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| I think someone at the Club needs to look very closely at the Rhinos 4 Life Lottery (The recently re-branded Rhinos 2000) and think about launching something similar at Wakefield.
[urlhttp://www.therhinos.co.uk/club/rhinos_4_life.php[/url
As well as £500 draw per week day, you get very good fringe benefits, with access to the Carnegie Cafe bar before games and the players Long Bar after the games. Plus free Ronnie's club membership for the kids, a season ticket price freeze, discount on away travel etc.
Leeds do membership all by Direct Debit or annual payment now as well (it is around £8 a month) and while I think £500 per day might be ambitious at Wakefield a £100 daily draw maybe heading to £200 as more people sign up would be a great idea!
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Sorry Snowie, I stopped when I read that.
Pie in the sky idea... we wouldnt sell 1000, nor would we have we ever sold 500.. so expecting 2000 per week is laughable. It really is.
Too many fundraisers within the ground would imo feel someone's taking the proverbial.:
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God knows what else there is.'"
Have to agree with that, also add on a huge economic recession and it simply won't happen. We need new thinking on this subject and some serious rationalisation. Also the new owner is enjoying some credibility but I suspect it will take time to heal some old wounds, not just those left by the last regime but those going right back to the 1960's - won't be easy.
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| Quote ="feline"For those of you who contribute to the lottery which has probably been going around 10 years , £1 per week just to let you know none of the proceeds go to the club'"
I pay £3 every 2 weeks, the guy who collects from my house calls it "Wildcats".
The only reason I joined was because of Trinity, are you saying none of the money iv'e been paying over a long period as gone to the club.
If so I want some answers.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"I pay £3 every 2 weeks, the guy who collects from my house calls it "Wildcats".
The only reason I joined was because of Trinity, are you saying none of the money iv'e been paying over a long period as gone to the club.
If so I want some answers.'"
That's what she's saying!
The onus is on the people who run the lottery to inform you that they are not representing Wakefield Trinity. Not to do so is a serious offence known as "passing off" and carries a big fine.
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| And the ticket suggests that the company operating the lottery is based at Belle Vue.
Curiouser and curiouser...
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| I understand the lottery company you are talking about rented office space in the old club shop until christmas but were nothing to do with the club
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| Quote ="merlin"I understand the lottery company you are talking about rented office space in the old club shop until christmas but were nothing to do with the club'"
Which begs the question is why were they allowed to portray a facade that they were associated to or part of the RLFC?
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| Do we know where they are based now, would like to get in touch with them.
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| AFAIK Stuart Farrar was a director of the club.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Do we know where they are based now, would like to get in touch with them.'"
3-10 Trinity buildings, Calder Vale Road, Wakefield, WF1 5PE.
Tel 01924 787510.
Fill yer boots.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"I pay £3 every 2 weeks, the guy who collects from my house calls it "Wildcats".
The only reason I joined was because of Trinity, are you saying none of the money iv'e been paying over a long period as gone to the club.
If so I want some answers.'" if its the same guy we had he always gave the impression that in some way he was connected to the club I feel very bitter that I was made to think that I was helping the club in a little way
and I never won naff all so does any one win in the supercash
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| Quote ="snowie"if its the same guy we had he always gave the impression that in some way he was connected to the club
I feel very bitter that I was made to think that I was helping the club in a little way
and I never won naff all so does any one win in the supercash
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I've won the odd tenner but have done it for years so no net gain for me.
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| Quote ="bigalf"AFAIK Stuart Farrar was a director of the club.'"
Was!
Left the club to run a lottery business
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| So a former Director of the club, working out of an office at the club, ran a lottery masquerading as being for the benefit of the club - and none of the exective officers knew about it?
That's okay then... I suppose?
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| On the 3rd line down from 'Supercash Lottery' it is written - All proceeds go directly to help your club
It would seem like a job for the police and the gambling commission.
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| The question is why has this been allowed to go on so long. The club must have known surely?
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| Quote ="TwoBlues"On the 3rd line down from 'Supercash Lottery' it is written - All proceeds go directly to help your club
It would seem like a job for the police and the gambling commission.'"
Not on the form i have mate, it says "supercash donating funds to sport for kids in Wakefield" it does not mention any club.
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| This may or may not put some meat on the bones.
the lottery was originally called Trinity Line and I believe the proceeds went the club.
Stuart Farrar was a previous director of the club, I believe the the lottery became super cash and to all intents and purpose the lottery was run from BV, I thought it was the club lottery that also administered other clubs lotteries for them also. Looking on the board here it seems the TOR may have changed at some point. Their office was in the flats at BV so I assume there has previously been a rental arrangement. I was a member for years paying by DD, my father in law paid weekly but the collectors were intermittent so we packed it in.
Not sure of the current status other than whats on here.
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| A few years ago i was a agent for Trinity Line,collecting appox £25 pw from work colleges family & friends.
On one occasion on taking the money into the Trinty Line office,i asked if any accounts of the moneys were available,my request was met with the following reply "we are under no obligation to show you any accounts" I never collected again!.
This just shows how little respect they showed & how secretive they were.
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| I worked for WMDC for many years and when the lottery commenced I opted to pay directly from my pay on a monthly basis. About four months after I retired I won first prize (My second); the Council had omitted to cancel my membership. I tapped on the window with a five pound note to inform them of their error but they chose to ignore me. As far as I know they are still paying.
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| when I lost my job last year we stopped paying then and only since then has it come to light, we had a idea when we noticed Wakefield Trinity's name was on the leaflet with the winners on that some thing wasn't right,
if I hadn't lost my job i could of been still paying now
can any one tell me how long it has stopped donating to Trinity as I'm sure we haven't been doing it that long maybe two years at the most
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| My blokes just been for is money and i've binned him, the guy does it part time and no idea about it.
Felt a bit rotten because he's been coming for years.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"My blokes just been for is money and i've binned him, the guy does it part time and no idea about it.
Felt a bit rotten because he's been coming for years.'" getting a bit soft in your old age
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| This statement was put on the club's website a couple of days ago:
Important Lottery Notice
The Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have been made aware that a number of people are still paying into the old ‘SuperCash’ lottery that is still operating under the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats name.
The new regime at The Club doesn’t currently operate a lottery, therefore any lotteries claiming to be operating under the Club’s name are misleading supporters. Money that is still being paid into the old lottery will no longer be benefitting the club at all, therefore we advise that anyone who was contributing to the lottery for this reason should either cancel their payments or contact the lottery company.
The Club is currently in the process of setting up their own Wakefield Trinity Wildcats lottery and fans will be provided with further information as soon as this is up and running.
General Manager Davide Longo commented, “It has been brought to my attention that people are using Wakefield Trinity Wildcats to promote lotteries across the District. We are not in any affiliation with these companies and the money is certainly not benefitting the club in any way.”
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Sorry Snowie, I stopped when I read that.
Pie in the sky idea... we wouldnt sell 1000, nor would we have we ever sold 500.. so expecting 2000 per week is laughable. It really is.
Too many fundraisers within the ground would imo feel someone's taking the proverbial.:
- Supporters Trust
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God knows what else there is.'" Quote ="snowie"what I would like to suggest to the club is that they set up their own very similar to the way the WMC used to.
bare with me just an idea
while it may only be a small amount to win in return it could bring in coffers in other directions.
lets say we sold £2000 weekly which is half of the hard core support and we took £200 as the prize money, that could be doubled for being a season ticket holder and then doubled again if you in the stadium for the draw on the day of the game
that's £800 for just coming to watch your club.
What this does is opens up the thoughts of being a season ticket holder or even just coming to watch the game you can benefit.
It will be little profit to the club in lottery but could prove to be a winner'"
Quote ="PHe"This statement was put on the club's website a couple of days ago:
Important Lottery Notice
The Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have been made aware that a number of people are still paying into the old ‘SuperCash’ lottery that is still operating under the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats name.
The new regime at The Club doesn’t currently operate a lottery, therefore any lotteries claiming to be operating under the Club’s name are misleading supporters. Money that is still being paid into the old lottery will no longer be benefitting the club at all, therefore we advise that anyone who was contributing to the lottery for this reason should either cancel their payments or contact the lottery company.
The Club is currently in the process of setting up their own Wakefield Trinity Wildcats lottery and fans will be provided with further information as soon as this is up and running.
General Manager Davide Longo commented, “It has been brought to my attention that people are using Wakefield Trinity Wildcats to promote lotteries across the District. We are not in any affiliation with these companies and the money is certainly not benefitting the club in any way.”'"
well reading this statement the club don't think so, if its done properly they could tap into the fans that left years and try and convert them to the old game or two, who's to say that they don't give them an incentive to join by giving a free ticket to a game, £1 weekly done by standing /direct debt wouldn't break the bank would it
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