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| May be worth asking the UKIP councillor to raise some of those points at the council meeting on Wednesday, particularly asking the council why, if it is supposedly in their power to draft a new multi-party agreement with Newcold contributing towards the trigger point, they refuse to do so?
Also, if what's been said is indeed true then the council are even worse I thought. Why on earth would you actively choose to hinder the development of community sports facilities at a time when they're shutting so many down?
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| Excellent response which I hope will have the desired affect. The questions put to WMDC in this deserve answers which should be easily done unless there is something to hide which seems to be more evident the more we get to know
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| Excellent response.
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| First class responce SC. Well done.
Lets see if they've got the balls. to honestly reply back.
Also had no idea the Newcold was being extended at all, let alone by such a huge amount.
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| Top draw response Sandal proud of you and your team
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| Brilliant response. At least 2-3 hours concentration and effort.
As far as Sir RMW is concerned. Why tarnish your reputation with the formation of an alternative trust.
Unless he has some Monty Pythonesque fetish, it's complete madness. What has gone on there?
Bloody minded madness.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"We are most disappointed with the recent actions of the former Trust Chair, Sir Rodney Walker. Relationships between Sir Rodney and the other Trust Member had become increasing strained due to Sir Rodney having meetings with the Council and the Developer without inviting other Trust Members to attend so much so that the Board resolved that no meetings could take place without there being at least two Trust Members present. Matters clearly came to a head at the Trust Board Meeting on 23rd February 2017 when Sir Rodney announced that as of 2.00pm he would resign from the Trust and that he was in the process of establishing another Trust with 4 new Trustees which would deliver the community stadium rather than the Wakefield & District Community Trust. There was much anger expressed by the remaining Board Members and Sir Rodney was asked to leave the meeting prior to his 2.00pm resignation.'"
My, oh my, Wakefield Two Trusts, how's the new one going on?
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| Well i think this is going to be a unpopular post but here goes anyway, first of all i would like to say a big well-done to all in the trust for keeping the fight going but it is mentioned a few times in that statement that we or the trust would still like the monies that WMDC said they would put in all those years ago, yet only a couple of days ago i heard Mr carter on a radio interview say that Wakefield trinity did not want any money from the council, so i think both parties need to get there stories straight going forward.
Secondly I don't know if it is meant as sarcasm or a serious statement when the words "we seem to recall" have been used, if it's sarcasm i think this could just put the backs up of Mr box and co if it's a serious statement then i think it will just be brushed aside,
I thought i had read that the trust had sought legal advice, surly they would have advised against that statement.
And my last point and i could well be wrong on this one but wasn't a Cas fan coming on here all those years ago telling us that newcold was going to be a stand alone project and would not count towards the trigger point long before it was passed.
Anyway sorry to be negative but i am just not feeling positive on any outcome of all this.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Bar a couple of grammatical errors and a couple of typos it is a good response. Just probably could have done with a bit more proof reading.'"
Seriously
It's a work of genius when you think that the WMDC legal bods couldn't read the 104 as it was to complicated for them.
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| Quote ="Nickward86"Well i think this is going to be a unpopular post but here goes anyway, first of all i would like to say a big well-done to all in the trust for keeping the fight going but it is mentioned a few times in that statement that we or the trust would still like the monies that WMDC said they would put in all those years ago, yet only a couple of days ago i heard Mr carter on a radio interview say that Wakefield trinity did not want any money from the council, so i think both parties need to get there stories straight going forward.
Secondly I don't know if it is meant as sarcasm or a serious statement when the words "we seem to recall" have been used, if it's sarcasm i think this could just put the backs up of Mr box and co if it's a serious statement then i think it will just be brushed aside,
I thought i had read that the trust had sought legal advice, surly they would have advised against that statement.
And my last point and i could well be wrong on this one but wasn't a Cas fan coming on here all those years ago telling us that newcold was going to be a stand alone project and would not count towards the trigger point long before it was passed.
Anyway sorry to be negative but i am just not feeling positive on any outcome of all this.'"
You're not really sorry are you, you're just trolling.
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| Quote ="vastman"You're not really sorry are you, you're just trolling.'"
As i said i knew it would be unpopular, but is it better to be unpopular and make a point that i think needs making or just stick your head in the sand and say yes that's great now we've got em on the ropes and keep the forum police aka vastman happy.
I know which i think is best.
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| Quote ="Nickward86"As i said i knew it would be unpopular, but is it better to be unpopular and make a point that i think needs making or just stick your head in the sand and say yes that's great now we've got em on the ropes and keep the forum police aka vastman happy.
I know which i think is best.'"
Well I think it's more of a case the club have been trying to force the council to actually enforce the planning conditions and trying to stress to people that that is what we're mostly interested in rather than getting money from them. Then the council have come out this week and said that the offer of £2 million is still on the table, which we'd have to be completely stupid to turn down. The most important thing though still remains them enforcing the planning conditions, otherwise the £2 million is completely useless.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"Well I think it's more of a case the club have been trying to force the council to actually enforce the planning conditions and trying to stress to people that that is what we're mostly interested in rather than getting money from them. Then the council have come out this week and said that the offer of £2 million is still on the table, which we'd have to be completely stupid to turn down. The most important thing though still remains them enforcing the planning conditions, otherwise the £2 million is completely useless.'"
I don't know, if the trust the club and the council had all been in talks as trb continually tells us they have been then surely everyone knew that the funding was still on the table.
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| Quote ="Nickward86"Well i think this is going to be a unpopular post but here goes anyway, first of all i would like to say a big well-done to all in the trust for keeping the fight going but it is mentioned a few times in that statement that we or the trust would still like the monies that WMDC said they would put in all those years ago, yet only a couple of days ago i heard Mr carter on a radio interview say that Wakefield trinity did not want any money from the council, so i think both parties need to get there stories straight going forward.
Secondly I don't know if it is meant as sarcasm or a serious statement when the words "we seem to recall" have been used, if it's sarcasm i think this could just put the backs up of Mr box and co if it's a serious statement then i think it will just be brushed aside,
I thought i had read that the trust had sought legal advice, surly they would have advised against that statement.
And my last point and i could well be wrong on this one but wasn't a Cas fan coming on here all those years ago telling us that newcold was going to be a stand alone project and would not count towards the trigger point long before it was passed.
Anyway sorry to be negative but i am just not feeling positive on any outcome of all this.'"
I am not a WT fan and even I can answer that for you.
Mr Carter and WT are not asking for any money from the council, the Trust is asking for money to build a community stadium. You realise they are 2 separate things?
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| Quote ="Nickward86"As i said i knew it would be unpopular, but is it better to be unpopular and make a point that i think needs making or just stick your head in the sand and say yes that's great now we've got em on the ropes and keep the forum police aka vastman happy.
I know which i think is best.'"
Yep, whatever - nice that you've made a SUDDEN appearance spouting what is obviously factually wrong so please forgive me if I don'y buy the coy style of your posts.
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| Quote ="Nickward86"I don't know, if the trust the club and the council had all been in talks as trb continually tells us they have been then surely everyone knew that the funding was still on the table.'"
I think people are making too much of what Michael Carter said. The council said they'd give us the £2 million years ago, and have said they're happy to still give it so I don't really see the issue unless you're just looking to push an anti-Wakefield agenda like Tigertroll. The main thing we want is them to actually enforce their planning laws. I reckon if the council said right, we'll draft a multi-party agreement that says Newcold does contribute to the trigger point but you have to find the other £2 million somewhere else then the trust would probably agree because actually enforcing the planning conditions is infinitely more important.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yep, whatever - nice that you've made a SUDDEN appearance spouting what is obviously factually wrong so please forgive me if I don'y buy the coy style of your posts.'"
Which part do you see as been factually wrong, also i didn't realise there was a time limit required on the forum to make you "not a troll" but as i said before i am not too bothered about upsetting the forum police.
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| Quote ="Nickward86"Which part do you see as been factually wrong, also i didn't realise there was a time limit required on the forum to make you "not a troll" but as i said before i am not too bothered about upsetting the forum police.'"
You should be getting ready for tonights match
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Nickward86"Which part do you see as been factually wrong, also i didn't realise there was a time limit required on the forum to make you "not a troll" but as i said before i am not too bothered about upsetting the forum police.'"
I suppose it's factually wrong saying the club are asking for money when the £2 million would actually be spent on a stadium owned by the trust rather than club.
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| Is Sir Rodney still forming his 4 man trust? And who was supposedly in the 4 man trust. May the best trust win.
Up the Trin
Love this Club
Love this City
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Is Sir Rodney still forming his 4 man trust? And who was supposedly in the 4 man trust. May the best trust win.
Up the Trin
Love this Club
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| Excellent, well constructed response Sandal. Do the WE have a copy for publication?
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| Excellent response Sandal Cat.
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Not sure if this has already been put on here or on another thread but Andrea jenkyns MP for stanley is running a campaign for a public meeting with all parties concerned.
Well worth signing her campaign petition IMO
www.andreajenkyns.co.uk
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Not sure if this has already been put on here or on another thread but Andrea jenkyns MP for stanley is running a campaign for a public meeting with all parties concerned.
Well worth signing her campaign petition IMO
www.andreajenkyns.co.uk
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| Is the reason that the £2 million is back on the table is that Cas need it for their 'project'.
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