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| But i do apologize to any "genuine" fans that my original post may of caused. Just on the calm down now. And must admit most fans i seen ejected were plain clothed. My gf tried to report the incident after the game to police officers and were eyed down by 5-6 fans saying please sir etc etc wont say the rest, and ended up saying to the police it doesnt matter were been eyed down. Took our tops off and walked to car. P.S Never see me a BV again.
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| here is how it started before the game kicked of cas fans went to pub and had fire works throwed at them then the idiots did turned up at the game decided to throw a glass bottle and it hit some 1 on the head that how it all started
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| Why were the glass bottles and tin cans allowed through the turnstiles. At a previous home game there was an announcement to the effect that people would not be allowed to enter the ground with them. What's the use of paying lip service to Health and Safety, it should have been policed at the turnstiles.
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| Quote ="mcmickeycas"here is how it started before the game kicked of cas fans went to pub and had fire works throwed at them then the idiots did turned up at the game decided to throw a glass bottle and it hit some 1 on the head that how it all started'"
Pardon?
Seriously though, we can do all the finger pointing we want, the fact remains that it was both sets of supporters who were in the wrong. Shit like that does not happen because of ONE reason
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"BedOfRoses wrote:I took a picture of a gang of wakey fans, who by end of game was lead out in handcuffs.
I shall be sending it to both clubs & rfl!
Unfortunately we don't have a photographic database, so unless people dob them in your efforts are wasted. Did you take a photo of your idiots too?'"
Already been given the name of said young drunken man who led his gang upto back of sticks and caused alot of trouble. I shall not post a name,he is from eastmoore and has a twin brother.
Its alledged he may have been a little drunk from the Barnsley game and continued his thuggish behaviour at BV...
He was the lad in the white jacket and glasses...
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| Dickie wright going to press saying Cas fans never cause trouble and should be allowed to stand in the north stand. WTRLFC were right in the first place and should never have backed down to wrights pathetic rantings, =#FF0000EDIT:
Too far. RR North stand home fans only from now on as it creates a great atmosphere away fans eastern terrace like we should have stuck to in the first place
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| Quote ="PHe"Why were the glass bottles and tin cans allowed through the turnstiles. At a previous home game there was an announcement to the effect that people would not be allowed to enter the ground with them. What's the use of paying lip service to Health and Safety, it should have been policed at the turnstiles.'"
One of the stewards took half a dozen cans away early in the game.
Just for clarification i don't know if the came from Cas or Wakey fans but they got them into the ground somehow.
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| Let's have this pic on twitter and get it aroun to name, shame and ban these idiots...
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| Always a shame that 99% of well behaved people have their enjoyment (probably the wrong word with the performance from our lot) spoiled by a few idiots.
Probably caused by a combination of small little things:
1. Never been easier to have a drink at Belle Vue, and especially when selling off out of date stock cheaply.
2. An evening kick-off on a day off for most, and advertising you could watch the other TV games in Cats and drink there all day.
3. The nonsense over segregation. I an many other Wakey fans were stood in the 'away' section, and many Cas fans in the 'home' bits. Never any need to whip up a fuss about it nor bother with it in the first place.
4. Not sure the whole 'The City Is Ours' thing played a part, most will just ignore it but it could have whipped up some idiots who are easily swayed by stuff like that. (Made no sense as a tagline anyway)
As I say though, shame the idiots spoil it, don't think I can recall seeing that many police and vehicles at a game. Sad. Very sad.
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| Quote ="DwG"I don't see the harm in naming him.'"
I think the people who run this site may disagree with that.
I'm all for it myself but sorry we can't go down that route.
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| It was always the game I was expecting trouble. I think the club has to cop a lot of the blame, for the following reasons:
1. Started the "lets go north" campaign, encouraging all the home fans to stand where the away fans always stand, with the opening weekend of it being a Good Friday derby in the evening.
2. Issue instructions that sounded like they were being segregated in the least favourable part of the ground to stand, and so antagonised Cas.
3. Issued a "clarification" statement, stating in fact Cas fans would be allowed a third of the north stand, but then allowed them more than half.
4. Did not get sufficient stewards. I was in Chav Corner, and the line looked pretty thin.
5. Had a 7.30pm kick-off.
Had this been a noon kick off, would have been fine, but it had been building up to this all week.
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| Frankly it doesn't surprise me either. When I read comments on here about 'let's make the north stand ours' it seemed quite likely trouble would ensue. I was in my comfy seat in the East Stand though and saw no bother from there, so not gonna say too much more; left before the end to avoid trouble, as did a number of folk sat around me. Once the decision was made to segregate we should have stuck to it; it was the correct one in my view and I am surprised we backed down.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Let's have this pic on twitter and get it aroun to name, shame and ban these idiots...'"
The photo is on facebook,taken by a friend,who came close to having HER front teath knocked out by this t#8t..and his mates and other family members...
He will be reported to both clubs on monday morning and a photo of him will be sent to WTW.
The said lad played a huge part in the violence seen tonight.
As for his name or naming him,i shall not,not on here.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Always a shame that 99% of well behaved people have their enjoyment (probably the wrong word with the performance from our lot) spoiled by a few idiots.
Probably caused by a combination of small little things:
1. Never been easier to have a drink at Belle Vue, and especially when selling off out of date stock cheaply.
2. An evening kick-off on a day off for most, and advertising you could watch the other TV games in Cats and drink there all day.
3. The nonsense over segregation. I an many other Wakey fans were stood in the 'away' section, and many Cas fans in the 'home' bits. Never any need to whip up a fuss about it nor bother with it in the first place.
4. Not sure the whole 'The City Is Ours' thing played a part, most will just ignore it but it could have whipped up some idiots who are easily swayed by stuff like that. (Made no sense as a tagline anyway)
As I say though, shame the idiots spoil it, don't think I can recall seeing that many police and vehicles at a game. Sad. Very sad.'"
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| Quote ="El Rey"One of the stewards took half a dozen cans away early in the game.
Just for clarification i don't know if the came from Cas or Wakey fans but they got them into the ground somehow.'"
At other grounds eg Hull, Wigan supporters are 'searched' for bottles and cans, including looking in bags etc. prior to ground entry. I suspect that the north stand terrace will be littered with the aforementioned items.
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| Most say the north stand generates great atmosphere is was rocking until the we saw how disinterested the WTRLFC players were. Get the team performing and the north stand will back them up, it's a great addition to the ground.
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| Quote ="PHe"At other grounds eg Hull, Wigan supporters are 'searched' for bottles and cans, including looking in bags etc. prior to ground entry. I suspect that the north stand terrace will be littered with the aforementioned items.'"
I've never even tried to take cans of pop into BV , used to get searched all the time.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"BedOfRoses wrote:I took a picture of a gang of wakey fans, who by end of game was lead out in handcuffs.
I shall be sending it to both clubs & rfl!
Unfortunately we don't have a photographic database, so unless people dob them in your efforts are wasted. Did you take a photo of your idiots too?'"
I did not get any of cas fans as not 1 around me caused any trouble. If they had I wudda as there is zero need for fights and aggressive attitude. My sister was very scared of the gang around us, we did complain to a steward but he said 'don't care put it in writing love' so I will!
Go to wakey every year & never seen anything like it. I love banter at game makes it better. But people who throw beer, punches or bottles arnt true RL fans.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Your club were warned that this would happen - doesn't surprize me one bit.'"
Oh yeah. sweet and innocent Cas had nothing to do with it!
It wasn't that bad really and we were stood in the middle of it, speaking to some Cas fans who thought it was ridiculous as well.
Bear in mind if it had been football then there would have been a bloodbath, at this game there were maybe what, 30 people ejected, no one seriously hurt (though I did see a chap with claret running from his forehead quite early on)
Just a shame we lost tbh
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Oh yeah. sweet and innocent Cas had nothing to do with it!
[u[u[size=150It wasn't that bad really[/size [/u[/uand we were stood in the middle of it, speaking to some Cas fans who thought it was ridiculous as well.
Bear in mind if it had been football then there would have been a bloodbath, at this game there were maybe what, 30 people ejected, no one seriously hurt (though I did see a chap with claret running from his forehead quite early on)
Just a shame we lost tbh'"
Try you 13 yr old daughter in the middle of it and saying the same oh and your partner been hit by a bottle. Never mind football, this could have turned just as bad.
to with finish just a shame we lost tbh, probably sums up Your post.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Most say the north stand generates great atmosphere is was rocking until the we saw how disinterested the WTRLFC players were. Get the team performing and the north stand will back them up, =#BF0000it's a great addition to the ground.'"
That requires a tannoy system and some lights for night games. I think the club should fence the sides and have front entry only for Wakey fans, managed by stewards.
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| It is pointless pointing the finger at either set of fans as being responsible in my opinion. No-one can honestly say that one set of fans behaved better than another. Those who threw things, goaded and charged at other fans: you are a disgrace, whoever you follow. Those of us who are rightminded should not get drawn into a whose fans were worst argument; both sides had fans who behaved appallingly. For me, both CEO's have a lot of explaining to do. The way this whole thing has been handled is nothing short of a joke. Tonight was a very sad day for RL in my opinion and both sides should hang their heads in shame.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"It is pointless pointing the finger at either set of fans as being responsible in my opinion. No-one can honestly say that one set of fans behaved better than another. Those who threw things, goaded and charged at other fans: you are a disgrace, whoever you follow. Those of us who are rightminded should not get drawn into a whose fans were worst argument; both sides had fans who behaved appallingly. For me, both CEO's have a lot of explaining to do. The way this whole thing has been handled is nothing short of a joke. Tonight was a very sad day for RL in my opinion and both sides should hang their heads in shame.'"
Me agreeing with a Castleford fan, what's the world coming to
Well said Steady g
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"It is pointless pointing the finger at either set of fans as being responsible in my opinion. No-one can honestly say that one set of fans behaved better than another. Those who threw things, goaded and charged at other fans: you are a disgrace, whoever you follow. Those of us who are rightminded should not get drawn into a whose fans were worst argument; both sides had fans who behaved appallingly. For me, =#FF0000both CEO's have a lot of explaining to do. The way this whole thing has been handled is nothing short of a joke. Tonight was a very sad day for RL in my opinion and both sides should hang their heads in shame.'"
I think ours must be doing that now as it is very quiet on twitter from all the wildcats management
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