Loose Forward is without doubt a critic flaw in our game. Did anyone notice that twice whiting moved into that position for a play in the line in the second half and both times he put players through holes!! We need three pivots, and it is no coincidence that when Washy came back we started winning again, and since he was injured we have stopped. He was playing 6 but Horrne was acting as a pivot from full back and we were mixing it up a bit! Coaching is ppoor in my estimation!

Good post Wilf.
Whiting did the same against saints last week IIRC.
Need to mix it up against salford.
I would put G.Horne to centre,Berrigan to 7 and Whiting at LF.

Can't possibily say

Was a genuine question

I'm not stirring

Agree

Sounds good. Or at least better.

Been saying Whiting to LF for 5 weeks. It does beggar belief that our coach cannot change things around and try summat different he should have put Hall in the centre when he could weeks ago and Whiting to LF. 10 losses in 12 suggests the current structure doesn't work.

If he does change it, he'll have to admit that he's been wrong all this time. Why the fook are we playing radders at 13, Jesus Agar you're a joke

Lets face it Radford is finished, he turns hi back into tackles so never has a chance of getting a quick ptb. He is arguably our worst player right now.

maybe he's trying to copy steve price!!!

I have said it before,he couldn`t motivate my dog to go out for a walk.
He stands with his hands on his hips behind the posts,instead of kicking ass.He winds me up t.b.h.
(end of Rommell mode.)

Clever trick that, does the dog manage to pi$$ up against the post at the same time?

or pi$$ over the bar

I agree Paul. In the past I've defended him on here but I think he certainly needs to be shown the door, I don't think it's lack of effort or anything like that I think it's just a case of his best days are well behind him.

Way too simplistic and coincidental.

I would put Thorman, R. Horne and Thackray, in that position before Radford at the moment, Hornes play the ball is so slow even when he manages to win the floor is pathetic. Thorman has been discussed previously and Thacks is returning to his old ways of being the penalty machine.
King is just going through the motions when he gets on, so I would put Radders about 5th worst along with a few others.
just my opinion of course.

When you look at the most successful teams in the SL era what have they all got in common.?

Saints
6) Pryce / Martin
7) Long
9 ) Cunningham
13) Sculthorpe

Leeds

6) McGuire
7) Burrows
9) Diskin
13) Sinfield

Bradford much the same though they have gone off the boil without Pryce.
They have Deacan and had Mcnamara plus other quality 13s and also Newton.

Pivitol positions for which they have stability.

This is my only fear with us signing Long. If we sit back for two years we will not get that dynasty that Leeds and Saints have.

We need to settle with stability in these pivitol positions.

The same could also be said of Full back. Saints have Wellens whilst Leeds have always signed quality FB.

It is not rocket science why they have all won the silverware in the past 14 years.

I'd still try Berrigan in the right centre if not at 7.

he's been atrocious for over a year now, even his fans are struggling to see his 'unnoticed work'

I see it, im just fed up of telling the people that dont!!

Never rated him, he was made to look good in that massive Bradford pack!

No you don't. You might think you do. You might want to so much that you convince yourself you do. Unfortunately, though, you don't. You can't. It doesn't exist.

In 2006 and 2007, he did get through a lot of work, much of it good quality work. Even at the start of last year, he wasn't too bad. He has dropped off remarkably though and, along with playing much less, the quality of his play whilst he is on is much worse than it was. He's always had a tendency to turn his back into tackles to attempt to gain an extra couple of yards at the expense of a quick play and an extra 5+ yards on the next phase, but for the past two years, this is what he's done on nearly every hit-up. Defending, he gets caught flat-footed going into tackles and frequently loses the collision and gets out of position at marker. This often results in easy ground made out of dummy half or a penalty given away. To try to combat losing the tackle, he will also get caught putting in really poor quality work on the ground, again resulting in stupid, unnecessary penalties. His ball control is poor, with him coming up with too many errors, both through losing the ball or from throwing stupid offloads. He also has far too much involvement as an extra pair of hands. It's predictable (basically, every time it's not obvious he's taking a drive in, he's going to throw a deep wedge ball out the back to Thorman or Horne), the quality of the passing is poor in terms of both speed and accuracy, and it doesn't achieve anything with every defender in the league expecting it, meaning they neither get caught out positionally, nor do they use up any energy attempting to tackle Radford.

It's unfortunate for him, but he's gone as a player. And as a captain, he's never been anywhere near.

you took the words out of my mouth i said exsactly the same thing, waste of space

Glad you agree.