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| Quote ="bonaire"yes i do
three and a half months of pre season with Smith what has he done?'"
What have the players done in last 3 or 4 years ......
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| Quote ="bonaire"yes i do
three and a half months of pre season with Smith what has he done?'"
Did you honestley think he could change the fortunes of this side ? Did you really think that ?
I mean he hasnt being perfect but to blame smith for these points youve posted is bonkers. Im not a huge Smith fan never wanted him but the points youve posted have gone on here for years. The players arent interested and the sooner they are removed from the club the better.
This is a squad of core players who registered 13 losses in a row, 9 in a row and now 7 in a row. The problem at this club isnt the coaches its the players, the Hull mafia. Smith is one of the most successful coaches in the British game, now it might not work out here but to suggest he is clueless and to blame for where this club has ended up is quite frankly bullcrap.
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| Concede a try and we implode. Really playing with no confidence or motivation. Worrying.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Who would you replace him with and how long would you give the new head coach?'"
The problem is Hodgson was given time by Pearson.His downfall was his less than poor recruitment but the club kept him on too long.
We have a similar situation now with Smith who no doubt has been given the time he needs to turn the club around and so he doesnt have the pressure on him from the top like a new coach would normally have.
All i can say is i believe that just about any coach from the Championship could not be any worse than what we have seen from Smith and probably would have a lot more passion and desire to succeed without the golden pass that Smith seems to have
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Did you honestley think he could change the fortunes of this side ? Did you really think that ?
I mean he hasnt being perfect but to blame smith for these points youve posted is bonkers. Im not a huge Smith fan never wanted him but the points youve posted have gone on here for years. The players arent interested and the sooner they are removed from the club the better.
This is a squad of core players who registered 13 losses in a row, 9 in a row and now 7 in a row. The problem at this club isnt the coaches its the players, the Hull mafia. Smith is one of the most successful coaches in the British game, now it might not work out here but to suggest he is clueless and to blame for where this club has ended up is quite frankly bullcrap.'"
Is it bull crap to keep playing lovodua at six, McNamara at seven and McIntosh on the wing when it clearly isnt working .
As i have said before and maybe you in your wisdom can tell us all
What has Smith done to the team Pre Season?
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| As defensive coach Ellis needs to go aswell. Conceding 30 every week.
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| Why bring Dwyer on but keep Houghton out there ffs
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| Quote ="Hasbag"As defensive coach Ellis needs to go aswell. Conceding 30 every week.'"
We don't have a 'defence' coach, its Smith who has introduced this new system. Ellis is just one of the coaches, there are no specialists at the club
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| Quote ="Hasbag"As defensive coach Ellis needs to go aswell. Conceding 30 every week.'"
We don't have a 'defence' coach, its Smith who has introduced this new system. Ellis is just one of the coaches, there are no specialists at the club
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| The performance again is totally unacceptable and less than professional but I believe Smith deserves time just like Powell got last season at Warrington.
We don't know behind the scenes what adversity Smith is dealing with and how that would influence selection.
Let him clear the decks and give him next season to be fully assessed.
The players are a far bigger issue than Smith.
No commitment, passion or pride in the shirt.
They're the ones first for me that can fook off before another coach.
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| We are becoming a laughing stock.
Season is a write off and can't see where the next win will come from.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"The performance again is totally unacceptable and less than professional but I believe Smith deserves time just like Powell got last season at Warrington.
We don't know behind the scenes what adversity Smith is dealing with and how that would influence selection.
Let him clear the decks and give him next season to be fully assessed.
The players are a far bigger issue than Smith.
No commitment, passion or pride in the shirt.
They're the ones first for me that can fook off before another coach.'"
But Warrington didnt have the massive blowouts like we are having when Powell came in.
They also scored points which we cant do.
To think we can emulate what Warrington have done this season is just pie in the sky and wishful thinking
We have to find double the amount of players that Powell added to his squad and i dont think the club have the pulling power to bring in quality players any more
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| Where's Keith?
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| Quote ="bonaire"But Warrington didnt have the massive blowouts like we are having when Powell came in.
They also scored points which we cant do.
To think we can emulate what Warrington have done this season is just pie in the sky and wishful thinking
We have to find double the amount of players that Powell added to his squad and i dont think the club have the pulling power to bring in quality players any more'"
All I am saying is let's have some patience.
We don't need another knee jerk reaction.
Let's ship out the underperforming couldn't give a players and give Smith a fair chance.
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| Quote ="bonaire"But Warrington didnt have the massive blowouts like we are having when Powell came in.
They also scored points which we cant do.
To think we can emulate what Warrington have done this season is just pie in the sky and wishful thinking
We have to find double the amount of players that Powell added to his squad and i dont think the club have the pulling power to bring in quality players any more'"
Genuine question. I'm not being sarcastic or critical of your post but what do you think the answer is?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Is it bull crap to keep playing lovodua at six, McNamara at seven and McIntosh on the wing when it clearly isnt working .
As i have said before and maybe you in your wisdom can tell us all
What has Smith done to the team Pre Season?'"
Hang on a minute, you slate Smith for tinkering then slate him from continuity. Who would you have played at 7 and 6 tonight ? Who would you have played on the wing ? He had very little choice as the squad is so imbalanced.
You blame smith for pre season but again i dont know why you would expect him to change the fortunes of a group of players who have being do poor for 4 years. 11 of this team tonight played for Radford, that is horrendous recruitment from the club.
Smith isnt a miracle worker.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Where's Keith?'"
I’m here having returned from another winning game at Craven Park. I see FC have improved tonight. Scored some points and kept Rhinos below 40. The turnaround has started.
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| Off load 15 of the 20
It’s as simple as that
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| Loads of Rovers supporters tonight around me were feeling sorry for you but I'm having none of that.
Tonight Rovers had 3 quite outstanding players, Abdull, Lewis and Litten who you decided weren't good enough for you, all now in the England squad.
You only have yourselves to blame.
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| HDMail - Tony Smith
“ if you can see someone not trying then please show me “
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| Not sure Smith has a clue how to get us out of this mess, which is a real worry.
I wouldn't be bothered we released any player from the main squad or if Smith quit right now.
Just can't see another win, Wakey and Cas are rubbish, but they have some fight at least.
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| It's time for the 9 match Barometer prediction TF. Will we finish 11th?
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| Even blind Freddie can see where we are 9th is the guide to where we finish give or take 1 spot up and down !
Unless there is a momentous paradigm shift such as Wakey had when they hired John Kear
I still have to question Smiths definition of
Trying
I haven’t seen the tries yet but I will list the lack of effort and it will take a lot of finger tapping !!
Come on Tony - please don’t treat us stupid !
Of course they’re not trying as hard as they can FFS we are a utter embarrassment
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Even blind Freddie can see where we are 9th is the guide to where we finish give or take 1 spot up and down !
Unless there is a momentous paradigm shift such as Wakey had when they hired John Kear
I still have to question Smiths definition of
Trying
I haven’t seen the tries yet but I will list the lack of effort and it will take a lot of finger tapping !!
Come on Tony - please don’t treat us stupid !
Of course they’re not trying as hard as they can FFS we are a utter embarrassment'"
It's not that they aren't trying, many of them are just not good enough and last night that included both halves and the hooker so little wonder we are where we are.
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| Watch all the tries Leeds scored and see if defensively they tried hard enough ?
Watch the whole match and watch the small things - winning the ruck, supporting the ball runner , chasing kicks etc etc
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