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| Sykes is a fantastic player to have at Wakefield as he can cover 1 to 6, I would just be intrigued to give Lee Smith a run at 6 and put Sykes to fullback. Agar is the coach though and obviously see's Sykes as the best 6 at the club.
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| One thing I can agree with is that a priority signing for next season is a good quality HB to partner Tim Smith; easier said than done though - they are in short supply.
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| Sykes has played 6 successfully for us in the past so there is no point Shouty Shouterson saying he can't play there. Just seems another rant about a player for one specific thing (missing touch) without understanding what else is happening on the field.
Saying that I commented before that I would give Lee Smith a go and swap Sykes to Fullback.
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| Would love to see how things go with Sykes at 1 and Smith at 6 but lets remember Smith helped Leeds win a grand final playing at 1.
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| Quote ="les-goose"Would love to see how things go with Sykes at 1 and Smith at 6 but lets remember Smith helped Leeds win a grand final playing at 1.'"
So did Mathers
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Although Syke's failed kick was a sickener I thought Amor's loss on that 1st tackle on half way gave Warrington a score and a big lift when we were totally dominating.
There was a period at 22 - 24 when we also took some poor last kick options downs the east stand side. Lee Smith, Kirmond then Cockayne all put in poor grubbers, the last one giving Hodgson possesion on their 40 metre mark which then lead to the 22-30 scoring.'"
Have to agree with the poor grubbers. I'm of the belief that if you get into your oppositions 10 you must at least push for another set of six or force an error with the kick on the last tackle. We turned over the ball far too easily in the second half despite having momentum.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"There was two cock ups from Sykes, the shocker of a pass into touch when a try was certain and the missed kick to touch. Apart from that he probably was the most threatening he's been all season. Aiton was non-stop, although his passing from dummy half isn't the best his running game was good.
The worry for me is the forwards. Amor, Washbrook & Raleigh look way below par, Wilkes is average and is it my imagination or is Kirmond carrying a little extra timber this year? Annaklin and Lauitiiti apart out forwards lack punch and are getting easily dominated. The need to up their game sharpish.'"
Washbrook was injured (didn't anyone else apart from me and TRB notice the extra padding he had stuffed down the back of his shirt, and the fact that he was holding his back just before he got subbed)....Raleigh and Kirmond still not back to full fitness either...a run out for Mariano next week methinks !!!
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| You are just been silly now. Cockyne has much more to offer in that position I would try him there. Sykes has done a job thats made smith look good because Isac John was so terrible. Sykes at Full bk. He is not a stand off.
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| Playing BC at Stand off will just dimish his value.
He has never in my recollection played there.
His skill is his running game when at SO we need a passer
He isn't a field position kicker we'll still have to move Sykes back up on the last play
For me that is school boy tactics where you move the best players as near the ball as you can and sod everyone oustide with the worst on the wing.
Smith or Sykes at stand off. don't mess with the rest.
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| Quote ="FIL"Washbrook was injured (didn't anyone else apart from me and TRB notice the extra padding he had stuffed down the back of his shirt, and the fact that he was holding his back just before he got subbed)....Raleigh and Kirmond still not back to full fitness either...a run out for Mariano next week methinks !!!'"
He's looked injured for a couple of weeks. Makes you wonder why Agar seems insistant on playing unfit players when replacements are available.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Playing BC at Stand off will just dimish his value.
He has never in my recollection played there.
His skill is his running game when at SO we need a passer
He isn't a field position kicker we'll still have to move Sykes back up on the last play
For me that is school boy tactics where you move the best players as near the ball as you can and sod everyone oustide with the worst on the wing.
Smith or Sykes at stand off. don't mess with the rest.'"
This.
I bet even BC doesn't think BC can't play SO.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Playing BC at Stand off will just dimish his value.
He has never in my recollection played there.
His skill is his running game when at SO we need a passer
He isn't a field position kicker we'll still have to move Sykes back up on the last play
For me that is school boy tactics where you move the best players as near the ball as you can and sod everyone oustide with the worst on the wing.
Smith or Sykes at stand off. don't mess with the rest.'"
This is where I have the issue . Sykes cannot pass and his in play kicks are non existent !!!
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"This is where I have the issue . Sykes cannot pass and his in play kicks are non existent !!!'"
And yet he's a SL player and you're not?? Amazing!!!
From a quick glance at some stats on the interweb:
Played 276 SL Games - Points 1269
Played 6 Int Games - Points 24
Yeah your right hes gash!!!!!!c020.gif
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| After looking at the highlights there is not just one player you can single out. Tim smith misses a tackle they score off and another where I wouldn't give him the blame as damage was done before he had to tackle. Mellars misses one to let's Myler through to put ratchford in. Another Lynn misses. And another Ben cockayne yet again doesn't trust his centre and flys in leaving wing free. There are others as well but to single out a player for leaking 41 points I really question your sanity. Would suggest your really think before posting as you are the laughing stock of this forum.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Well done you come back with his goal kick points. Stat man. You really are a genius look with your eyes. Kinley bring nothing to the forum put cash in the attic back on thats all your good for
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Cut it out.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"This is where I have the issue . Sykes cannot pass and his in play kicks are non existent !!!'"
I know what you mean about the passing. He has certainly been better and has sent some shockers recently.
I disagree about the kicking though. We have a very good long kicking game and is a big part of our game plan.
The short kicking game is in question and should be left to those that can as too many are trying.
Kicking to touch....well I don't feel quite as strongly as you but he has done some poor ones of them too.
Rather than drop him I'd be giving him long extras at training to get that right.
And in the mean time I'd put Lee Smith there and Sykes to full back. I think Smith will bring innovation to the role too.
BC I'd leave on teh wing or put to fullback. He is an exceptional runner of the ball.
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| Quote ="PopTart" And in the mean time I'd put Lee Smith there and Sykes to full back. I think Smith will bring innovation to the role too.'"
Most of us said this before the game Sunday. Might have worked for us too ...
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Well done you come back with his goal kick points. Stat man. You really are a genius look with your eyes. Kinley bring nothing to the forum put cash in the attic back on thats all your good for
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Just for you; 368 points by way of 92 tries.
Just for the record.
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| I think your way off the mark her NG, just watch the highlights to see how influential Skyes was, he did some great passes and scored two good tries. Yes he missed touch but on the whole our kicking was a lot better than Warrington's, how many times did they kick dead in play? How many times did they kick out on the full? I think you are being harsh.
On another note, I still think Westwood dropped the ball so shouldn't have got another six, and their next try was from a forward pass #robbedagain
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| Quote ="18th Man"I think your way off the mark her NG, just watch the highlights to see how influential Skyes was, he did some great passes and scored two good tries. Yes he missed touch but on the whole our kicking was a lot better than Warrington's, how many times did they kick dead in play? How many times did they kick out on the full? I think you are being harsh.
On another note, I still think Westwood dropped the ball so shouldn't have got another six, and their next try was from a forward pass #robbedagain'"
2 forward passes, the first one was the short ball, followed by the ball out to the right wing.
I didn't leave feeling that we were robbed but, there we plenty of what if's.
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| I'd like to see the penalty against Mellars for the high shot. It looked like nothing more than a grab. Warrington scored from the resulting penalty.
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| Cokayne came played in the halfs all throughout his amature days, Although he was named number 1 for the robins in national league he played more than half of the season in the halfs - So theres more to that than you think. I think he would go well there
And what better time to give him ago than against a low division club this weekend?
However at this moment in time i would go with Lee smith to 6 - seems like a solid option and showed up well at cas in the second half at 6.
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| Lee Smith is a much better option at 6 than Ben Cockayne IMO. He is a very intelligent player and is willing to try something a bit different at times if needed - as per the little kick through on Sunday that resulted in a try.
I'd be happy to see him there and Sykes at Fullback to try it out, but putting Cockayne into the 6 position just doesn't seem right to me.
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