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| Quote ="Standee"pass the smelling salts........'"
As I said: people said the same things about James Graham and the Burgess brothers.
Graham is now considered one of best props in the NRL and reached a grand final in his first year nearly playing near 70 minutes a game. Briscoe will follow suit. Not saying he'll achieve as much as quickly, but the case will be far from "backside on a plate".
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| Quote ="BraddersFC" "backside on a plate".'"
well, we shall see, maybe.
But I was referring more to your comment that the NRL isn't that much better, it's streets ahead of SL.
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| Quote ="Standee"well, we shall see, maybe.
But I was referring more to your comment that the NRL isn't that much better, it's streets ahead of SL.'"
It is, it's much better. It's just annoying when people overestimate the gap. It's not a league full of super-humans. I'll concede that Briscoe may be out of depth in an Origin game, but he'll slot right in in the NRL.
Also, I remember watching Best in the 2003/04 seasons and he never scored the individual tries, demonstrated the elusive running qualities that Briscoe has, or ever pulled off a tackle akin to the one in the corner against Fox in the dying seconds of a game. Best had one of our best EVER centres alongside him in Richie Barnett Snr putting things on a plate for him.
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| Quote ="BraddersFC"It is, it's much better. It's just annoying when people overestimate the gap. It's not a league full of super-humans. I'll concede that Briscoe may be out of depth in an Origin game, but he'll slot right in in the NRL.
Also, I remember watching Best in the 2003/04 seasons and he never scored the individual tries, demonstrated the elusive running qualities that Briscoe has, or ever pulled off a tackle akin to the one in the corner against Fox in the dying seconds of a game. Best had one of our best EVER centres alongside him in Richie Barnett Snr putting things on a plate for him.'"
I disagree, totally, but that's what this place is about.
I hope Briscoe has a great season for FC, if he moves on after that, good luck to him, but I wont care if he succeeds or fails.
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| TB is the best defensively IMO, and will get even better.
Raynor on fire was the best attacking in my opinion, but all round Best takes some beating.
Having said that in 5 years when TB comes back to FC from Oz, he will be better than all 3 put together.
And he will come back as surely FC can negotiate first refusal? Or maybe not if his contract ends? I would like to think TB might do that for us either way?
To many questions for a first post I've confused myself.....
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"TB is the best defensively IMO, and will get even better.
Raynor on fire was the best attacking in my opinion, but all round Best takes some beating.
Having said that in 5 years when TB comes back to FC from Oz, he will be better than all 3 put together.
And he will come back as surely FC can negotiate first refusal? Or maybe not if his contract ends? I would like to think TB might do that for us either way?
To many questions for a first post I've confused myself.....
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No, there'll be no first refusal for Hull should Briscoe go to Australia.
On the original point, I'd agree with the majority, Colin has been the Best winger in the SL era at Hull FC.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"
And he will come back as surely FC can negotiate first refusal? Or maybe not if his contract ends? I would like to think TB might do that for us either way?
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Iestyn Harris & Gareth Ellis for starters
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Agree 100% and would say Raynor was better as well.'"
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| He is a good winger, with moments of class, but they are not consistent enough to be compared to Colin Best at the moment.
You could watch any match back from when Best was here (barring London at home in his 2nd match) and he did something that made you say 'wow'
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| Briscoe is good and some of the stuff he pulls off is incredible but Colin Best is ahead of him. Hands like dinner plates...
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| Listening to Humberside sport this morning I thought Gollum sounds in a good mood, I wonder if Pop Larvins money has gone through. Then he announced Tom is set to sign for Cronulla
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| Was big fan of Raynor, and Best was obviously quality, but I see Tom Briscoe as real quality as well. Strong, fast, powerful running and defending, and the ability to make something out of nothing. And he's still only 22. I feel he would go down well in the NRL and I wish him all the success he deserves.
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| Raynor was a fantastic player for us, particularly as he was just an unknown from Leeds reserves when we signed him.
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| I think there are some with Very Rose tinted glasses here for Colin best. CB had the advantage of having Centres who would pass him the ball and halves who could release our 3/4 line. With e exception of London away, griffin park, best never created anything for himself.
As for the poster who is waiting for Briscoe to trump Bests tries I suggest you look at the footage of the away games at Cas for the last two seasons, the away game at wakey in 2011. The Salford home game of 2011 and the leeds game of 2012. That's not taking into account the breaks he makes from absolutely nothing.
Briscoe is strong and fast. best and raynor didn't have his strength and hence, despite their high work rate, they never looked like breaking the line.
Now throw in that Briscoes centre rarely passes and there have been not real halves to speak of, I'd say TB is way ahead in most aspects of the game
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"=#BF0000TB is the best defensively IMO, and will get even better.
Raynor on fire was the best attacking in my opinion, but all round Best takes some beating.
Having said that in 5 years when TB comes back to FC from Oz, he will be better than all 3 put together.
And he will come back as surely FC can negotiate first refusal? Or maybe not if his contract ends? I would like to think TB might do that for us either way?
To many questions for a first post I've confused myself.....
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the kid can't catch... His NRL career will be over in 2 years at best. Either that or he'll be playing for the team regularly in the bottom 2..
Personally I'm glad that we haven't allocated a huge chunk of our cap on a winger and a vastly overrated winger at that!!
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the kid can't catch... His NRL career will be over in 2 years at best. Either that or he'll be playing for the team regularly in the bottom 2..
Personally I'm glad that we haven't allocated a huge chunk of our cap on a winger and a vastly overrated winger at that!!'"
I agree, he is a good solid player but it would not warrant silly money to keep him.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I think there are some with Very Rose tinted glasses here for Colin best. CB had the advantage of having Centres who would pass him the ball and halves who could release our 3/4 line. With e exception of London away, griffin park, best never created anything for himself.
As for the poster who is waiting for Briscoe to trump Bests tries I suggest you look at the footage of the away games at Cas for the last two seasons, the away game at wakey in 2011. The Salford home game of 2011 and the leeds game of 2012. That's not taking into account the breaks he makes from absolutely nothing.
Briscoe is strong and fast. best and raynor didn't have his strength and hence, despite their high work rate, they never looked like breaking the line.
Now throw in that Briscoes centre rarely passes and there have been not real halves to speak of, I'd say TB is way ahead in most aspects of the game'"
Totally agree with all this. Loved Best n Raynor but Briscoe can do everything they could n more!
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| Colin Best for me.
As for Raynor and Briscoe, that would be very close and I'm not sure who I'd choose.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"I agree, he is a good solid player but it would not warrant silly money to keep him.'"
Agreed. Step up to the plate Tom Lineham.
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| Has he turned hulls offer down?
Just reading a few comments on fb.
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| Quote ="shauney"Agreed. Step up to the plate [uTom Lineham[/u.'"
Exciting prospect without a doubt.
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| Gutted is Tom goes. Another step back for the squad, once again we can't keep our best players. We'll never win silverware all the time this happens.
Good luck to him, not happy about it though and in all honesty I think it's too soon for him.
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| Best for me. Raynor edges it second with Briscoe third.
Briscoe is quality and will be missed but I agree throwing fortune at him would of been a mistake given our short coming in other areas.
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