Bet you was behind the sticks at the John Smiths yesterday though

So on what are you basing your opinion that it is not fit for purpose.
Clearly I'm not saying it is great by a loooong way, but you seem adamant that it is championship level yet haven't experienced it yourself.

Oh dear oh dear BOJO42. We have had a series of narrow defeats to the best teams and now we are sure for the drop. I don't know if you noticed but there's 5 teams below us. I actually think you are just a wind up merchant. There's never anything positive. If we were top of the league you'd find something to have a go about and you live on the other side of the world! 17 years lol

TBF it's the other side of the common which is kinda in another world

Manni has again been putting cryptic messages on twitter last couple of days.

What's his Twitter username? When I looked, the account of the owner of 88M has no tweets and 17 followers (could be a fake account).

Better still, just post it up

@manniboss88

He tweeted 5 mins ago “make more moves and less announcements” or words to that effect

Isn’t that an announcement??!

Yes I suppose it is. I don’t think he realises in Yorkshire it is best to get straight to the point, all this cryptic tweeting with no apparent sign of progress just gets people’s backs up

Morning everyone, first post on the forum but been reading it for years.

Main reason for joining is i decided to email Wakefield Council about the stadium and wanted to share their response but I just want to make sure im not breaking any forum rules by doing so?

The way he keeps tweeting these little snippets of "wisdom" suggests that's exactly what he's trying to do. A few people have asked him to back up his "tweets" but he choses not to, make of that what you will.

The ones before that sound like digs at the club. "At some point there is no excuse. You either want to do everything to make it happen or you don't" and "You can't rush something you want to last forever" and "Even miracles take a little time"

He does realise that we have been stalled to a dead-end once before, and the RFL are less patient than he is?

I can't see anything in the AUP that would prevent you doing that (other than making sure any personal details are removed).
Others, including myself have shared responses from WMDC and Councillors in the past.

I'd certainly be interested in seeing your letter and the response.

Make LESS announcements?

is that even possible

Thanks Fordy.

My email to them was quite lengthy with loads of quotes from Council press releases etc so i wont bother posting that but i raised some key questions which are included in their response below:

"Thank you for your recent communication regarding a community stadium. As the Service Director with responsibility for Sport I am responding on behalf of Members that you have also emailed.

In relation to your questions I can confirm that

1.How is the Council ensuring this project progresses as quickly as you have stated in your press releases?
Officers of the Council have undertaken some initial work on the potential requirements to enable delivery of a community stadium, including specifications and footprint required, high level assessment of capital and operating costs, independent valuation of land holdings at Belle Vue and consideration of potential funding opportunities this includes funding from Newmarket Development. Further work is ongoing on detailed viability analysis including economic viability and outline business plan and undertaking sequential assessment on the site options to aid the Trust in its decision making. Given the ongoing and potential involvement of the Council in this project, it is in the process of establishing a new charitable trust which will be tasked with delivering this project and becoming the long lease holder of a new community stadium. I am sure that you will appreciate that a new community stadium that will be managed and operated by a Trust which will be home to anchor tenants has to be sustainable as a community stadium and run in accordance with the Charity’s Commission requirements.
2. Have Wakefield Council been in contact with Michael Carter in relation to the project since last year?
The Council has been in dialogue with Wakefield and District Community Trust of which Michael Carter is a Trustee in addition to this there has been electronic communication with the owner of Wakefield Trinity.
3. Given the obvious and publicly stated support of the proposals, what are Wakefield Council doing to push 88m and the project forward? The Council has been in dialogue with relevant land/property owners to explore options to purchase/lease of land/buildings capable of hosting the community stadium and on what terms and conditions this could be facilitated."

To me this reads as generic rubbish and next to nothing has been done since the proposals were made public in August last year. I wonder how much work was undertaken before the plans were released if they are still working on footprints and funding. I find it unbelievable/confusing that they state they haven't even got an agreement over the land with 88m yet.

I replied to this email last week and still await a response.

, it is in the process of establishing a new charitable trust which will be tasked with delivering this project and becoming the long lease holder of a new community stadium.
I hope you asked why they deemed it necessary to do this, when MANY years ago they THEMSELVES set up a trust to deliver a new community stadium..
What a bunch of........

I've sent numerous emails to my local councillors and WMDC and they have always shown me the discourtesy of NEVER replying. Response you received sounds like a lot of waffle as you would expect from our disinterested council.

"it is in the process of establishing a new charitable trust which will be tasked with delivering this project and becoming the long lease holder of a new community stadium. I am sure that you will appreciate that a new community stadium that will be managed and operated by a Trust which will be home to anchor tenants has to be sustainable as a community stadium"

That's the key to it all, I guess. They will work with Rodney's new Trust only, not yet established, and will charge full market rent, as determined by Rodney's Trust. Easy to set out terms that they know one party won't agree to, thus enabling them to blame that party. Now, remind me, how's that green belt land at Newmarket looking these days?

According to the Planning Portal the Determination Deadline for Application 17/03102/REM is Fri 02 March 2018, however as yet no decision has been made.
Is this WMDC once again employing delaying tactics by deliberately ignoring deadlines, or is there something else going on?

Devoid of the community stadium promised at the public inquiry!

Is it cryptic for "Actions Speak Louder Than Words"

Not that we know what the actions are!

It's all just background noise now - the various parties are on manoeuvres ensuring that, as Slugger says, they can make an offer that has all the appropriate optics from a PR perspective, but is untenable for the club; the club duly refuses, they throw their hands in the air and say, "We tried our best!" then 88M has free rein to do something much more profitable at BV, YCP can continue to develop NM without the annoyance of WT getting in the way, and WMDC can demonstrate that they weren't the villains.

Quite what SRW stands to gain from all this I'm not sure, but it seems clear that his replacement Trust is complicit, so there'll be something in the background to have greased that particular wheel.

The upshot - no stadium.

Spot on Bren.