Just looking at pictures of salford and saints new grounds they are both coming along nicely and very quickly. I know NM has been put on the back burner lately but it will be the most important thing ever for our club and looking at the plans i can't wait for it to start. Our time will come we will get our new stadium

I wouldn’t get your hopes up about the new ground too much. In the absence of SL rugby in the foreseeable future I would doubt York Court will finance such a larger unneeded stadium. We’ll probably end up with a small stadium good enough for the lower leagues. This is of course assuming it gets past PI.

If we settled for a smaller stadium it would show lack of ambition I think it will be 12 k minimum

Yorkcourt will build what was planned, that is what is agreed with the council and the application.

Why would it matter to them what league we are playing in? It's not like they would have a land lord status over the stadium.

A 12,000 capacity stadium is a must for moving back into SL and back up the ladder.

What we need to do next year is hit the 5,000 mark as many times as possible to show the depth of feeling for the game in our area. I have no doubt that can be done via savvy marketing and membership, all of which AG has shown he has a nose for IMO.

Moving out of BV at the end of the season wouldn't bother me, because by the time the season came around the PI would be done with and we can have fun on the "roadshow" (Dewsbury/Fev) until we move back home to Wakefield and Newmarket!

Yorkcourt have already said numerous times that NM is just as viable for the Championship as SL.
They're interested in industrial development, which is dependent on providing a stadium- why should it matter what league we're in?

Bottom line:
IMO if we are in the Championship that's even more reason to press on with developing a state of the art stadium and training facility.

I’m afraid that’s a very optimistic view of the events. 5K crowds in the Championship are a complete pipe dream We struggled to get 1500 last time, that’s was when the dream of promotion was still alive.

Regarding the ground, the cost between building a 6K stadium and a 12K stadium would be enough that they don’t have to justify building for Championship rugby. Forget visions of 2015, it quite clear where the game is going that we are not welcome in the top flight.

Would there be any major legal/planning issues, if prior to starting the actual build that Yorcourt, with the appropiate permissions couldn't build smaller?

Is it written in stone that another sporting club, be it rugby/ football/ whatever, couldn't be the main lessee rather than Trinity?

I still dont see why York Court would stop building the planned stadium because we were in the championship? We need the planned stadium and Mr York Court has kept his promises so far to deliver a stadium that the club want, I dont see the point of a smaller stadium??

It would also demonstrate a permanent lack of ambition.

The stadium build is not affected by the division we will play in, the only danger in us being in the Championship is in the possibility of the WMDC pulling the £2M facility, which was for SL clubs in the District, and offering the whole £4M to Cas.

However, SRW & Colin Mackie have both said that the stadium build would not be scuppered by the Council pulling that £2M.

IF wakey can get the new stadium then wakey should no doubt be in super league the club could achieve big things

We all know this so lets hope the RFL realise and give us the chance to fulfil our potential in Super League next year.

The point is that a smaller stadium will be cheaper. How do we know that eviction from SL won't be a game changer? The prospects of getting back are so slim, why would york court risk the extra investment thats simply not needed? The reality is that Championship rugby would be a disaster for any planning for our future.

We could moving from now but that the RFL would rather have a 30 year failure in london to continue or that joke of a club thats just over the welsh border. Shame our board won't have to bottle to sue the RFL!

Yes the Championship is a disaster for future planning, didnt seem to bother the Board and fans of Wakefield when the club voted to accept the current franchise system that it was a disaster for clubs stuck in the championship. It didnt seem to bother anyone involved with Wakey after gaining promotion in 98 to then vote to stop P+R either, there will be little sympathy for the plight of Wakefield im afraid

I don't know if that was the circumstances at the time (98 onwards), but in 2008 I argued strongly against the franchise system and the unfairness of it and a few other Wakey fans on here did. I don’t think the feeling amongst most Wakey fans was of support for the system, at least most I talk to was never in favour of it. It's just a case of a lot of us been more vocal in our opposition now that we are directly affected.

When Wakey went up in 98 they got no money from super league so the then 2nd tier clubs gave Wakey some of there money from the sky contract in return Wakey would stand up for P+R. Wakey took the money and went back on there word voting to stop P+R

We went up in 1998 and P & R stopped in 2008 that's 10 years were c c sides could be promoted. You correct we didn't get full sky money for 2 season which happened to no other club when promoted. Back on topic anyway I sure I read NM would be 12k minimum or 15k if the community trust had enough funds for the corners

Jeez your one fickle fan, last year you were trying to rub Cas fans noses in it on a daily basis now your whole world has collapsed.

Well you're wrong as ever. What division we are in or what crowds we get will not stop Yorkcourt building the Stadium they planned for - they too see long term and they also need it to get planning permission anyway.

You just have to look in a 10 mile radius to see two clubs who gained new stadiums when they and their partner clubs were not top flight and had gates nowhere near capacity. Doncaster and Huddersfield. Only one out of those four is top flight and none of them hit capacity on anything like a regualra basis. Yet both stadiums were built.

Richardson and the gang may well have, not the fault of the Wakey fans mate.

It'll be payback time soon from the Cas fans and who can blame them after some of the stuff posted on there.

On topic Newmarket will run as planned.

We're nearing reality, i can't wait for NM

I don't see whats so fickle about my opinions, I've always accepted that Newmarket was a chance event.



You don't know if I'm wrong do you, your just hoping everything turns out well in the end. Thats what Ted did and look where it got us. Is there really anything cast iron to say that York Court have to build a SL standard size stadium or is there?

The whole system of franchise selection has changed. If the chances of us coming back up appear to be slim what need is there to invest in a larger stadium. Just look at Leigh a nice big ground that really is not needed considering the chances of them ever playing SL are slim ( under the present system).

as i see it the plans submitted in the application make belle vue super league standard whereas "the jungle" isnt..so cas's application is flawed...don't really care anymore tho as long as jk leaves...last year catalans and this year cas...how much he must love wakefield!

Yes good point Cas havent got a plan to have a franchise standard stadium in time for next season yet we have how would the RFL explain that one away........

Except Wakefield have also submitted a signed 5 year tenancy agreement for the club to play out of Oakwell until Newmarket is ready.

The RFL have asked the club NOT to vacate Wakefield and go to Barnsley so the club also submitted plans to temporarily upgrade Belle Vue, they also submitted proof of funding for the upgrade and a report from the WMDC planning office which confirmed the upgrade was doable.