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| Quote ="bren2k"Shane Tronc was the real deal - he was an outstanding forward; the club treated him like $hit however, and he understandably jacked it in and went home. Genuine shame, and he doesn't deserve to be on that list.
Other than that - I agree with the sentiment; other clubs seem to be able to find these players, but we haven't had much success over the years.'"
Surprised at you Bren, if you read my post I gave a number of criteria including not being here long and the club being un-professional. As I also stated I'm not blaming the players entirely as I don't suppose props are any less decent people that S/R's who we've done well with - so I'm sorry but he belongs on the list because he didn't meet the full criteria no matters who's fault it was. Thanks.
PS: What did the club do I heard it was his wife who had issues?
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't quite agree with all your ratings.
To include Mark Graham for a start is a long way from the truth. He was an outstanding player, he just didn't stay for very long.
So I agree we didn't build a team around him but he was value for money for the time we had him.
Brent Todd, Paea, Hood are definitely in the useless to us category. O'Brien I thought was ok but not worthy of the State of Origin tag he brought with him by a long way.
Poore should have been better in the long run. If he'd stayed and got past his injury/propensity to hit people, he might have been something.
But above all those, the one I think you have very wrong is Adrian Shelford. He is in the Watene and Korkidas category for me. He was in my opinion easily the best forward in a team that had a good pack of forwards. He really rated him.'"
Yep as I said to Bren it's the full criteria - I loved Shelford but he didn't stay long. So again yes on Tronc and Stosic and the rest for me.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Good call.'"
Half a season?no matters who's to blame that's a failure - how good he was in those games is not all that relevant tbh.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Shane Tronc was the real deal - he was an outstanding forward; the club treated him like $hit however, and he understandably jacked it in and went home. Genuine shame, and he doesn't deserve to be on that list.
Other than that - I agree with the sentiment; other clubs seem to be able to find these players, but we haven't had much success over the years.'"
I also have to ask how the club treated him like $hit ???
He was staying just around the corner from me in a nice 3 bed semi down in Durkar, and the only reason I recall him leaving was that his wife got homesick very quickly.
What did the club do wrong ?
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| Darren Fritz ? Great signing but does he fit the category, size wise.
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| Quote ="vastman"Half a season?no matters who's to blame that's a failure - how good he was in those games is not all that relevant tbh.
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Good call was for the guy who mentioned Stosic mate. He was here for a year, although he didn't get that Passport sorted for the next season,imo we got our money's worth.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Good call was for the guy who mentioned Stosic mate. He was here for a year, although he didn't get that Passport sorted for the next season,imo we got our money's worth.'"
Plus the knee injury that kept him out, his first game away against Wigan on a snowy night, awesome, run his blood to water a cracking prop
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Shane Tronc is the best prop I've seen wear the Trinity shirt although it was too short as from my memory I read that there were issues about false promises made by the club to him and his wife was homesick....
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 624755.stm
Think Tronc must have started playing again in 2014 after retiring in 2011 aged 29 ...as he's mentioned in the article below and is still only 34.....
www.totalrl.com/my-time-down-under/
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Shane Tronc is the best prop I've seen wear the Trinity shirt although it was too short as from my memory I read that there were issues about false promises made by the club to him and his wife was homesick....
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 624755.stm
Think Tronc must have started playing again in 2014 after retiring in 2011 aged 29 ...as he's mentioned in the article below and is still only 34.....
www.totalrl.com/my-time-down-under/
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Plus the knee injury that kept him out, his first game away against Wigan on a snowy night, awesome, run his blood to water a cracking prop
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Aye forgot he was out weeks with that injury, hit the ground running soon as he was back like you say.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Shane Tronc is the best prop I've seen wear the Trinity shirt although it was too short as from my memory I read that there were issues about false promises made by the club to him and his wife was homesick'"
I was told some time after the event that the club made promises to him that weren't delivered - and that the homesick wife was a story they agreed in return for releasing him to go home.
I seem to recall that it ended badly for him - didn't he break his neck back in Aus and end up embroiled in a drug scandal?
I would go so far as to say that he was the best prop I've seen at BV; he topped the table for metres made for some time after he stopped playing for us - he was a class laiker.
Edit - fair comment Vasty - I didn't read your original post properly.
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| Quote ="Miro"Darren Fritz ? Great signing but does he fit the category, size wise.'"
I forgot about him, possibly the closest we've come but gain the one year only bit spoils it - though playing an off season in the UK was a common thing then.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I was told some time after the event that the club made promises to him that weren't delivered - and that the homesick wife was a story they agreed in return for releasing him to go home.
I seem to recall that it ended badly for him - didn't he break his neck back in Aus and end up embroiled in a drug scandal?
I would go so far as to say that he was the best prop I've seen at BV; he topped the table for metres made for some time after he stopped playing for us - he was a class laiker.
Edit - fair comment Vasty - I didn't read your original post properly.
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No problem, I have that effect on people.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Plus the knee injury that kept him out, his first game away against Wigan on a snowy night, awesome, run his blood to water a cracking prop
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He was a brilliant prop forward - not very tall, but very wide! Tree trunk legs
Built a little bit like Les Boyd (if you don't know who that is, ask yer Dad!)
Didn't he play in the Cas away game with a fractured eye socket/cheekbone?
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| Quote ="Miro"Darren Fritz ? Great signing but does he fit the category, size wise.'"
Another great player - built like a stork but hard as nails.
Liked a drink on Westgate..........so I heard
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Shane Tronc is the best prop I've seen wear the Trinity shirt
Without a doubt - great awe about him and always made great yards.
Massive bloke too.
Even if it was for 11 or so games, it was brilliant to see him in a Trin shirt.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"He was a brilliant prop forward - not very tall, but very wide! Tree trunk legs
Built a little bit like Les Boyd (if you don't know who that is, ask yer Dad!)
Didn't he play in the Cas away game with a fractured eye socket/cheekbone?'"
He probably did, he picked up the fractured eye socket after a grubby cheap shot while lying in a tackle from Kieron Cunningham.
I've put on other threads he was one of my favourite props to play for Trinity. Was a top guy to boot.
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| Clinton o brien only played one origin series and it was 5 or 6 years prior to him coming over
I think he had serious back problems from memory. He player well in the handful of games he did play for us before he went back to aus
agree with everyone re James Stosic. Was a real shame he could get a work permit to continue playing for us
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| Yes, I agree on Tronc, he was good for us, and it was a shame he didnt play for us for long.
Another one I liked, though a bit more recent was Poore. It was a shame we had to sell him on, and then he suffered his horrendous injury playing for Hull KR.
He always ran the ball in hard, leaving a trail of devastation in his wake.
2 things I always remember was him flattening Ryan Bailey, and then trampling all over Lincoln Withers
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"He was a brilliant prop forward - not very tall, but very wide! Tree trunk legs
Built a little bit like Les Boyd (if you don't know who that is, ask yer Dad!)
Didn't he play in the Cas away game with a fractured eye socket/cheekbone?'"
Finished his career at Wire I think, I'm obviously older than you think
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"
2 things I always remember was him flattening Ryan Bailey, and then trampling all over Lincoln Withers'"
I remember him for that single punch that flattened Farrel
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| Poore's run over Withers was devastating prop forward play ironically Hull KR then signed him at the end of the season...
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| I'm glad someone else remembers cheap shot cunninghams cowardly punch
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| Perhaps not. Not the best weather mind.
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| He's got the aggression but also the errors, penalties and ill discipline to go with it.
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