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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"If Bulls do get points back maybe AG was better going into admin and then MC coming in after. Farce.'"
That's what we wanted to do but the RFL said we'd be kicked straight out of SL so we had to sell half the team
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"As this,selected by the RFL,independent panel,cannot make the situation any worse for Bradford Bulls,could someone enlighten me as to who will have paid for the time and expertise of the independent panel members?
If the independent panel come to the conclusion that the RFL have erred,would Bradford therefore be entitled to compensation?
I apologise in advance for losing track of this saga some time ago.'"
If I remember correctly isn't it Mark Green I think he's called, the new Bradford owner who'se paying for it?
Don't want to be seen to be drawing other teams into this conflict/relegation but Salford fans don't appear fazed that we're only one point behind you so if Bradford do get six points back, they too will be a point behind you, and as a consequence you'll be dragged into the relegation dogfight?
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"If Bulls do get points back maybe AG was better going into admin and then MC coming in after. Farce.'"
Yeah , but that's the point - we would have been relegated , whereas the Bulls .......
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Yeah , but that's the point - we would have been relegated , whereas the Bulls .......'"
Absolutely and that is what niggles me so much. One treatment for one and another for us.
Is the fact that they've been in administration twice since we were lost on people?
I also recall the RFL issuing a statement that they would be harsher on clubs who chose the administration route or fell into it.
4 points deduction was sufficient for us and Crusaders a few years ago before the threat of a more severe penalty.
I genuinely feel for the Bradford fans, they are the innocents in this who are suffering. However the RFL have to make a stand and say that financial incompetence and lack of responsibility to their employees, stakeholders, creditors and the good of the game will not be tolerated.
If Bradford get their points back it will set a very dangerous precedent for the RFL and the game. All future transgressions could be challenged and make our governing body as useful as the UN trying to stop the 2003 war in Iraq.
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| Quote ="wildshot"Absolutely and that is what niggles me so much. One treatment for one and another for us.
Is the fact that they've been in administration twice since we were lost on people?
I also recall the RFL issuing a statement that they would be harsher on clubs who chose the administration route or fell into it.
4 points deduction was sufficient for us and Crusaders a few years ago before the threat of a more severe penalty.
I genuinely feel for the Bradford fans, they are the innocents in this who are suffering.[u However the RFL have to make a stand and say that financial incompetence and lack of responsibility to their employees, stakeholders, creditors[/u and the good of the game will not be tolerated.
If Bradford get their points back it will set a very dangerous precedent for the RFL and the game. All future transgressions could be challenged and make our governing body as useful as the UN trying to stop the 2003 war in Iraq.'"
They have done by deducting them 6 points, it's now an 'independant panel' who are going to decide.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Yeah , but that's the point - we would have been relegated , whereas the Bulls .......'"
Exactly (It was sarcasm btw).
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| Sorry....took it a bit too literally .
Five o'clock and still no news , what are they fannying about at ?
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Sorry....took it a bit too literally .
Five o'clock and still no news , what are they fannying about at ?'"
Making it look thorough and proffesionaly done?
Someone tweeted earlier that Sky sports news reported it could be two weeks before the Bulls find out.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Making it look thorough and proffesionaly done?
Someone tweeted earlier that Sky sports news reported it could be two weeks before the Bulls find out.'"
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| Quote ="FIL"www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11253944.Day_of_reckoning_for_Bradford_Bulls_as_points_appeal_heard/?ref=var_0
No guarantee of getting a verdict today -
"The decision is not necessarily expected today and could drag on until the end of the week"'"
As posted this morning !
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| Quote ="JINJER"If I remember correctly isn't it [uMark Green I think he's called, the new Bradford owner who'se paying for it?
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Don't want to be seen to be drawing other teams into this conflict/relegation but Salford fans don't appear fazed that we're only one point behind you so if Bradford do get six points back, they too will be a point behind you, and as a consequence you'll be dragged into the relegation dogfight?'"
Paying for the 'appeal', but apparently still owing creditors money?
I can see where his priorities still lie!
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| Quote ="wildshot"I genuinely feel for the Bradford fans, they are the innocents in this who are suffering. However the RFL have to make a stand and say that financial incompetence and lack of responsibility to their employees, stakeholders, creditors and the good of the game will not be tolerated.'"
That's the problem though. Many Bradford fans do believe that the administration was orchestrated by the RFL. If this has any element of truth - it's not exactly the firm stance I think you had in mind
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| Well if it's proved the RFL advised Bradford to go into admin and we were advised if we went into admin we'd be kicked out of SL this story won't go away
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| Are the RFL legally bound to adhere to any decision made by this "independent panel" which according to an earlier post was paid for by the Bradford owner?
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| Update from Bulls twitter;
@OfficialBullsRL: (1/2) An independent Sporting Sanctions Appeal Panel today heard evidence prepared of behalf of Bradford Bulls. The panel has requested...
@OfficialBullsRL: (2/2)...further, supportive information and is to decide on the outcome of the appeal in due course.
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| No news today it seems, the panel will tell them in due course
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Update from Bulls twitter;
@OfficialBullsRL: (1/2) An independent Sporting Sanctions Appeal Panel today heard evidence prepared of behalf of Bradford Bulls. The panel has requested...
@OfficialBullsRL: (2/2)...further, supportive information and is to decide on the outcome of the appeal in due course.'"
In other words, whatever you've claimed, prove it.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"In other words, whatever you've claimed, prove it.'"
That's how I read it also. Which is quite interesting.
The claims must be substantial enough to be taken seriously, although if the Bulls had proof, I would have thought they would have taken it to the hearing.
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| Ridiculous.
Have they not had sufficient time already to prepare their 'evidence'?
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| Totally agree, if they didn't have enough "supportive evidence" to overthrow the points deduction, then the result should be no points returned!
Sounds like the panel are trying to do as much as they can to give the points back.
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| Change the record!
The panel is independent. If they come back and say we can't have any points back then this is the decision. If they come back and agree the circumstances were a little 'dodgy', then you should ask what was dodgy, and why certain parties acted in a certain way. This is not a Bradford V Wakey fight - It's a Bulls v RFL fight.
Do you really think the RFL want to be proved to be the wrong party? They will not want any points handing back to Bradford as this will open the next can of worms as to 'what really happened'.
Trust me, the world is not against Wakefield.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Change the record!
The panel is independent. If they come back and say we can't have any points back then this is the decision. If they come back and agree the circumstances were a little 'dodgy', then you should ask what was dodgy, and why certain parties acted in a certain way.=#FF0000 This is not a Bradford V Wakey fight - It's a Bulls v RFL fight.
Do you really think the RFL want to be proved to be the wrong party? They will not want any points handing back to Bradford as this will open the next can of worms as to 'what really happened'.
Trust me, the world is not against Wakefield.'" at the possible cost of our club get real
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| Would have thought they would have taken every piece of evidence with them.
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