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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"good player but MOS? big dave taylor, wire's half backs and 2 or 3 from our side in front of him at least IMO.
Like I said, what's he done of note?'"
Bateman n Houghton by lots for me
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Ran a great line before fluffing the pass to Mini.
I'll forgive him, some awesome hits yet again tonight.'"
The 'shoulder charge ' annoyed the shiz out of me how can it be a shoulder charge with inside of shoulder. Would of been a key area and time to get possession
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Bateman n Houghton by lots for me'"
each to their own. bateman a good player in an average team for me but he is a sky favourite so gets talked up IMO. jamie shaul has been far more influential than bateman on the season so far
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"each to their own. bateman a good player in an average team for me but he is a sky favourite so gets talked up IMO. jamie shaul has been far more influential than bateman on the season so far'"
So as Ellis, he doesn't just make a tackle, he hits hard that along with his leadership must make him a contender, we are a much better side with his presence.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"each to their own. bateman a good player in an average team for me but he is a sky favourite so gets talked up IMO. jamie shaul has been far more influential than bateman on the season so far'"
Bateman is unreal. Nowt on him. Yet he's a monster to put down. Scores loads. Offloads loads. Breaks loads. Tackles loads. Misses little. Freak of a player
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Bateman is unreal. Nowt on him. Yet he's a monster to put down. Scores loads. Offloads loads. Breaks loads. Tackles loads. Misses little. Freak of a player'"
You'll be telling me he does all the little things well next. Like I say, good player but he isn't in the top 5 standout players this season so far for me. Anyway, MOS will be decided in the final few weeks of the season, not now
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| Long way to go but if he keeps up his current form will be in the mix.
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| Only 55 tackles last night, needs to up his efforts
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| While for me DH has really come of age this season, his workload and tackling are now being backed up by his reading of the game and his passing is far more accurate. He is a true contender, however for me Gareth Ellis is just on another level, especially when you consider he has no right to even be playing the game after the Achilles injury he sustained. I don't think I've ever seen anyone hit so hard, and it's not once or twice a game, it's shot after shot. It's like he's on a mission. His leadership, for me is pivotal to our success, as he rallies the troops with passion and leads by example in both his physical condition and the way he plays the game.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You'll be telling me he does all the little things well next. Like I say, good player but he isn't in the top 5 standout players this season so far for me. Anyway, MOS will be decided in the final few weeks of the season, not now'"
Not like you to post for effect...
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| Quote ="spegs"Not like you to post for effect...'"
Indeed, if you keep posting that you might get right eventually
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"each to their own. bateman a good player in an average team for me but he is a sky favourite so gets talked up IMO. jamie shaul has been far more influential than bateman on the season so far'"
Typical tinted glasses on here, you are comparing a player you see week in week out against a player you see mainly on sky!
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| Quote ="thepimp007"Typical tinted glasses on here, you are comparing a player you see week in week out against a player you see mainly on sky!'"
Bit of a strange argument. I bet Hull fans have Bateman play more than Wigan fans have seen Shaul, given that Wigan are on Sky every other week.
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| Quote ="thepimp007"Typical tinted glasses on here, you are comparing a player you see week in week out against a player you see mainly on sky!'"
I try not to watch games when wigan are on as they're dull as ditchwater to watch. bateman's a quality player but in that wigan team I don't see how anyone can be named man of steel. "Man of boring rugby every week" maybe? Or "Man of can't win if the ref doesn't let you cheat"?
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| Ellis for me. On a totally different level and as has been well documented in the past, his mere presence raises the performance of those around him. Plus he goes round dishing out bangs like they're going out of business! Inspirational guy and a pleasure to see lead us into battle!
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| Quote ="Airlie1984"Ellis for me. On a totally different level and as has been well documented in the past, his mere presence raises the performance of those around him. Plus he goes round dishing out bangs like they're going out of business! Inspirational guy and a pleasure to see lead us into battle!'"
If he stays fit and continues the way he's been playing then he's definitely a contender. Like you say it's a pleasure to watch him play.
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| IMO still one of the best second row forwards in sl
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| I wouldn't swap Ellis for any other second rower in the league. Can't help but admire the guy. For me he's the linchpin to our current form, a bit like the any form we've had in the past couple of years except now there's quality around him too! He demands that his team match his level and he leads by example too. Can you imagine him playing for us in his pomp?!? Jesus!!
Actually he's inspiring me so much at the moment I nearly got his name on the back of my shirt earlier (until I found out it was £15 a go and there was a Snapback cap I quite liked)
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You'll be telling me he does all the little things well next. Like I say, good player but he isn't in the top 5 standout players this season so far for me. Anyway, MOS will be decided in the final few weeks of the season, not now'"
He's literally the difference between us being 5th and languishing where Leeds are. He is a 22 year old that has single handedly won us about 5 or 6 games this year.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"He's literally the difference between us being 5th and languishing where Leeds are. He is a 22 year old that has single handedly won us about 5 or 6 games this year.'"
Bateman is an outstanding player and will only get better. I think you'll have a job keeping him as NRL clubs will be keen to sign him.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"He's literally the difference between us being 5th and languishing where Leeds are. He is a 22 year old that has single handedly won us about 5 or 6 games this year.'"
Probably so but he's not MOS contender if wigan stay in 5th place. maybe if you win the comp and he's instrumental in it
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Probably so but he's not MOS contender if wigan stay in 5th place. maybe if you win the comp and he's instrumental in it'"
going back quite a few years but adrian vowles won man of steel and Cas finished in 5th that year (1999)
and daryl clark won it when cas finished in 4th, but generally yes the man of steel is given to a player whose team finishes in the top 2
the main exception features cas again - rangi chase in 2011 when cas finished 9th
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| been through the MOS awards since the superleague began in 1996. of the 20 awards given out only 6 have been given to players whose team finished outside of the top 2. the breakdown is (positions in regular season)
1st 11 awards
2nd 3 awards
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so it helps to finish in the top 2, preferrably 1. i know this excludes the playoffs where a lower placed team can have a good run but the regular season provides the bulk of the games and is a fair barometer of player of the season
as a slight aside, we have provided the young player of the year of 4 occasions. only wigan with 6 beat this, and for today's quiz without looking it up can you name the 4?
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| Quote ="the artist"
as a slight aside, we have provided the young player of the year of 4 occasions. only wigan with 6 beat this, and for today's quiz without looking it up can you name the 4?'"
Richard Whiting
Richard Horne?
Ben Crooks?
Danny Houghton?
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| Quote ="scarrie"Richard Whiting
Richard Horne?
Ben Crooks?
Danny Houghton?'"
3 out of 4. houghton is incorrect
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