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| Well I'n all honesty cas should not have been mentioned at all. It's our study. Our plans. There should be research done into both.
And looked at independently to see where tgey are at re: time scales and funding, viability.
If he mentioned we were no farther ahead than cas or made reference to cas's plans it's still poor form and his opinion. As such should be disregarded with savilles looking at facts and assessment of areas.
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| If he hasn't done this then it's what I would expect. If its his personal team supporting coming into it maybe he should question his own role and position.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Well he should be reported. The meeting had nothing to do with cas or the council. Why the hell would Savilles want to hear about Cas in a meeting with Wakefield, Cas have their own meeting to present their case. Absolutely disgusting behaviour'"
It is not true, in fact it is absolute rubbish. As a council employee for over 30 years i know the workings of such meetings. Peter Box wants all clubs in the area to survive. How come we have had considerable help both financially and logistically. WMDC gave us mindful to approve.
I know we are all on edge on what will probaly happen come the 26th, but to start rumours like this is ludicrous.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If he hasn't done this then it's what I would expect. If its his personal team supporting coming into it maybe he should question his own role and position.'"
By allaccounts he wasnt scheduled to be at the meeting but turned up anyway and insisted on dealing with both clubs at the same time, ahem, all in the interests of saving precious time for the WMDC employees.
Youngcat, Its true!
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| Hopefully Savilles will have smelled a rat
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| Quote ="The Clan"By allaccounts he wasnt scheduled to be at the meeting but turned up anyway and insisted on dealing with both clubs at the same time, ahem, all in the interests of saving precious time for the WMDC employees.
Youngcat, Its true!'"
I will ask, but i do not believe it for an instance. He his a stickler for protocol etc and there is no way he would jeopardise his integrity. Believe me he wants all 3 professional clubs in the area to prosper.
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| Quote ="Fully"So you've gone from asking if anyone has heard anything (sounds like rumour to me) to stating that it was 100% true?'"
Get back to slagging us off on VT fully you big eared boy stop boring us
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Get back to slagging us off on VT fully you big eared boy stop boring us'"
Diddums.
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| Quote ="The Clan"No but they have recently reached an agreement with the Highways dept which resolves one objection and the LCC objection is now almost certainly going to lapse after the LCC reached an agreement with the Gov't regarding the development of Stourton.
Both of these things in conjunction with the new LDF are major positives in favour of the Newmarket development.'"
Everything I'm hearing regarding NM is positive and to be honest with Newmarket community stadium and AGs running of the club I think we have a bright future.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Hopefully Savilles will have smelled a rat'"
You really believe this guff?
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| Quote ="The Clan"By allaccounts he wasnt scheduled to be at the meeting but turned up anyway and insisted on dealing with both clubs at the same time, ahem, all in the interests of saving precious time for the WMDC employees.
Youngcat, Its true!'"
They should have told him to off back to where he came from then, saying that only a idiot wouldn't be able to tell what game he's up to. Pretty embarrassing stuff really, for the head of a local council, if true.
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| Quote ="Kippaxer"You really believe this guff?'"
I know it to be true but you seem to think you know better.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I know it to be true but you seem to think you know better.'"
You say he turned up and sat in on the meeting in order to deal with both clubs at the same time whilst Sesquipedalian claimed he was blatantly pro Cas and anti Wakey.
Are you saying what Sesquipedalian claims is true or just that you know he turned up and insisted on dealing with clubs at the same time?
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| I know he turned up to the meeting, for which he had no invite and wasn't scheduled, he took responsibility for answering questions regarding planning matters, for both NM & WR, which have always been dealt with by Andrew Thompson the WMDCs Chief planning Officer.
He wasn't disparaging toward Wakefield but did avoid painting the full picture regarding timescales and likelihoods of planning approvals because WR is likely to hold up Castlefords stadium build significantly beyond that of Newmarket.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I know he turned up to the meeting, for which he had no invite and wasn't scheduled, he took responsibility for answering questions regarding planning matters, for both NM & WR, which have always been dealt with by Andrew Thompson the WMDCs Chief planning Officer.
He wasn't disparaging toward Wakefield but did avoid painting the full picture regarding timescales and likelihoods of planning approvals because WR is likely to hold up Castlefords stadium build significantly beyond that of Newmarket.'"
If that is proven fact, then he should be held to account. At best, it was a clumsy and misguided attempt to fool Savilles into keeping both teams in, which is most likely to do more harm than good; at worst, it smacks of corruption in public life and warrants further investigation.
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| Quote ="bren2k"If that is proven fact, then he should be held to account. At best, it was a clumsy and misguided attempt to fool Savilles into keeping both teams in, which is most likely to do more harm than good; at worst, it smacks of corruption in public life and warrants further investigation.'"
Someone needs to forward this info to the RL presses and Wakefield Express.
Lets not forget how quick the documents regarding BV's sale status were forwarded by those over east.
With his connections to CT Boxy should be nowhere near any discussions that have ANYTHING to do with them/ their business dealings. For me that just smacks of a complete conflict of interests. Typical of that political nobody though.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Someone needs to forward this info to the RL presses and Wakefield Express<snip>'"
Precisely my point - he's a Cas shareholder and as such, had no business attending that meeting; in doing so, regardless of his intentions, he compromised himself and should be held to account.
First thing tomorrow, I'll be contacting [url=http://www.lgo.org.uk/making-a-complaint/these people[/url to make a complaint. I'd suggest that other people do the same.
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"While also steering the questions away from the funding problems that Cas have and also hiding the truth about how long it will take them to overcome those problems if ever.'"
Why would Savills ask Wakefield questions about Cas?
They wouldn't.
Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Someone needs to forward this info to the RL presses and Wakefield Express.
Lets not forget how quick the documents regarding BV's sale status were forwarded by those over east.
With his connections to CT Boxy should be nowhere near any discussions that have ANYTHING to do with them/ their business dealings. For me that just smacks of a complete conflict of interests. Typical of that political nobody though.'"
Sounding pretty desperate there.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Why would Savills ask Wakefield questions about Cas?
They wouldn't.
Sounding pretty desperate there.'"
If you read the thread:
Box turned up at a meeting between WMDC (which he was not listed, therefore invited/needed) WT and Savilles. And proceeded to talk about CT.
Conflict of interests, SL and RL is almost a side issue- this is essentially corruption.
Peter Box has been "deadwood" for a long time.
IMO you can't have a council that [ushould[/u be focussed on enhancing our city, when the "leader" is so intent on furthering the interests of 1 of the 5 towns we support.Coincidentally the town he comes from/resides in.
As I've said many times before; if it were up to me I'd leave you to fend for yourselves. Better still sell Castleford to the LCC an make a tidy profit!
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| Can you imagine this happening under David Hinchliffe?
I can imagine him going through the WMDC like Stalin before the Great Purge.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"IMO you can't have a council which pushes the city, when he is so intent on furthering the interests of 1 of the 5 towns we support.'"
You mean like Trinity Walk (dead) the gallery (pointless) and other countless things they've done when the 5 towns need drastic investment? They even CUT the funding for the new bus station/train station and prior to that cut the funding for improving the town centre in favour of Trinity Walk, so you can't say he doesn't push the city.
Oh and you don't "support" the 5 towns, Wakefield is 1 part of the district and the members are elected from ALL the district, as such all wards should be treated in an equal manner.
But because you don't like him he's the devil etc...when he's clearly doing a good job because he keeps being elected, right?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"But because you don't like him he's the devil etc...when he's clearly doing a good job because he keeps being elected, right?'"
But don't forget, he is elected by Cas fans, therefore he is the Devil.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"You mean like Trinity Walk (dead) the gallery (pointless) and other countless things they've done when the 5 towns need drastic investment? They even CUT the funding for the new bus station/train station and prior to that cut the funding for improving the town centre in favour of Trinity Walk, so you can't say he doesn't push the city.
Oh and you don't "support" the 5 towns, Wakefield is 1 part of the district and the members are elected from ALL the district, as such all wards should be treated in an equal manner.
But because you don't like him he's the devil etc...when he's clearly doing a good job because he keeps being elected, right?'"
We provide you with far more services than we collect in council taxes from the 5 towns. The WMDC has always been a loss making enterprise. Which is (one of) the reasons I would "cut you off", another being a total lack of loyalty to your "mother city"- People in Cas have no loyalty towards Wakefield, so why bother with them?
The Hepworth is a resounding success, over 100,000 people already. If nothing else it houses a huge amount of the only cultural contribution Castleford has EVER made- taking that and housing it permanently in WF2 is almost worth the money on it's own!
- As far as the bus station goes, I drive through Cas twice a day on my way to Leeds, it's never full! Even at peak times. If anything it's too big. The Hepworth is worth taking money from that project ANYDAY!!
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Why would Savills ask Wakefield questions about Cas?
They wouldn't.
Sounding pretty desperate there.'"
Peter Box insisted that Savilles deal with the planning element of both clubs within the one meeting, which had been intended for Wakefield Trinity on their own. The planning department of WMDC headed by Andrew Thompson, who have been involved from day one with both clubs, were bound and gagged by Box who proceeded to steer the meeting himself.
The full truth of Castlefords position was not conveyed to Savilles and Box achieved his goal of portraying both clubs as being neck & neck in terms of stadium schedules.
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| Hope Savills are professional enough not to be taken in by Box's antics and have gained the correct picture from elsewhere. Peter Box is a joke! Hope his days as council leader are well and truly numbered.
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