'" Or get the cheque book out for a S/H.With Huddersfield chasing Danny Brough we may see some movement of players.Imo i would go for Luke Robinson for the short term because it would be better than we have now,and we have nothing to lose.You never know it may work out. 
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Or get the cheque book out for a S/H.With Huddersfield chasing Danny Brough we may see some movement of players.Imo i would go for Luke Robinson for the short term because it would be better than we have now,and we have nothing to lose.You never know it may work out.
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If one of us wins the Euromillions... pay off the majority shareholder, say to Agar "here's a few million quid, go buy the players you want" and ensure he gets Myler from Salford as one of them.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"I know he's a rare talent, we're the same at Rovers, should Dobson get injured long term we have no current answer at the club. You did have Thackery who was sent packing, people used to speak highly of him, and although I obviously didn't see that much of him I do remember him having an outstanding game at Wakefield on Sky a while back.
Thorman though is in the comfort zone, he knows he has little pressure on his place in the team without switching around the rest of the teams structure to compensate, same as Dobson, but Dobson performs, and performs well, Thorman on the other hand......'"
I don't think Thorman lacks effort, I just think he's completely useless!
Thackaray had a couple of good games, but has ended up in the championship, can't say I was fussed that he left to be honest.
as for Myler I think we were rumored to have tried to buy him last season, but Salford were having none of it
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| Quote ="Cardiff_05"I don't think Thackeray had enough to be a Super League player.'"
Maybe, as said I didn't see that much of him. With Thorman getting a one year deal, of which I think I'm right in saying, a better option would have been a player I did see plenty of in James Webster and although he is limited in some areas of his game, he would have brought you a better kicking game than Thorman and even more improtantly, his best strength of all in his organisation skills.
Getting rid of Webster was one of Agars biggest mistakes.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Maybe, as said I didn't see that much of him. With Thorman getting a one year deal, of which I think I'm right in saying, a better option would have been a player I did see plenty of in James Webster and although he is limited in some areas of his game, he would have brought you a better kicking game than Thorman and even more improtantly, his best strength of all in his organisation skills.
Getting rid of Webster was one of Agars biggest mistakes.'"
True, though i'm sure he expected more of an impact from Thorman.
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| Quote ="Cardiff_05"True, though i'm sure he expected more of an impact from Thorman.'"
which he did in te 1st 5 games evrybody was loving him ..me included
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| Quote ="Cardiff_05"If one of us wins the Euromillions... pay off the majority shareholder, say to Agar "here's a few million quid, go buy the players you want" and ensure he gets Myler from Salford as one of them.'"  Agree with you there.If life and Hull were that simple.I would love Hull to go for Myler but cannot see it happening.
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| No doubt it´ll be
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Or get the cheque book out for a S/H.With Huddersfield chasing Danny Brough we may see some movement of players.Imo i would go for Luke Robinson for the short term because it would be better than we have now,and we have nothing to lose.You never know it may work out.
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I think Hudds are in for Brough for his kicking game as Robinsons isn't that good, Brown was very good kicking wise yesterday.
Robinson is very good at organising his runners, something we lack big style, but still doesn't offer us that great kick.
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| Whoever the pivots are we MUST have a creative ball playing 13, not what we are playing with at the moment (nothing against Radders).
I'd like to see one of Washy, Lee or Berro at 13 (the latter would be great)
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"Whoever the pivots are we MUST have a creative ball playing 13, not what we are playing with at the moment (nothing against Radders).
I'd like to see one of Washy, Lee or Berro at 13 (the latter would be great)'"
Thats what he said when he arrived that he wanted to end up at LF
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"I think Hudds are in for Brough for his kicking game as Robinsons isn't that good, Brown was very good kicking wise yesterday.
Robinson is very good at organising his runners, something we lack big style, but still doesn't offer us that great kick.'"
And here is the solution. BUY BOTH OF THEM !!!!! I suggested this on another thread and got slated by some. lol bless them lol The key here may be One or Both of our overseas visa blocked signings getting turned down again. That may be blessing in disguise
I remember getting slated for saying put Rich Horne full back too as he's potentially best full back in the counrty and he's been rock solid at the back and starting to get into joining the line in attack too now and he ain't played there for 6 years. Once Raynor back our kick returns will be great and horne will get more opportunities closer to centre of pitch when raynor receives ball from kicks as he gets to middle, drags in extra defenders and has great offloads for horne to exploit.
Agree about general disappointment over Thorman. Brings nothing visible to the team so he must sure talk a damn good game in the other 166 hours 50 minutes they aren't actually playing a match every week.
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| I'm struggling to comprehend those comments suggesting Whiting should be moved from the centre spot. I think long term he's a loose forward, but at the moment he's the best centre at the club. It's no coincidence that our right hand side has looked more solid in defence and more potent in attack since Whiting has been playing in the centre. Whilst we're as short of options as we are, he must stay there.
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Next bus back to Huddersfield) Thorman
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm struggling to comprehend those comments suggesting Whiting should be moved from the centre spot. I think long term he's a loose forward, but at the moment he's the best centre at the club. It's no coincidence that our right hand side has looked more solid in defence and more potent in attack since Whiting has been playing in the centre. Whilst we're as short of options as we are, he must stay there.
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Next bus back to Huddersfield) Thorman'"
Surely replacing Whiting with Berrigan who has played centre at a higher level than SL and moving Whiting to LF isn't that difficult to understand ? I agree that Whiting has done well and fully expected him to do so but he will do as well or better at LF. Why is LF long term for him ? He's 24 already.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Surely replacing Whiting with Berrigan who has played centre at a higher level than SL and moving Whiting to LF isn't that difficult to understand ? I agree that Whiting has done well and fully expected him to do so but he will do as well or better at LF. Why is LF long term for him ? He's 24 already.'"
The words are easy to understand because they're English but the logic is a bit hazy.
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| Quote ="downtheante"The words are easy to understand because they're English but the logic is a bit hazy.'"
Fair enough it's an opinion. After yesterday Thorman needs dropping and it's a way of getting all our better players on the pitch in the same team at his expense. Maybe Berrigan would offer even more of a threat than Whiting in the centre and maybe even form a better partnership with Calderwood than Whiting has ? Just a thought. Don't beat yourself up if you don't understand the reasoning.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Fair enough it's an opinion. After yesterday Thorman needs dropping and it's a way of getting all our better players on the pitch in the same team at his expense. Maybe Berrigan would offer even more of a threat than Whiting in the centre and maybe even form a better partnership with Calderwood than Whiting has ? Just a thought. Don't beat yourself up if you don't understand the reasoning.'"
Thorman didn't set the world alight but he wasn't as bad as people are suggesting. He only kicked twice to hand if I remember right (one of those was in the in-goal area) and placed some other great kicks. When he goes for a break there's never anyone on his shoulder and I can't remember him missing a tackle (might have to watch the game again to check that). So, he hasn't been great yet but he gets us around the park. Remember, if he had our full back-line around him, instead of all the stand-ins, he'd have more options from the backs. I'm not a massive supporter of Thorman but I think he gets a lot of undue stick.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Thorman didn't set the world alight but he wasn't as bad as people are suggesting. He only kicked twice to hand if I remember right (one of those was in the in-goal area) and placed some other great kicks. When he goes for a break there's never anyone on his shoulder and I can't remember him missing a tackle (might have to watch the game again to check that). So, he hasn't been great yet but he gets us around the park. Remember, if he had our full back-line around him, instead of all the stand-ins, he'd have more options from the backs. I'm not a massive supporter of Thorman but I think he gets a lot of undue stick.'"
I have stuck up for him all season but have to say yesterday was enough for me. Thought he did very little. Our kick tries were created by Washbrook (2) and Horne. For me Thorman doesn't impose himself on the game enough and at crucial times his kicking is just not up to it. He played really well away at Bradford and I've defended him on the back of that but in the end doesn't do it often enough. At times especially in defence he also seems to not go the extra yard in effort terms for the team as well. Just occasionally he offers up some pretty half hearted stuff.
FWIW I think Agar will stick with him as you argue but not good enough often enough would be my description of his season to date.
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| I think Thorman gets the brunt of three years of frustration of not having a decent and consistant scrum half
I stil think he needs replacing at the end of the season but he's not doing too much of a bad job
I wasnt too confident before going into the game with cas so to come out with the 2 points is fantastic - Its a step in the right direction and with some quality players coming back into the team there should be more optimism amongst the fans !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"I think Hudds are in for Brough for his kicking game as Robinsons isn't that good, Brown was very good kicking wise yesterday.
Robinson is very good at organising his runners, something we lack big style, but still doesn't offer us that great kick.'"
i know but his fan club is a bit of all right 
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| Quote ="downtheante"Thorman didn't set the world alight but he wasn't as bad as people are suggesting.'"
Yes he was.
Quote ="downtheante"He only kicked twice to hand if I remember right (one of those was in the in-goal area) and placed some other great kicks. When he goes for a break there's never anyone on his shoulder and I can't remember him missing a tackle (might have to watch the game again to check that).'"
The game you watched seems to have been completely different to the one I did. And I have already watched it back from the recording - if anything, Thorman looks worse on second viewing.
Quote ="downtheante"So, he hasn't been great yet but he gets us around the park.'"
Nope. It was Lee, Washbrook, Houghton, and Horne who got us around the park yesterday. Similar to the last few weeks in fact.
Quote ="downtheante"I'm not a massive supporter of Thorman but I think he gets a lot of undue stick.'"
I've never been that impressed by him, but tried to give him a fair crack of the whip. Sadly he has not failed to disappoint me. He is cack.
And I don't often say that about a player, either.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm struggling to comprehend those comments suggesting Whiting should be moved from the centre spot. I think long term he's a loose forward, but at the moment he's the best centre at the club. It's no coincidence that our right hand side has looked more solid in defence and more potent in attack since Whiting has been playing in the centre. Whilst we're as short of options as we are, he must stay there.
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Next bus back to Huddersfield) Thorman'"
Pretty much agree with all that. Whiting/Calderwood look a decent combination and would be madness to move him now. There is a question as to whether the other centre should be Yeamo or G Horne though once Raynor gets back. I like the line-up you've got there and that would be what I'd go for, only question would be whether to swap Tony and Horne for me.
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| thorman is terrible. Other than a half decent (not as good as some are suggesting) performance against bradford he has been poor all season. Also, he's getting worse, not better. His much lauded kicking game has been worse than average and his decision making with ball in hand is shocking for someone of his age and experience. I've never rated him and was glad when we missed out on him the other 2 times we tried to sign him. Personally, I'd rather we gave berrigan a go in the halves with R Horne, washy to loose man and motu back in the FB spot
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"thorman is terrible. Other than a half decent (not as good as some are suggesting) performance against bradford he has been poor all season. Also, he's getting worse, not better. His much lauded kicking game has been worse than average and his decision making with ball in hand is shocking for someone of his age and experience. I've never rated him and was glad when we missed out on him the other 2 times we tried to sign him. Personally, I'd rather we gave berrigan a go in the halves with R Horne, washy to loose man and motu back in the FB spot'"
I actually wonder if his 'good' game against Bradford was more due to the fact that Bradford were so slow that afternoon they made Thorman look like Usain Bolt!
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| Quote ="downtheante"Thorman didn't set the world alight but he wasn't as bad as people are suggesting. He only kicked twice to hand if I remember right (one of those was in the in-goal area) and placed some other great kicks. When he goes for a break there's never anyone on his shoulder and I can't remember him missing a tackle (might have to watch the game again to check that). So, he hasn't been great yet but he gets us around the park. Remember, if he had our full back-line around him, instead of all the stand-ins, he'd have more options from the backs. I'm not a massive supporter of Thorman but I think he gets a lot of undue stick.'"
The problem with Thorman is that he is asked to do a job that he cant, he never has or never will be a 7 in my opinion. He isnt really a decison maker or play maker, he dosnt give as any real direction and his long range kicking game is pretty poor, yet this is what hes asked to do. I remember him being very effective when he was at London and Huddersfield, but he was always used as more of a second reciver rather then first, and when he came up with something it was usually when he ran at the line, or made an assist or forced a repeat set with his short range kicking game.
I think we have two players in the squad who would be better suited to the role that Thorman plays in Horne and Berrigan, I also think Thorman could have a positive impact on the side in a different role, but at the moment hes not.
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