I'd heard of both of them. I never said they were world class signings: as you suggested we were as good as Wigan, I asked who you thought our equivalent players are. You didn't answer. I don't think we have a pair of comparable players. Yet. What Richards and Carmont both are, whether you class them as journeymen or not, are cabable and experienced players who add strength, solidity and an attacking edge. Fringe players at top NRL clubs? Probably. Because NRL > SL.

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Yeaman, on his current form, wouldn't get into Wigans back line. Briscoe has the potential to be better than any of the Wigan three-quarters. If he stays at Hull I hope his potential is realised. If he went to Wigan I'm sure his potential would be realised. He'd certainly see more of the ball than he does at the moment; and in attacking positions, not being used first-up in the middle of the field.

We had, we went for him in 2006 i think

When he had his steven segal hairstyle

I think you're mistaken, people were delighted we won the derby but I don't recall anyone (except yourself, the Expro and one or two others) getting carried away that we were an excellent side all of a sudden. '"

but there are many also that post on here that are like you and I BB, the likes of those that dont follow the piper and shout agar out at the slightest issue and we do not jump in and slander everyone from the top downwards daily..
Professional sport is about ups and downs, I for one am glad that we are in the hands of a ownership that does not want to chop and change the coaching staff anymore and are willing to stand by a british coach who is as we stand heading for our first playoff match for a wee while..
well said BB although i doubt the piper and his rats will agree

So you admit that players at wigan are performing to a higher % of their ability than players at Hull, which is exactly my point. Yeaman and Briscoe have the ability to be in the starting 13 of any side in SL. The fact that they currently wouldn't be isn't down to their ability, it's down to coaching and style of play.

If richards and carmont were in our side they wouldn't look as good as they do in wigan's.

so now were not only knocking the players and coaching set up themselves but now showing via RL Fans just how crap we are in your opinion when compared to other teams ??
you love your club huh!!

How do you think they would have gone on Friday night if they'd been playing for us instead of wigan?

Do you think richards would have scored a hat trick stood on our left wing?

Let's have a mature response instead of the usual childish ones

On the one hand you say the majority of fans would would not like to see Agar replaced and this will be proven by the season ticket sales for next season, on the other you say that to the majority of fans it's not that important whether we win anything or not and they'll renew regardless... which is it?

top 4 is a sucess
5-7 acceptble
8 n lower not good enough
we will prob get beat by leeds in play off

like if we had found touch and scored following that .. its all pie in the sky what ifs designed to back up your lack of knowledge of the game generally, and as for maturity, you need to read some of your own posts son!!

cant argue with you there however I feel we have something to offer when we get the lads back on the island again !!
when we have true halves on we always look better , and Shaun Long is certainly a man for big televised matches thats for sure...
I feel we could just upset a few feathers in the play offs

Cheers dad, judging by the inane ramblings you post, I presume alzheimers has kicked in. If you let me know which care hom you're in I'll pop in when I'm passing

Briscoe I'll give you. Yeaman? No way.

Yeaman looked quality the last time our 3/4's had any kind of service. No reason to suggest he's any worse a player now than he was then

Yeaman is great at scoring tries from close range when on the end of a killer pass, or using his strength to barge over. He is sadly lacking in just about every other aspect of attacking centre play.

He's no worse than ryan atkins who is holding down a centre spot at warrington

No. I didn't. They're better players. Currently. Tom Briscoe has the potential to be even better.



Quite possibly. I don't know the how/why/where but the inherent talent of our incomers does, somehow, seem to be diminished once they pull on the irregular hoops.

Conversely, Richards and Carmont could quite easily look even better in our side . .

So you think all of our players are playing to their full potential then? or do you believe the wigan players aren't reaching their potential?

Sorry but you are so wide of the mark, RA is one of our most gifted young players with a whole armoury to his aid!! great feet, very strong, fast top passing skils and a show in for GB or England at present where as Kirk is sadly as Kosh said quite rightly

again your not wrong!! he is as has been said so many times not the player he was prior to his injury at Saints some time ago , when he got his international cal he looked ready to step straight into Seniors boots but if anything he has gone backwards,
He is solid, a good clubman but never ever going to be a Senior , King or Atkins ..

kirk is sadly what?

Being let down by the inferior game plans adopted by our increasingly worsening coaches?

Sick of standing around waiting for someone to give him a decent pass?


You should start sending apples in for the mods, it would be easier tahn sucking up to them every time they post

you are a stalker arent you, can you just argue with me on one thread instead of derailing every thread whenever you see a post by me.
give over your embarassing yourself now

Says the man who just asked if I was on my period

stalker

Briscoe could be a super centre however he has forged an FC & GB career as a wingman so cant see that changing in the near future can you?
but agree that any player could easily look beter playing for us , all we need is the halves to farm the ball out in their direction and things will change !!