Fair point. I maybe wrong but aint Saints let Scott Moore go to Hudds for development and Matty Smith to Celtic along with Clough and these players will return to Saints better for it

You've totally missed it haven't you? now go back and re-read what he said and re-read my response. The stats didn't back him up like he thought they would, 'let the stats speak for themselves' I didn't say that they were correct or that they gave a true reflection.

I also agree, he has been hyped up beyond belief by some fans because he can skoot from the PTB. He doesn't seem to have improved or added anything to his game since he first came into the team, in fact I'd say he has gone backwards.

Bit harsh for me that, his distribution looks like it has got a lot better but he struggles with his size for me defensively. He is targetted which is why he tops the tackle counts but he never wins the collision. Tommy Lee on the other hand can really tackle and forces spilled ball regularly due to his bigger physical presence. Guess it comes with a couple more years development.

I've not really been a fan of Lee at hooker in the past, I always thought that he would be a better back rower, well, after Hull destroyed him as a halfback anyway. Now I feel that he has the right attitude and would actually keep him in the side: the first time I think I have said that since he started regularly appearing tin the 17