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| Quote ="UllFC"Hull Live reporting that Turkish Media are reporting that the TV Tycoon's takeover of Hull City is in the final stages and he wants to come and tour the MKM and training ground.
Cross your fingers everyone!'"
Assuming it happens, how do you know it will be good news for FC?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Assuming it happens, how do you know it will be good news for FC?'"
And why do you think it might not be.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"And why do you think it might not be.'"
Like everyone else I have absolutely no idea. I just wondered why the poster was so confident things would be better for FC. Being dependent on a landlord always has potential difficulties. A good one can sell to one not so good and vice versa.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Assuming it happens, how do you know it will be good news for FC?'"
Because I can't see how anything can get worse, we are already receiving a minimal service from our Landlords that I suspect is the minimum allowed in the contract. I'm working on a things can only get better basis!
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| My friend is working at a house opposite Reynolds, he said he is going home for his rehab so that sounds positive that he is back next year
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| Quote ="bonaire"We need two big mobile front rows.Hodgson has said we need one but i think two are necessary.
Bowden will be on his way out and Taylor we have lost now to injury two seasons in a row.
Last season played only 11 games
This season is worse only eight league games and one cup match.
Out of the eight league games he started only four with the other four off the bench.
my opinion is he is finished as a top front row.
If we can find two big experienced forwards then we have a pack that can compete with most teams.
Reynolds is another doubt due to past injuries and whether he goes another season will depend on how bad this current injury is but he has intimated his possible retirement.
The less said about Sneyd the better.We have a non running,erratic passer of a ball who can kick goals but cant tackle so my concern is at halfback because we are stuck with Sneyd but could lose Reynolds.'"
Sneyd is a match winner end of. Who has had to play behind an ineffective go forward for the past two years and slow PTB which limit his options and kicking.
I dont get why people cant see that, they just blame Sneyd. Look at how slow our PTB is and the poor distribution that follows it.
It amazes me that people berate the only guy on the team that actually knows how to win a game gets the stick he does.
My main issue is watching our forwards strive for an extra two metres only to be pushed on there back. In the modern day you try to pierce the line or get to the ground as quick as possible. Thats our problem, too many puddings trying to run over people. Only Satae has that ability.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Hull Live reporting that Turkish Media are reporting that the TV Tycoon's takeover of Hull City is in the final stages and he wants to come and tour the MKM and training ground.
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I doubt this guy has the money to invest in the club with a nett worth of $100 million USD
In any case Allam will move the goal posts as usual when he unveils the new EFL loan on the books and the 5 million he wants for the SMC
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Sneyd is a match winner end of. Who has had to play behind an ineffective go forward for the past two years and slow PTB which limit his options and kicking.
I dont get why people cant see that, they just blame Sneyd. Look at how slow our PTB is and the poor distribution that follows it.
It amazes me that people berate the only guy on the team that actually knows how to win a game gets the stick he does.
My main issue is watching our forwards strive for an extra two metres only to be pushed on there back. In the modern day you try to pierce the line or get to the ground as quick as possible. Thats our problem, too many puddings trying to run over people. Only Satae has that ability.'"
Might help if he learnt how to tackle
the game was lost against Leeds conceding two tries as a result of Sneyds poor efforts to tackle the runner
His options are not limited due to our ineffective go forward .He has only one option and its a kick.
No doubt you will find an excuse to cover his defensive liability
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| Quote ="bonaire"Might help if he learnt how to tackle
the game was lost against Leeds conceding two tries as a result of Sneyds poor efforts to tackle the runner
His options are not limited due to our ineffective go forward .He has only one option and its a kick.
No doubt you will find an excuse to cover his defensive liability'"
Not at all, its not his strong point but you dont buy a half for defensive abilities. So you dont think our slow PTB and our distribution are effecting his game ? The game also wasnt lost because of his defence against Leeds. He tried changing the momentum a few times with some long drop outs and deep kicks. Our inability to keep our disclepline and win the wrestle cost us. Was a ticking timebomb tgat defeat.
When we get the above our halfs always get the ball to Connor in space. As it stands now our threats are shut down hence why we have to use the inside ball. Josh Reynolds a former state or origin half is also struggling under the same conditions. I fail to see what a different half back can do given the time and space he has to play with.
I tell you now, he will be the most marked man on our team.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Not at all, its not his strong point but you dont buy a half for defensive abilities. So you dont think our slow PTB and our distribution are effecting his game ? The game also wasnt lost because of his defence against Leeds. He tried changing the momentum a few times with some long drop outs and deep kicks. Our inability to keep our disclepline and win the wrestle cost us. Was a ticking timebomb tgat defeat.
When we get the above our halfs always get the ball to Connor in space. As it stands now our threats are shut down hence why we have to use the inside ball. Josh Reynolds a former state or origin half is also struggling under the same conditions. I fail to see what a different half back can do given the time and space he has to play with.
I tell you now, he will be the most marked man on our team.'"
What are his stong points?
As it certainty isnt running or passing.
His long kicking isnt great either and his short kicking is very inconsistent, we score a ot of trys from his cross field bomb, but that's because it's our main tactic and we go it so often it will come off, also without Connor it wouldn't work nearly as much.
He is great if you are winning by a score with 5 minutes or need a drop goal to win ( although not this season)
He has been poor for 3 seasons now, what other halfback in SL doesn't score a try or set up a try with a pass,?
There has been plenty of games this season where our pack has done its job, only to be let down by our creative players.
Sneyd isnt our only problem but certainly a big one with his form the past few season.
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| Quote ="Dave K."What are his stong points?
As it certainty isnt running or passing.
His long kicking isnt great either and his short kicking is very inconsistent, we score a ot of trys from his cross field bomb, but that's because it's our main tactic and we go it so often it will come off, also without Connor it wouldn't work nearly as much.
He is great if you are winning by a score with 5 minutes or need a drop goal to win ( although not this season)
He has been poor for 3 seasons now, what other halfback in SL doesn't score a try or set up a try with a pass,?
There has been plenty of games this season where our pack has done its job, only to be let down by our creative players.
Sneyd isnt our only problem but certainly a big one with his form the past few season.'"
I agree with this. For a half not to score a try shows he doesn't run at the line. His kicking assists will get decent numbers, but that is due to how Connor can attack the ball and leap more so than a fantastic kick.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I agree with this. For a half not to score a try shows he doesn't run at the line. His kicking assists will get decent numbers, but that is due to how Connor can attack the ball and leap more so than a fantastic kick.'"
Cant argue with the fact he doesn't take on the line enough, however, to suggest that it is more down to Connor than Sneyds placement is laughable. Connor can't catch the ball if it isn't in the right place in the first instance.
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| Quote ="Dave K."What are his stong points?
As it certainty isnt running or passing.
His long kicking isnt great either and his short kicking is very inconsistent, we score a ot of trys from his cross field bomb, but that's because it's our main tactic and we go it so often it will come off, also without Connor it wouldn't work nearly as much.
He is great if you are winning by a score with 5 minutes or need a drop goal to win ( although not this season)
He has been poor for 3 seasons now, what other halfback in SL doesn't score a try or set up a try with a pass,?
There has been plenty of games this season where our pack has done its job, only to be let down by our creative players.
Sneyd isnt our only problem but certainly a big one with his form the past few season.'"
Who do you think creates the space for Connor to play in. Our pack has done its job ? My grandparents can play the ball quicker. Sneyd is an organiser, not a creative half and is long range kicking will always be hard against a beaten pack. Look at the metres made this year and then tell me this pack has done its job.
Hes not perfect but he is not the problem, there is about 10 players if not more I would get rid of. You cant slate him either for playing to his strengths either. I couldnt care less if he kicks or passes, he is creating opportunities and he isnt the problem. Anyone who thinks replacing him would change this team are seriousley uneducated about Rugby League and I dont care how long youve watched for.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Who do you think creates the space for Connor to play in. Our pack has done its job ? My grandparents can play the ball quicker. Sneyd is an organiser, not a creative half and is long range kicking will always be hard against a beaten pack. Look at the metres made this year and then tell me this pack has done its job.
Hes not perfect but he is not the problem, there is about 10 players if not more I would get rid of. You cant slate him either for playing to his strengths either. I couldnt care less if he kicks or passes, he is creating opportunities and he isnt the problem. Anyone who thinks replacing him would change this team are seriousley uneducated about Rugby League and I dont care how long youve watched for.'"
Name another half in SL who job is to organise, every other half in the league can either put a player through a gap, make breaks or both.
Sneyds passing is rubbish, put another half who could pass at 7 and Connor would be even better, but Connor in Saints or Catalans he would get even more space as he would be playing with halfbacks who can pass.
Leeds at home we dominate the first half, but create nothing, Wigam in the cup we totally dominate, but rely on barge over trys. plenty of games we have dominated and the pivots including Sneyd have failed to perform.
You cant carry a halfback that cant run, tackle or pass.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Who do you think creates the space for Connor to play in. Our pack has done its job ? My grandparents can play the ball quicker. Sneyd is an organiser, not a creative half and is long range kicking will always be hard against a beaten pack. Look at the metres made this year and then tell me this pack has done its job.
Hes not perfect but he is not the problem, there is about 10 players if not more I would get rid of. You cant slate him either for playing to his strengths either. I couldnt care less if he kicks or passes, he is creating opportunities and he isnt the problem. Anyone who thinks replacing him would change this team are seriousley uneducated about Rugby League and I dont care how long youve watched for.'"
I would ask where this new 7 is coming from? And also one who doesn't miss tackles? Scrum half's have and will always be targeted by the big guys, half backs are only any good if the forwards are laying the platform and giving them time to operate. Drinkwater is a prime example at kr behind a weak pack at the time had little to contribute now back behind Catalans dominant huge forwards he looks a totally different player.
And if I may add Danny Brough 3 tries 2 drop goals- Kevin Harkin 19 tries- Peter Stirling 9 tries - Marc Sneyd 19 tries 35 dg's
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Who do you think creates the space for Connor to play in. Our pack has done its job ? My grandparents can play the ball quicker. Sneyd is an organiser, not a creative half and is long range kicking will always be hard against a beaten pack. Look at the metres made this year and then tell me this pack has done its job.
Hes not perfect but he is not the problem, there is about 10 players if not more I would get rid of. You cant slate him either for playing to his strengths either. I couldnt care less if he kicks or passes, he is creating opportunities and he isnt the problem. Anyone who thinks replacing him would change this team are seriousley uneducated about Rugby League and I dont care how long youve watched for.'" Sneyd is the whipping boy at hull. It's plain to see he isn't our main problem. But that's all you here. We do love a whipping boy
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| I expect us to sign a big name player, probably an aussie and a couple more fringers then expect the supporters will be reignited and all throw the money at the club to buy season tickets - our owner and third rate coach will say were aiming high, biggest spend blah blah blah....... Its a well tried formula that FC fans lap up, the season will start well then will fall apart with a decent run in the challenge cup that nobody gives two flucks about. Then that will repeat and so on and so on.............
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| Everyone getting d tonight then?
It’s far from doom and gloom, not sure what a luxury player is, need a couple of big lads and some luck with injury/covid and we’re relatively sorted. Not quite sure on Hodgson yet but the squad seemed happy and up for the graft before the wheels fell well and truly off the season. Sneyd has got a lot of stick on here of late but get him behind a dominant pack and the sun still shines from his arris.
As for the club, I’ve not had a season pass for three years with working away and then covid running me in to the ground (subby engineer). I have a lot of clients in Hull and in their offices the story seems to be the same; build it and they will come. I’m probably of the same thinking where if covid is relatively quiet and Hull look serious about going for some silverware I’ll be getting a pass even if I can’t make it to all the games.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Sneyd is the whipping boy at hull. It's plain to see he isn't our main problem. But that's all you here. We do love a whipping boy'"
He is a whipping boy, plenty of other players have been criticized this season, Teyjokds, Fonua, Reynolds and some fringe players like Bowden and Scott.
7 is such an important position and he has not performed well enough the last 3 years, we arent taking about a few games, we are talking about 60 plus in which he has played well in only a handful.
People keep saying he is good enough, but never back it up with anything.
As mentioned there has been plenty of times our pack has put us in the position but Sneyd and the pivots havent been good enough and relied on a bomb or Connor.
What does Sneyd bring to the team?
What other halfback in the league cant make a break or put a player through the gap, where is his short passing game, why cant he do a cut out pass like other halfbacks.
His defemce is awful,ok halfbacks arent known for defence, but is there another halfback who misses one on one tackles as much as Sneyd.
His kicking including goal kicking and certainly drop goals has been very inconsistent.
So at the moment, what does Sneyd bring to the team.
I think we are stuck with him for next season, so he has to improve or he should not be in the 13.
We certainly have other problems but IMO our main issues has been creativity and that comes down to the 1, 6, 7 and 9.
Some fans just cant seem to find fault with Sneyd.
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| Quote ="Dave K."His defemce is awful,ok halfbacks arent known for defence, but is there another halfback who misses one on one tackles as much as Sneyd.'"
Far be it from me to stick up for Sneyd, I think he's been awful to but going off super league stats these halfbacks have missed more tackles.
Maloney 76
Miller 73
Lolohea 55
H Smith 54
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Sneyd is 19th on the list with 48 & the 10th best half back for assists with 13 compared to Connors 21.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
His defemce is awful,ok halfbacks arent known for defence, but is there another halfback who misses one on one tackles as much as Sneyd.
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This year Maloney, Miller, Lolohea and Widdop, last year Lolohea, Miller, Gale, Maloney, Richardson, Austin, Sezer all missed more tackles.
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His kicking including goal kicking and certainly drop goals has been very inconsistent.
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Drop goals have been hit and miss this season although he was joint top in SL for them last season, top in 2019, second in 2018 (despite missing half the season), fourth in 2017, second in 2016 and top in 2015 so probably the best in SL in the last six years.
The comment on goal kicking is just not true, Dave. He had that wobble in the Leigh game missing four in a row but his success rate this year is 80%. It was the same % in 2020. 2019 was 83%, 2018 was 81%, 2017 was 87%. Also worth pointing out that he's only missed seven games in three seasons.
His passing is the weakness but then you could point to weaknesses in most half backs.
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| Quote ="Dave K."He is a whipping boy, plenty of other players have been criticized this season, Teyjokds, Fonua, Reynolds and some fringe players like Bowden and Scott.
7 is such an important position and he has not performed well enough the last 3 years, we arent taking about a few games, we are talking about 60 plus in which he has played well in only a handful.
People keep saying he is good enough, but never back it up with anything.
As mentioned there has been plenty of times our pack has put us in the position but Sneyd and the pivots havent been good enough and relied on a bomb or Connor.
What does Sneyd bring to the team?
What other halfback in the league cant make a break or put a player through the gap, where is his short passing game, why cant he do a cut out pass like other halfbacks.
His defemce is awful,ok halfbacks arent known for defence, but is there another halfback who misses one on one tackles as much as Sneyd.
His kicking including goal kicking and certainly drop goals has been very inconsistent.
So at the moment, what does Sneyd bring to the team.
I think we are stuck with him for next season, so he has to improve or he should not be in the 13.
We certainly have other problems but IMO our main issues has been creativity and that comes down to the 1, 6, 7 and 9.
Some fans just cant seem to find fault with Sneyd.'"
Ive stopped this discussion, its like talking to a brick wall.
We are 11th overall for metres and in the bottom half for attacking kicks. That alone tells you we play the majority of our games in our own half. Despite tge fact he never brings oht to the table (lol) he finds himself in the top 20 for try assists year after year. He also the player that creates the space for Connor.
Absolute tripe posted on this board these days.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"This year Maloney, Miller, Lolohea and Widdop, last year Lolohea, Miller, Gale, Maloney, Richardson, Austin, Sezer all missed more tackles.
Drop goals have been hit and miss this season although he was joint top in SL for them last season, top in 2019, second in 2018 (despite missing half the season), fourth in 2017, second in 2016 and top in 2015 so probably the best in SL in the last six years.
The comment on goal kicking is just not true, Dave. He had that wobble in the Leigh game missing four in a row but his success rate this year is 80%. It was the same % in 2020. 2019 was 83%, 2018 was 81%, 2017 was 87%. Also worth pointing out that he's only missed seven games in three seasons.
His passing is the weakness but then you could point to weaknesses in most half backs.'"
Guess he’s not as bad as a lot have tried to say. I was reading Wire fans reaction to Hill leaving and one fan said there pack is small as it is and will be bullied next season, if their only signing is Joe Bullock, which will mean their halves won’t be as effective.
FC’s pack haven’t been as dominant as some are trying to make out apart from the first few games, when most were fit. Then Covid hit, the training facilities were shut as some seem to forget. Cohesion and fitness suffered especially for big Chris. Sneyd’s a proven organiser and match winner and when FC are at something like full strength and have all pivots playing, they’re a match for any team in Super League. This season’s been a debacle. Let’s get it over with and hopefully the usual suspects will calm down and perhaps buy a season pass for once, at least then they’ll be justified in having a rant now and then.
I’m off to watch the game shortly and will no doubt be drowning my sorrows in the pub afterwards
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