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| Quote ="Starbug"If it meant you not fulfilling your SL 2011 fixtures the money would be in your acc in a matter of minutes'"
And that could leave them with a big problem, lets see how they deal with it shall we.
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| Quote ="Starbug"If it meant you not fulfilling your SL 2011 fixtures the money would be in your acc in a matter of minutes'"
Not really they would find some other team to fulfil them (cough cough widnes)
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| Quote ="rugbyball"Not really they would find some other team to fulfil them (cough cough widnes)'"
Not happen , how would that benefit Widnes ? Having to get SL ready in two weeks ?
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| Quote ="Schunter"What would happen to the ground if we go into admin? Will it not be used to pay creditors? or is that only if we get liquidated?
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I thought we had sold it
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| Quote ="feline"I thought we had sold it'"
But supposedly, we're still owed half the money, due when we move out. Will this be claimed by the tax man, I think is the question that's being asked.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"But supposedly, we're still owed half the money, due when we move out. Will this be claimed by the tax man, I think is the question that's being asked.'"
Indeed. So this seeming panacea makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. Why would HMRC accept however much in the £ voluntarily when we have funds due for Belle Vue the minute we leave?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not happen , how would that benefit Widnes ? Having to get SL ready in two weeks ?'"
Well they will get the superleague money and have no real expectations to compete, plus a big increase in crowds and revenue giving them money to spend on their second campaign, so plenty to gain.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"But supposedly, we're still owed half the money, due when we move out. Will this be claimed by the tax man, I think is the question that's being asked.'"
so how much did we sell the ground for and how much are we still owed.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"Well they will get the superleague money and have no real expectations to compete, plus a big increase in crowds and revenue giving them money to spend on their second campaign, so plenty to gain.'"
In two weeks ? , no chance
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| Quote ="Starbug"In two weeks ? , no chance'"
Im not saying it will happen but theirs nothing to stop it. Widnes could play the squad they have as their would be no expectations on them to compete, pocket the money from Sky plus increased crowd money and build for the year after, perhaps adding a few players as the season progressed.
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| Same could be said of Halifax, Barrow and Feath- why should it be Widnes- it aint gonna happen.
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| I'm sure WHEN Widnes start their next SL campaign, they will want to hit the ground running, with a strong squad and some momentum behind them. Walk in now, with a squad assembled under a 300K salary cap, and all you can hope for is a few heroic performances. Getting hammered week in, week out, will soon disillusion supporters, broadcasters, sponsors etc. To suggest it as a serious alternative is ludicrous. If it comes to that, the RFL would be better off loaning Wakey the 350K to see out the season.
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| Quote ="feline"so how much did we sell the ground for and how much are we still owed.'"
Can't remember the exact figure, feline, but it's been mentioned on here a few times. Was it a couple of million, or 3? Anyway, supposedly, we're still owed half.
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| The club will fulfill all its fixtures in Super League of that I have no doubt.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Can't remember the exact figure, feline, but it's been mentioned on here a few times. Was it a couple of million, or 3? Anyway, supposedly, we're still owed half.'"
If we go into admin, like our debts, this income may also dissapear/reduce.
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| Were then shareholders not informed about the details of the Belle View sale prior to it going through (decision to sell, offers on table, terms of sale, agreed sale value, loans against future monies derived from the sale etc)?
In terms of WTW what is a "shareholder"?
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| Quote ="Walrus"Were then shareholders not informed about the details of the Belle View sale prior to it going through (decision to sell, offers on table, terms of sale, agreed sale value, loans against future monies derived from the sale etc)?
In terms of WTW what is a "shareholder"?'"
From the PR at the time the Shareholders had apparently given the board the mandate to sell the ground when the Thornes Park Sports Village was first mooted.
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| Quote ="Walrus"Were then shareholders not informed about the details of the Belle View sale prior to it going through (decision to sell, offers on table, terms of sale, agreed sale value, loans against future monies derived from the sale etc)?
In terms of WTW what is a "shareholder"?'"
A "shareholder" at WTWC is like being a blood donor. at Least once a year they will ask you to donate, you will have no idea or say where it goes, or what it is used for. You get a free cup of tea and a biscuit, and a well done sticker, then its out of the door till next time!
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| Quote ="rugbyball"A "shareholder" at WTWC is like being a blood donor. at Least once a year they will ask you to donate, you will have no idea or say where it goes, or what it is used for. You get a free cup of tea and a biscuit, and a well done sticker, then its out of the door till next time!'"
Quite funny for you, only we don't even get a sodding biscuit. Any further ideas on the situation re: the ground/monies?
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| Quote ="rugbyball"A "shareholder" at WTWC is like being a blood donor. at Least once a year they will ask you to donate, you will have no idea or say where it goes, or what it is used for. You get a free cup of tea and a biscuit, and a well done sticker, then its out of the door till next time!'"
You are correct, however you forget that your own club are currently asking fans to contribute towards their £70k needed for u18s academy.
Have you contributed yet?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"You are correct, however you forget that your own club are currently asking fans to contribute towards their £70k needed for u18s academy.
Have you contributed yet?'"
A bit different as we could run a youth team in partnership with the lions, however we want to be the best we can be so are running our own academy, hardly the same as begging for money to prolong the inevitable. We took our medican a long time ago, and have steadily built up. Unlike you who are cling to the golden gose of super league for dear life.
And yes I have contributed, I sold raffle tickets last week, I have introduced sponsors to the club, I have even helped arrange a sponsor for the Dewsbury Cheerleaders. So yes I do my bit.
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| From time to time many clubs appeal to supporters or whoever for additional cash for one reason or another.
Don't be so condescending!!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"From time to time many clubs appeal to supporters or whoever for additional cash for one reason or another.
Don't be so condescending!!!'"
Your club has been living above its means for years, getting bye on false promises. Its is time to take the medicine. Like I said before, our club were no better but we did what we have to. Your club is clinging on to the golden goose for dear life.
Your club is like a smack head, it thinks if it takes another "hit" of super league everything will be all right, when it is Super league thats killing it. Your in the wrong league for you means, simple as that.
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| Probably so, the rfl will no doubt see to that.
I have much admiration for your club and the way it goes about it's business, potentially they could well be a SL standard team if they continue to progress.
Much of the proffesionalism is driven by daryl and mark's tireless efforts, keeping daryl is paramount.
I don't however have much admiration for your terminology, and while we may well have problems, don't let your small team in Wakefield attitude, get in the way of your own aspirations for your own team.
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