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| Quote ="Wildcatnomore"So you'd have him ahead of Lyne & Hall? I thought he did ok there, certainly better than full back, but not sure he'd be ahead of the two i've mentioned.'"
Currently, I'd have him over Lyne.
Although I only mentioned this as his squad position rather than a half, with there probably another half coming in.
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This site just makes stuff up.
From what I'm hearing its forwards we are interested in.
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This site just makes stuff up.
From what I'm hearing its forwards we are interested in.
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| Quote ="vastman"This site just makes stuff up.
From what I'm hearing its forwards we are interested in.'"
Do you know our retained list or is your mate the new coach still negotiating.
I am sorry but you cannot say Croft is the answer based on a few end of season games however if your assumption of forwards then he will have to be. The glaringly obvious problem is yes we have what appears strength in the backs but sadly five of them are wingers (sort of in the case of Lineham). We appear to consider Gaskell for cover along the entire back line, full back and stand off despite his problems with injuries. If we take Gaskell out we have two halves, one full back and three recognised centres, not a lot of strength in depth.
I guess we are going for a small relatively inexperienced but jack of all trades squad and hoping for no big injury list in the backs.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Do you know our retained list or is your mate the new coach still negotiating.
I am sorry but you cannot say Croft is the answer based on a few end of season games however if your assumption of forwards then he will have to be. The glaringly obvious problem is yes we have what appears strength in the backs but sadly five of them are wingers (sort of in the case of Lineham). We appear to consider Gaskell for cover along the entire back line, full back and stand off despite his problems with injuries. If we take Gaskell out we have two halves, one full back and three recognised centres, not a lot of strength in depth.
I guess we are going for a small relatively inexperienced but jack of all trades squad and hoping for no big injury list in the backs.'"
Nice rant, now whats it got to do with what I posted.
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He's been quality at Leeds since he's been back, I imagine based on his preference to be close to home and his off field issues his options will be very limited. I'd be tempted to give him a 1 year deal.
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He's been quality at Leeds since he's been back, I imagine based on his preference to be close to home and his off field issues his options will be very limited. I'd be tempted to give him a 1 year deal.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Do you know our retained list or is your mate the new coach still negotiating.
I am sorry but you cannot say Croft is the answer based on a few end of season games however if your assumption of forwards then he will have to be. The glaringly obvious problem is yes we have what appears strength in the backs but sadly five of them are wingers (sort of in the case of Lineham). We appear to consider Gaskell for cover along the entire back line, full back and stand off despite his problems with injuries. If we take Gaskell out we have two halves, one full back and three recognised centres, not a lot of strength in depth.
[uI guess we are going for a small relatively inexperienced but jack of all trades squad and hoping for no big injury list in the backs.[/u'"
You could always cancel your Trinity TV subscriptions if your not happy with the situation.
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| Would give hardaker a 1 year deal no problem - I guess the sticking point is he wants to be the number 1, with Max there and Shaul (maybe), that might be an issue. He's better than Max even if he is 'own of our own', and some wouldn't like to say it
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"Would give hardaker a 1 year deal no problem - I guess the sticking point is he wants to be the number 1, with Max there and Shaul (maybe), that might be an issue. He's better than Max even if he is 'own of our own', and some wouldn't like to say it'"
Was better, but another season? Probably, but it's an ever diminishing return.
It's a lot of cash to tie up in a position we have covered should we sign Shaul.
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| Quote ="chissitt"You could always cancel your Trinity TV subscriptions if your not happy with the situation.'"
I could but sadly the same cannot be applied to you Bob if only life was so simple.
To Vastman the post was to show that if the club believe we need to only strengthen in the forwards as you indicated and how risky that was based on our current squad.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I could but sadly the same cannot be applied to you Bob if only life was so simple.
To Vastman the post was to show that if the club believe we need to only strengthen in the forwards as you indicated and how risky that was based on our current squad.'"
Give it a rest it wouldn’t matter who they brought in you’d moan. You’re not interested in debate or you wouldn’t start with the sill your mate comment, you’re just a more petulant Kevin the teenager.
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| Quote ="vastman"Was better, but another season? Probably, but it's an ever diminishing return.
It's a lot of cash to tie up in a position we have covered should we sign Shaul.'"
I’d have thought Hardaker would play right centre. He’s equally good there or full back and I’m sure can cover wing too.
I’d only bother signing 1 of Shaul or Hardaker. Hardaker covers more positions and is the better player so if the money fits in then there’s no contest.
Anyway I’m not bothered if we don’t sign Shaul. Played well for us overall, good defence but limited attack and under high ball. I’m happy for Jowitt to continue his development soon to hit his best years too.
I’d rather we get a player with more utility in to cover the back line.
Someone mentioned Norman but I’d rather see Hampshire back or Abrahams given a chance to continue his development.
Appelgarth ultimately decides and even if we do sign some like Shaul etc I will 100% be behind them. Sometime players just find form at new clubs.
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest it wouldn’t matter who they brought in you’d moan. You’re not interested in debate or you wouldn’t start with the sill your mate comment, you’re just a more petulant Kevin the teenager.'"
That’s the problem it does matter who they bring in because regardless of what you hope we still need to avoid relegation in probably the most competitive season. We have released several experienced players and so far have brought in one who let’s face it does not come with a game breaking pedigree. It cannot be avoided that currently we are gambling on the current squad staying fit and finding talented players in the World Cup not already signed to a club and willing to come over.
I expect the club are prepared for this situation with other players identified but who knows. I like the thought that the coach wanted to sign a top NRL player do you think he will be allowed to or would the final decision fall to the board who would say no. He can suggest who he likes but he will get only those players the club are willing to stump up the funds. They may not make any specific suggestions but they will stop any they believe to be too expensive.
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| And so they should. Why would they let a coach sign a player we can't afford?
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| Chisset, either use the 'username' or don't use a name.
You know the rules and that is a serious one.
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| We don't know if league position will be important for 2024 , it might be other factors such as sustainability, ground , living in your means etc. We don't know what will get us into Grade A . Some have been thinking that teams like York and Bradford might get Grade A , well their position is worse than ours will be
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| It's nothing more or less than an opportunity for Wakefield to secure our future.
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| Quote ="djcool"We don't know if league position will be important for 2024 , it might be other factors such as sustainability, ground , living in your means etc. We don't know what will get us into Grade A . Some have been thinking that teams like York and Bradford might get Grade A , well their position is worse than ours will be'"
League position is always important but I’m not sure it will be as important as people think.
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| Sorry but my phone will not always allow me to quote a post. In reply to PT that is the point I am making the coach can recommend whoever he wants but the final decision will always be that of the club. They may not make any specific suggestions but the squad we have will be very much dictated to by them.
In reply ro Vastman i can only base my opinion on the current squad which I am sorry to say is bereft of any real positivity. This may change but we are leaving it late with training starting at the end of October. I suppose you have faith in their methods, I do not and I think the decisions made so far are at best questionable considering are we going for quality over quantity or just financial over the team. I guess all will become clear but Vastman you cannot assume everything will be good because unless you know who we are signing you are just hoping for best.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Chisset, either use the 'username' or don't use a name.
You know the rules and that is a serious one.'"
Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernel" I could but sadly the same cannot be applied to you=#FF0000 Bob if only life was that simple'"
Normally I would agree with you but as you can see from the above post from pimps he has now deceased from using playground insults like calling me foggy when he hasn't got a sensible answer to calling me Bob, this is in fact the 3rd time in recent days that he has done this, I could only assume from that, that it was acceptable practice to use a name hence my calling him by that name, clearly this is not so, so I will now refrain from doing so, one thing that does puzzle me though is your acceptance to allow him to call me by a name and deleting my post and none of his, is there now one law for some and not applicable to others?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Normally I would agree with you but as you can see from the above post from pimps he has now deceased from using playground insults like calling me foggy when he hasn't got a sensible answer to calling me Bob, this is in fact the 3rd time in recent days that he has done this, I could only assume from that, that it was acceptable practice to use a name hence my calling him by that name, clearly this is not so, so I will now refrain from doing so, one thing that does puzzle me though is your acceptance to allow him to call me by a name and deleting my post and none of his, is there now one law for some and not applicable to others?'"
Didn't see that.
Same rule applies.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Sorry but my phone will not always allow me to quote a post. In reply to PT that is the point I am making the coach can recommend whoever he wants but the final decision will always be that of the club. They may not make any specific suggestions but the squad we have will be very much dictated to by them.
In reply ro Vastman i can only base my opinion on the current squad which I am sorry to say is bereft of any real positivity. This may change but we are leaving it late with training starting at the end of October. I suppose you have faith in their methods, I do not and I think the decisions made so far are at best questionable considering are we going for quality over quantity or just financial over the team. I guess all will become clear but Vastman you cannot assume everything will be good because unless you know who we are signing you are just hoping for best.'"
But you didn't answer the point.
Why is that a bad thing?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Normally I would agree with you but as you can see from the above post from pimps he has now deceased from using playground insults like calling me foggy when he hasn't got a sensible answer to calling me Bob, this is in fact the 3rd time in recent days that he has done this, I could only assume from that, that it was acceptable practice to use a name hence my calling him by that name, clearly this is not so, so I will now refrain from doing so, one thing that does puzzle me though is your acceptance to allow him to call me by a name and deleting my post and none of his, is there now one law for some and not applicable to others?'"
Seems the poster has a lot of latitude
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| Quote ="djcool"Seems the poster has a lot of latitude'"
No he doesn't.
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| Connor going back to hudds I would say opens up an opportunity for hardaker at hull, I wonder what shaul is doing
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