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| Brain McDerrmott is/was Chris Chester but had the luxury of Sinfield, Peacock, Maguire, Burrow et al to get him out of a hole. When they all went Leeds were relegation fodder.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Brain McDerrmott is/was Chris Chester but had the luxury of Sinfield, Peacock, Maguire, Burrow et al to get him out of a hole. When they all went Leeds were relegation fodder.'"
I seem to recall him coaching two seasons without the golden generation, one where they finished in the bottom four with us and topped the relegation group and the other where they won the grand final. I’m sorry sir but Brian McDermott has never been, will never be nor is Chris Chester.
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"I seem to recall him coaching two seasons without the golden generation, one where they finished in the bottom four with us and topped the relegation group and the other where they won the grand final. I’m sorry sir but Brian McDermott has never been, will never be nor is Chris Chester.'"
You mean the season when Maguire and Burrow retired? The season they got walloped 66 something against Cas. Credit to them they won SL with a late push but for much of the season yhe Leeds fans were pretty much saying the same thins as Trinity fans are about Chester. No game plan, no structure, relying on older players. Leeds had better players, bigger resource yet they are still recovering from his tenure. The players he had well and truly covered up his averageness.
I think after that GF win (with the huge sentimental drive they had that year) they were back down fighting in the middle 8's again.
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| I would also take a chance on Danny Ward he nearly kept London in SL well structured drilled side with no luxury players.
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| Danny Ward is a realistic opition, out of work, a good few years coaching experience and seems to get players motivated/playing for each other. He seems to enthuse positivity and that reflects on his team. Our lot look miserable
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I would also take a chance on Danny Ward he nearly kept London in SL well structured drilled side with no luxury players.'"
That is a way better option than McDermot but don't hold your breath as it won't happen.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I would also take a chance on Danny Ward he nearly kept London in SL well structured drilled side with no luxury players.'"
Agreed. We should move quick before he's snapped up elsewhere, it's likely Rugby Union will come calling soon.
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| We want the coach who nearly kept London in Super League to replace the coach who Did keep Wakefield in Super League?
We need to aim higher.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We want the coach who nearly kept London in Super League to replace the coach who Did keep Wakefield in Super League?
We need to aim higher.'"
As you well know you are comparing apples and oranges. That said I've no idea about Ward I don't pay enough attention to anyone other than Wakey and that is being tested to the limit
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| Quote ="PopTart"We want the coach who nearly kept London in Super League to replace the coach who Did keep Wakefield in Super League?
We need to aim higher.'"
They lost by 9 points at Belle Vue and gave us a good hiding at Trailfinders, think he's higher already!
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| I'd have Kear back in a shot personally, I still think our group of players is pretty good with some decent youth. I think he'd turn us round in 3/4 games
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| Lose at Leigh and where do we go from there?
Because I can see them destroying us.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Lose at Leigh and where do we go from there?
Because I can see them destroying us.'"
Go knock on John's door
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| Quote ="PopTart"We want the coach who nearly kept London in Super League to replace the coach who Did keep Wakefield in Super League?
We need to aim higher.'"
To a point I agree in that Ward was under very little pressure at London, big fish small pond.
However at the moment, we have sunk back to being a very similar club to London, we shouldn't be but we are.
After a few years playing and competing like a conventional team, we are now back to needing to find the mongrel spirit to survive as SL underdogs. In which case Ward might just fit the bill. He's certainly not tried and tested as Kear was but he showed enough to suggest he can get results from less than promising players.
Who would you suggest? Nobody immediately springs to mind. In a perfect world, JD would be the man but there is more chance of you or me getting the gig to be honest.
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| Quote ="Schunter"I'd have Kear back in a shot personally, I still think our group of players is pretty good with some decent youth. I think he'd turn us round in 3/4 games'"
Why would he want to?
He got absolutely lambasted by the turncoats one here. If I were him and after all he had done for the club, I'd tell Wakey fans where to shove it. He's better off at Bradford.
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| Quote ="vastman"To a point I agree in that Ward was under very little pressure at London, big fish small pond.
However at the moment, we have sunk back to being a very similar club to London, we shouldn't be but we are.
After a few years playing and competing like a conventional team, we are now back to needing to find the mongrel spirit to survive as SL underdogs. In which case Ward might just fit the bill. He's certainly not tried and tested as Kear was but he showed enough to suggest he can get results from less than promising players.
Who would you suggest? Nobody immediately springs to mind. In a perfect world, JD would be the man but there is more chance of you or me getting the gig to be honest.'"
Personally I'd rather go for a Wane or Kear....... Or an up and coming NRL coach who has good recommendations like JD did.
I think it needs someone with either a lot of experience or someone removed from the emotion who just wants to get a result and move on in 2 years.
If we had to go unproven English I'd go for James Ford at York.
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| Quote ="Schunter"I'd have Kear back in a shot personally, I still think our group of players is pretty good with some decent youth. I think he'd turn us round in 3/4 games'"
Me too. Never wanted him to leave in the first place.
He can have all the Andrew Fifita money for me.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We want the coach who nearly kept London in Super League to replace the coach who Did keep Wakefield in Super League?
We need to aim higher.'"
I actually admire your attempt to defend the indefensible and carrying on with the line who is better then Chester. The bar is set fairly low to be better than Chester so the way to look at it is who would be worse than Chester because this is a much smaller group.
I note your usual fellow Chester defenders BG and WWW and suspiciously absent leaving you a loan voice in the wind of despair.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I actually admire your attempt to defend the indefensible and carrying on with the line who is better then Chester. The bar is set fairly low to be better than Chester so the way to look at it is who would be worse than Chester because this is a much smaller group.
I note your usual fellow Chester defenders BG and WWW and suspiciously absent leaving you a loan voice in the wind of despair.'"
Why do you make it all personal?
It's not my job to defend PT but where exactly is he a Chester defender. All he's done is point out that there are other factors involved and alternative ways to look at it.
He's said on at least three posts that he thinks it's probably time Chester went or similar.
I most certainly do not admire the way you manipulate people's posts to further your own agenda.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why would he want to?
He got absolutely lambasted by the turncoats one here. If I were him and after all he had done for the club, I'd tell Wakey fans where to shove it. He's better off at Bradford.'"
There may well have been some on here but from memory overall he left on a reasonable note didnt he? With a win over Bradford when we some how still didn't finish bottom despite horrendous financial issues? Most fans I know still hold him in reasonable regard if not higher like myself. He was far from perfect but he was good at getting the best out of players and had a good eye for a player too.
As you allude to though the idea of coming back may not appeal, but usually brass talks if nowt else
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| Quote ="PopTart"Personally I'd rather go for a Wane or Kear....... Or an up and coming NRL coach who has good recommendations like JD did.
I think it needs someone with either a lot of experience or someone removed from the emotion who just wants to get a result and move on in 2 years.
If we had to go unproven English I'd go for James Ford at York.'"
So you don't want Ward, a guy who got London promoted against all odds aganst megabucks Toronto, almost kept them up with the smallest budget in the league and has been an assistant to Wayne Bennett for Great Britain. But you'd be happy with James Ford, a promising coach yes but one who has never coached in the top division in any capacity, in fact has never even dealt with fulltime players before and whose team is currently in the bottom half of the championship despite having one of the bigger spending budgets and many well known players. Right OK then.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why would he want to?
He got absolutely lambasted by the turncoats one here. If I were him and after all he had done for the club, I'd tell Wakey fans where to shove it. He's better off at Bradford.'"
Well that's not how I remember things. My recollection is that a bitterness and a bit of a falling out developed when Kear was approached by Catslan but the club would not allow it without compensation. From that point on things were not the same and bad feelings started to build and fester. But you are correct he left in a bitter way and got some stick.
But he did return after all that. The second time he left was with a thank you from the club and I honestly dont remember one bad word from anyone on the second occasion. Could be wrong but that's what he recall.
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| Quote ="vastman"To a point I agree in that Ward was under very little pressure at London, big fish small pond.
However at the moment, we have sunk back to being a very similar club to London, we shouldn't be but we are.
After a few years playing and competing like a conventional team, we are now back to needing to find the mongrel spirit to survive as SL underdogs. In which case Ward might just fit the bill. He's certainly not tried and tested as Kear was but he showed enough to suggest he can get results from less than promising players.
Who would you suggest? Nobody immediately springs to mind. In a perfect world, JD would be the man but there is more chance of you or me getting the gig to be honest.'"
There's been some pretty pointless discussions on here, but this one really is the most ridiculous?!! Unless of course his sacking/resignation is imminent...........?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Well that's not how I remember things. My recollection is that a bitterness and a bit of a falling out developed when Kear was approached by Catslan but the club would not allow it without compensation. From that point on things were not the same and bad feelings started to build and fester. But you are correct he left in a bitter way and got some stick.
But he did return after all that. The second time he left was with a thank you from the club and I honestly dont remember one bad word from anyone on the second occasion. Could be wrong but that's what he recall.'"
I’m talking about this forum and fans in general. He was absolutely hammered on here for his ‘boring’ rugby despite no budget and a six point deduction. Sorry PB but all those who wanted him to get the freedom of the city in 2006 wanted him out.
Of course it went well the second time as the team was playing well.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Personally I'd rather go for a Wane or Kear....... Or an up and coming NRL coach who has good recommendations like JD did.
I think it needs someone with either a lot of experience or someone removed from the emotion who just wants to get a result and move on in 2 years.
[uIf we had to go unproven English I'd go for James Ford at York[/u.'"
If we are going down that route with the unproven English and I'm certainly not against it, I'd go for Sean Long at Leeds, love to see him given the chance.
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