Looks like there was always room for the extra boxes with the voids.

It’s not going to a Salford type stadium is it big stand and 3 very small ?

The Salford stadium main stand is 4,500 capacity, we have plans for 2,500 in the east stand so won’t look as extreme as Salford. Remember John mentioning in a Q&A the other main development potential at belle vue would be the south hospitality section where we have space to increase again

Its just one stand right now.

What is the situation regarding the new pitch, is it prior to the new East stand build or after the build?

Good point

Good point

At presentation evening John Minnards said it now looked like November planning meeting

Flipping he heck the plans have been available for over year, you should know exactly what it is, have you been asleep?



So no it’s not like Salford because that’s all new but would it matter if it was? It’s still way better than what we have now.

As it is it’s one new all singing main stand to replace the east stand and the crumbling terracing on the North stand being relaid with lovely straight and level concrete.

So half the ground being brought up to scratch.

It’s a start.

My guess would be after as the pitch could be damaged during the build.

Yup, I think that’s fairly common knowledge. Working on the huge assumption that it passes then the really interesting bit is the build date.

The start date I’ve been given is far sooner than I expected but like everyone else I say that with caution.

Just been having a good look at the latest document on the developers planning application https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary Open link, tap document top right, click on 10th September, revised planning statement. There is a comprehensive list of subjects but number 8 to 14 I found very interesting and enlightening. The developers legal team really seems to be pushing the boat out to get their application passed, by using The community Stadium, Wakefield Trinity, the need for sporting facilities, the list is endless, also explaining the enabling development history, 106 agreements, Enjoy

Just been having a good look at the latest document on the developers planning application https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary Open link, tap document top right, click on 10th September, revised planning statement. There is a comprehensive list of subjects but number 8 to 14 I found very interesting and enlightening. The developers legal team really seems to be pushing the boat out to get their application passed, by using The community Stadium, Wakefield Trinity, the need for sporting facilities, the list is endless, also explaining the enabling development history, 106 agreements, Enjoy

There in black and white, hopefully they can't wriggle out of this one.

Yep. This is what I was told when I met MC and JM about the leaflet drop (the only time I have) but these things are not my bag and I didn't know how to phrase it correctly so I didn't want to mislead. To a layman like me, that looks very strong but I honestly don't know enough about these things to be 100% certain. Still looks good.

I’m surprised at the figure of £8.3 million just for the East Stand and North Stand upgrade. Seems at lo to me, but then I’ve not experience of costing building work.

11.7 The financial contribution demonstrated by the viability appraisal to be affordable of £8.3m is sufficient to fund the works at Belle Vue proposed to be undertaken by Newmarket Lane Limited (the works are subject to a planning application which is being concurrently with this application). and hence capable of delivering the financial contribution to the works cost. Newmarket Lane Limited will let the contract for those works and will be the employer under that contract. It is envisaged that the contract will be let in late 2021 with a 12 month construction period. Newmarket Lane Limited and its contractor will be granted a licence by Spirit of 1873 Limited to enter onto the ground at Belle Vue for the purposes of carrying out those works. The Spirit of 1873 Limited will fund and appoint the contractor for carrying out the works that it has identified as carrying out. Between Newmarket Lane Limited and the Spirit of 1873 Limited, the entire works package will be delivered.

Official notification that the club has/will pay for all the other work around the ground.

11.3 The proposed delivery mechanism is via a Section 106 Obligation which Newmarket Lane Limited, the owner and developer of the site at Plot 8 at Newmarket commits to finance and to carry out the redevelopment works at Belle Vue, namely the new East Stand, resurfaced North Stand, car park works and refurbishment of the Rollin Shack building. In conjunction with that, the Spirit of 1873 will upgrade the flood lights, resurface the pitch as a 4G pitch and install a new electronic display screen. Work on the floodlights has already commenced. Heads of Terms for a Section 106 Obligation to secure the construction of the redevelopment of Belle Vue Stadium are attached at Appendix 2. The works proposed at Belle Vue are set out in paragraph 10.1.1 above.

Now, this is something I do get. It's actually quite cheap. The East stand is not just a stand but the hub of the club. It basically contains everything, offices, hospitality, player facilities, corporate. That's a lot of extras on top of the main construction costs. If you knock off 1.3 million for the North stand and car park hen 7 million is not much. I accept the increase in capacity is not huge but that's not really what we need. We currently have a ground that is not as well provisioned facility-wise as Lock Lane ARLFC, so for 7 million, we get catapulted from the 19th century to the 21st in one go.

I think from memory the price for Newmarket was 12 million approx in 2008 but that didn't include infrastructure and that was on a green field site. In today's money and the spec updated you'd be looking at more like 20 million now.

What this does however demonstrate is just how much YC has got away with, we will end up with something but it's still a massive scandal.

Wonder what TRB thinks of this deal ?

It's a deal at least, when it looked like there was never going to be one.

Is the 8.3 million east stand yorkcourts total contribution to Wakefield trinity. I seem to remember hints being made about a new roof on the western terrace. Or will that be self funded by Wakefield and/or other parties in the future when available

I should think he's absolutely delighted, I'll ask him if you want. He's a pragmatist like most of us, it's not what we wanted or were promised but it is what we currently need.

Yes, there is a plan for the West terrace but it's not part of the YC deal and is on the back burner for now.

Let's be straight here if the East/North stand happens then that along with new floodlights, a new pitch, a re-purposed cats bar, that's more capital investment in 3 years than BV has seen in the last 100 years so we need to remain realistic, the west stand won't be developed for a while.

That's the sensible approach I would expect. Hull KR did their ground in pieces too. Can't say for sur but I think Widnes did too.
It would be great to just magically get a whole stadium done in the off season but I'd be happy with once stand to be honest. Pitch would be great. Anything else can be add ons as we can afford.

Shame about the WT, to be fair it will be the only section letting the ground down, but I suppose it's not on view, especially for TV purposes. Perception and all that.

Yeah I completely agree, what is currently planned will completely transform the club and will hopefully create abit of momentum behind the club. Which can then be used to push further on, and a plan in place for remaining stands is reassuring to know

We all know the old saying that money attracts money. The same applies here. At the moment anyone with cash to splash will look at BV ad wonder where to start, as at first glance the place looks beyond redemption.

However, a new East stand with car park and landscaping and a nice fit for purpose North stand and all of a sudden BV no longer looks a lost cause. A lot of people, especially those with money don't have the imagination needed to see what could be, why should they. Once the proposed redevelopment is done it will be a lot easier to get those people to dig deep for the next stage. It's not a criticism as nobody wants to throw good money after bad with little result, but when you can see the results smack bang in front of you, well that's a different story.