they could dump both of us and they save face with the rest of the clubs

I just typed a long reply laying down the law on the RFL and everyone else who's to blame for our plight and the power went off

so i've ditched that idea.

So i've decided that the only way forward is from the bottom up, dust ourselves down and carry on, forget whats happened (learn from it maybe) and move forward.

If it does not kill you it makes you stronger.

Absolutely spot on.
Where is the sense in letting clubs operate like this, surely one of the reasons for this whole ridiculous franchise farce, was to make the clubs sounder.
But by removing the admin clause, and letting the crusaders do it, why not, it's parity!
With the looming image rights issues, it could well lead to many clubs, currently sailing close to the wind, in a similar position.

your power must be back on now so get back to it, or do some hoovering

It could happen in this case. 3 directors of WTRLFC are also directors of a Company which appears not to be trading. The Company was incorporated Mid October 2009 - Just before the first Winding Up Order

I wonder whether the tax man has a few more tricks up his sleeve before the franchise decision.

I don't know much about tax law, but I know that the argument is about rugby league being treated in a discriminatory fashion in comparison to rugby union. However, looking at it in a pure business sense, the taxman is a creditor, and I would have thought that it would be entirely up to him how he wanted his debts settling. The courts will look at it in a purely creditor-debtor context, not in a "that's not fair" context, I would imagine. If so, other clubs might face similar problems to ours.

Cas will be able to pay the taxman, because they have just raised a shed-load of cash, but every quid they would pay, the gap would grow between what they have and what they need, thus making the stadium harder to achieve, and therefore weakening their application.

In 4 weeks, we have gone from a bright future to ruin. It could happen elsewhere. And come 1st February, with maybe a new investor picking up the club for peanuts, and looking to spend the million or so it would have cost to clear the club of debts on things like players and ticketing initiatives, we might be going onto the turf at Cardiff with a spring in our step.

Although all of that does make it sound like I still believe in Santa.

so has this share issue stands could 1 individual come in and buy all the half a million pounds worth of shares as it stands and gain a controlling interest in the club?

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It's catching. It won't be just us going to the wall.

With respect to 'administration' and WT failing at the next franchise application, I seem to recall (I think) something about a vote or a directive regarding SL clubs not being 'blackmarked' at the application if a club entered administration ie entering administration would not affect the application. Perhaps I have dreamt this or it's just the voices in my head.


Can anyone confirm or otherwise this point - not the voices in my head bit!

Who is Steve Parkin? Says in LE that ted offered him his shares prior to xmas along with Jonathon France and they were both interested, but uncertainty over the licence put them both off

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People don't make millions by making bad business deals, and so why take on a club saddled with debt when he needed to just wait a few weeks and get it for next to nothing.

Lets hope your right Slugger, and he is just biding his time

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I'm not a business man and have a massive soft spot for the club but you can't but see what you would do in the same position, in a way I feel sorry for Ted as the future of the club is written

Correct. All SL clubs voted for this just prior to Crusaders enreing Administration. So in theory it wouldn't jeopardise our application. But then again I also believe in Santa Claus.

What would happen to the ground if we go into admin? Will it not be used to pay creditors? or is that only if we get liquidated?

The longer this goes on, the more convinced I become that this is exactly what's going to happen; anyone interested in the club has got no incentive to buy it now, pumping in cash that will be used to clear historical debt and allowing the current BoD to walk away scot-free. Much more sensible to wait a few weeks, pick it up for a song and see your cash go to WAY better use.

O Hara and Co been approached already.

The share scheme is the last throw of the dice to retain your SL membership , no matter what has happened with Crusaders if you go into administration or have to ask the RFL for a loan , your dead in the water as far as a licence is concerned

Already been there. They turned us down.

You mean the clubs asked them for £1000, cheeky sods.

Its not over till the fat lady say's so, and she's said nowt so far

If it meant you not fulfilling your SL 2011 fixtures the money would be in your acc in a matter of minutes