[quote="FIL":2f99cq8z]Are you asking or telling us ??[/quote:2f99cq8z] what do you reckon when its been the policy to retain players especially when its KR.listen if a player isnt intrested in playing for the club then we are not intrested in him are we.

One year LOAN deal... https://wakefieldtrinity.com/neil-tcham ... n-trinity/

One year LOAN deal... https://wakefieldtrinity.com/neil-tcham ... n-trinity/

TBH, I'd rather trust Powelly or Ste's judgement than any poster on here.......

[quote="God":2fa8jpsm]what do you reckon when its been the policy to retain players especially when its KR.listen if a player isnt intrested in playing for the club then we are not intrested in him are we.[/quote:2fa8jpsm] Fundamentally we signed him on a 1 year extension, meaning other clubs are free to talk to his agent now. KR are way ahead of us in terms of competing but behind us in youth products so are buying what they feel they are missing (although Booth isn't a product of our academy) and are an attractive proposition for players. I don't get the outrage really. He showed up well in the championship but never pushed anyone out of position, so why all the gnashing of teeth now. Edit - Just seen it's a loan move, so the noise will increase but it doesn't change anything if Booth was off in 26 anyway, in fact it means we have an extra body for this season.

A player who presumably has his sights elsewhere, perhaps wanting to burst into the first team a bit sooner, is released. Fine. We get a player who played for England academy and plays in a position where our star turn has a history of serious injuries. I can't see a problem.

So the Rover's winger comes and sits in our reserves for a year in the knowledge that he then returns to Rovers for 2026. Looks like an absolutely pointless bit of business from our end with a token face saver given by Rovers. Rovers shout and Powell and Ellis jump on the shovel

[quote="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo":25rz9nmz]So the Rover's winger comes and sits in our reserves for a year in the knowledge that he then returns to Rovers for 2026. Looks like an absolutely pointless bit of business from our end with a token face saver given by Rovers. Rovers shout poop and Powell and Ellis jump on the shovel[/quote:25rz9nmz] Booth wasn't playing for us this year regardless, and looks like he was off in 26 anyway, this way we get a player who can fill in on the wing this season should he be called upon and is a bit of a unit.

[quote="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo":25364xyj]So the Rover's winger comes and sits in our reserves for a year in the knowledge that he then returns to Rovers for 2026. Looks like an absolutely pointless bit of business from our end with a token face saver given by Rovers. Rovers shout poop and Powell and Ellis jump on the shovel[/quote:25364xyj] I see it as insurance in case one of our first choice wingers goes down (and that is always possible with TJ). Whatever the deal, we have a player on loan elsewhere, but perhaps better to have the one who can fill in better if we lose a key player in that position. I doubt they would have let Booth go if they thought he'd be with us from next year and beyond.

[quote="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo":3jmgo42r]So the Rover's winger comes and sits in our reserves for a year in the knowledge that he then returns to Rovers for 2026. Looks like an absolutely pointless bit of business from our end with a token face saver given by Rovers. Rovers shout poop and Powell and Ellis jump on the shovel[/quote:3jmgo42r] His contract is up with Rovers this year unless they extend, having taken Booth that's not going to happen, we can look at him and sign him for 26 and beyond

Booth has signed a 4 year deal with HKR https://tbrrugbyleague.com/transfers/hu ... sfer-deal/

Booth has signed a 4 year deal with HKR https://tbrrugbyleague.com/transfers/hu ... sfer-deal/

[quote="God":1n7s2wv3]what do you reckon when its been the policy to retain players especially when its KR.listen if a player isnt intrested in playing for the club then we are not intrested in him are we.[/quote:1n7s2wv3] agreed, however the optics could be better.. Particularly given the player retention policy... Also the 'loan' aspect of the move could be better explained, we are losing a really talented young player and getting someone on loan in return... That really does echo the Trinity of old, regardless of the situation behind the decisions.

as an aside... One of the things I dislike intensely about the NRL is that a player can announce they are moving on to a new club, 12 months before they actually move. As a fan I don't want to watch a player playing for my club who has mentally moved on... I can't cheer for someone who has made that decision. Now that rule is in the UK and I still hate it... I like that Trinity have tried to work around that conundrum - Myers in through a transfer fee... Booth booted out early and NT brought in.

[quote="Spookisback":18vh3g5d]as an aside... One of the things I dislike intensely about the NRL is that a player can announce they are moving on to a new club, 12 months before they actually move. As a fan I don't want to watch a player playing for my club who has mentally moved on... I can't cheer for someone who has made that decision. Now that rule is in the UK and I still hate it... I like that Trinity have tried to work around that conundrum - Myers in through a transfer fee... Booth booted out early and NT brought in.[/quote:18vh3g5d] Have to admit I really don’t like it either. A player can theoretically sign two contracts for two seperate clubs in one day. One for 2025 and one 2026 before even pulling on a training shirt. I’m really not fond. It promotes 3/4 year deals and 1/2 year deals come with risk. I’m not sure what was wrong with the old system. It worked fine.

I'm not too chuffed about this I have to say , feels like the Trinity of old to me . Whether Booth has had his head turned I don't know but the optics still look poor to me . The club have got most things right since Matt took over so it's disappointing to lose a young player like Booth who clearly has potential .

[quote="BarnsleyTrinity":g825qu5r]I'm not too chuffed about this I have to say , feels like the Trinity of old to me . Whether Booth has had his head turned I don't know but the optics still look poor to me . The club have got most things right since Matt took over so it's disappointing to lose a young player like Booth who clearly has potential .[/quote:g825qu5r] No-one who we want to keep will be moving because of money, however, as I said before HKR are ahead of us on the field so will be an attractive proposition. It seems like Booth had decided to go, and we've let him go early to secure a player we also have an intrest in, all be it on loan, to have a good look at him to see if we're still intrested next year.

[quote="Khlav Kalash":mt9bpxbk]Fundamentally we signed him on a 1 year extension, meaning other clubs are free to talk to his agent now. KR are way ahead of us in terms of competing but behind us in youth products so are buying what they feel they are missing (although Booth isn't a product of our academy) and are an attractive proposition for players. I don't get the outrage really. He showed up well in the championship but never pushed anyone out of position, so why all the gnashing of teeth now. Edit - Just seen it's a loan move, so the noise will increase but it doesn't change anything if Booth was off in 26 anyway, in fact it means we have an extra body for this season.[/quote:mt9bpxbk] exactly

[quote="BarnsleyTrinity":1ylx1szk]I'm not too chuffed about this I have to say , feels like the Trinity of old to me . Whether Booth has had his head turned I don't know but the optics still look poor to me . The club have got most things right since Matt took over so it's disappointing to lose a young player like Booth who clearly has potential .[/quote:1ylx1szk] Please tell me how you wuld have retained booth?

All true, Booth/Hkr a 4 year deal, Wakey, only a 12month loan deal. I like most of you are not kean on this prior 12 month sign on lever players now have, but it is what it is ! So, we should have signed players like Max last year, now we are in a weaker position, this kind of situation will continue unless we wise up Quickly ? It may not just be money, players like stability & 4yrs is very tempting !

I will pass all tour points on to millsy

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[quote="Start@1873":3s31h00f]All true, Booth/Hkr a 4 year deal, Wakey, only a 12month loan deal. I like most of you are not kean on this prior 12 month sign on lever players now have, but it is what it is ! So, we should have signed players like Max last year, now we are in a weaker position, this kind of situation will continue unless we wise up Quickly ? It may not just be money, players like stability & 4yrs is very tempting ![/quote:3s31h00f] We've swapped a player on 1 year contract for a player on 1 year loan. It's not that big a deal. The 4 years is nothing to do with us.

You’d of thought we had just swapped Dom Young the way some are going on. We’ve just swapped Booth for a younger more accomplished player (Yorkshire, England academy international) in a position we actually need bulking up. Let’s see how the lad gets on, he’s got all the athletic characters to be a top player. It’s a year loan in the last year of his contract, so I’m pretty sure he’ll be working his backside off to earn a contract with us, if it doesn’t work out then we cut ties with no 2/3 year deal hanging over us. To me it seems really simple good business.

[quote="God":26r8ytvw]I will pass all tour points on to millsy[/quote:26r8ytvw] don't worry about it mate... The majority of trinity fans have 30-50 years of heartache, disappointment, false dawns and empty promises. It will take several seasons before the slightest setback will not (genuinely) feel like the sky is falling. I'm sure we will lose more players in the future, simply because they want to move on... Imagine the furore that will ensue if Jowitt decides he wants a change of scenery?

[quote="Spookisback":18vir0bv]don't worry about it mate... The majority of trinity fans have 30-50 years of heartache, disappointment, false dawns and empty promises. It will take several seasons before the slightest setback will not (genuinely) feel like the sky is falling. I'm sure we will lose more players in the future, simply because they want to move on... Imagine the furore that will ensue if Jowitt decides he wants a change of scenery?[/quote:18vir0bv] I genuinely think a lot of people see that it’s Hull Kr, that it’s a swap deal, one a loan the other a 4 year deal, that Hull Kr have plundered our players for several years now. But the facts are Booth was already off, Neil won’t get in over Tom Davies or Joe Burgess who both are rarely injured. He has more opportunity in our team for sure to get a starting birth, with Walmsley untested at SL and Russell aging and still not played a competitive game in yonks.

I know your right mate, it just bugs me when they dont know how much effort, commitment and money has gone into this theres no bigger trinity fans than whoose at the helm now.