seems a bit childish mate - don't throw in the towel in just yet !

I think Leeds are very beatable. The thing that struck me was the lack of quality on the bench yesterday. Their pack is mediocre without Peacock. I think us and Leeds could be pretty close throughout the season.

I thought there was few shocking VR decisions that went against Bradford!

To be fair we had Clarkson, Bailey, Huaraki and Peacock out of the pack.

We are not alone.

I mentioned Peacock and yes Clarkson and Hauraki would improve you but are either likely to be playing on Friday? I don't think Bailey brings much to the table at all really.

Bailey steady's the defence and has a good offloading game. Also factoring in that Sinfield is playing stand-off meaning we are a second row short as Ablett is filing in. The biggest difference is with a full pack our bench is much stronger with potentially,

Lauatiti
Cross
Huaraki
Burgess

That's with Bailey, Clarkson, Kirke and Pitts missing out completely. The gap left by Sinfeild and the injuries at present has meant the bench certainly is very weak atm.

Any of those forwards back for Friday night, or is it the same squad from yesterday?

At Cardiff, Leeds didn't look anything like as good as they have in recent seasons (but then who did other than Hudds and Crusaders?). It was a travesty that they won. I honestly believe that if we pick our game up we have a good chance.

I'm a great admirer of Fitz and he did some good things yesterday but he needs to take more responsibility for the team as captain. He shouldn't have let himself get pulled into that punch-up (the team were never the same after that), and he should have laid the law down and got some of the players to pull their socks up - why did they never form a scrum to stop the clock? Why did we give away daft penalties? He should have sorted that on the pitch.

Bailey and Clarkson possibly, we are still awaiting new on Huarki's Visa so if it comes by this week he will play.

What does your wife think about your decision, Andy? Or is it Richard?

We've not beaten them since September 2007, that's seven successive defeats.

I hope the fans who can be bothered to go get behind the team.

Bl00dy hell, thought it couldn't get much more depressing.

I'll be there, mind.

The last Hull FC team to beat Leeds included Shaun Briscoe, Hall, Raynor, Head, King, Lee, Carvell, Godwin, Graeme Horne and Wheeldon

And wasnt Sharp coach...he seemed to have the hold over Leeds

Oh ! I'll be there though, fancy our chances I'll be honest

Just because 1 kn0b has stated on here that he aint going and his 4 yr old has more brains than him....(4 yrs old...must have done the deed when we was on that unbeaten run and he wasnt using his sock). isnt going...dont tar us all with the same brush...id love to see Agar go but until/if ever it happens il be there.

Yup, we played them five times under Sharp and won four times - twice at Headingley.

Didn't mean to.

"The night it rained beer"

Are they as determined as they were last season before we played wigan at home when you told us they were gunning for revenge after we were hammered at the JJB or maybe as determined as they were to avenge the defeat against crusaders?

FWIW I think Leeds are there to be beaten too

I think so. maguire has been the major difference between the 2 teams in recent years and he isn't playing. We need to defend much better though if we are to win

isnt Peacock and bailey out too??

burrow always tears us apart on a regular basis.....saying that though, there entire second row showed us a lesson in th cc last year...ablett etc included