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| Quote ="Smew"Negotiations are ongoing - its complicated and both sides are keeping their powder dry in order to get the best possible deal they can. Whats so difficult to understand about that?
Everyone who is even remotely interested should already be aware that this could be our last match at Belle Vue - anyone who doesnt either doesn't care or is so far detached that they arent bothered. You can't market a match as 'possibly our last one here' who gives a stuff about that? If you are that bothered bout being at the last Belle Vue match than get yourself down on Saturday, then again for the Million pound match if its still not resolved and we are actually in it!'"
No your right. They can't market a match like that. They can't market naff all.
In the real world though they could have made an effort. It would have been an excuse to get more people into he ground, create an home team advantage and have a bit of a celebration. But no that seems like hard work. Let's just slag fans off on Twitter.
I said this after popbottlegate earlier in the season. MC doesn't care about anyone but himself and his ego. The sooner everyone gets that into their heads the better.
Our club is dying a slow painful death. If it goes on much longer it will be beyond repair.
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| Smewyou seem to underestimate the level of concern regarding this issue, much like the club. I have absolutely no interest in what M C says on his Twitter account. Like he told the fans you will get the squad you deserve that just about sums it up regarding he will get the club he deserves. For me it boils down to why you you save a club and sink your own money in to it to completely go out of you way to alienate , and possibly alienate the fans and sponsors you ultimately depend on.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Smewyou seem to underestimate the level of concern regarding this issue, much like the club. I have absolutely no interest in what M C says on his Twitter account. Like he told the fans you will get the squad you deserve that just about sums it up regarding he will get the club he deserves. For me it boils down to why you you save a club and sink your own money in to it to completely go out of you way to alienate , and possibly alienate the fans and sponsors you ultimately depend on.'"
I have a lot of sympathy with what you are saying about how MC runs the club - but I do not expect him to do anything that jeopardizes the ground negotiations.
At the end of the day, we can only have the team that the finances support, but everyone who has been in charge at Belle Vue has had issues with how to promote the club and increase the fan base. At the end of the day, the starting point of any successful promotion is to have an entertaining and hopefully a winning team.
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| Quote ="Smew"Negotiations are ongoing - its complicated and both sides are keeping their powder dry in order to get the best possible deal they can. Whats so difficult to understand about that?'"
Clearly everything to the 'brains trust' who seem to be dominating this thread Smew! I just can't believe the amount of total horse crap being posted on this board by a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors.
When they are struggling with the concept of a 'deal' taking at least two parties to conclude, and in this case there are at least 6 separate parties involved, then you know you are communicating with a bunch of people who don't actually have the first clue about how these things work.
That said, if you could let me have your contact details, I think I might organise a late night poker session... I reckon TRB, Sandal Cat and I could sweep up and pay ourselves back some of our lost time we have spent on the whole stadiums affair.
I don't think any of them should bother buying a season ticket to be honest... while things are extremely difficult at the club and moral is at an all time low amongst supporters, you lot still don't actually deserve to support or watch WTW,
I am done here, because there appears to a whole load of local villages missing idiots!
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| The usual patronising twaddle from TRB and inflatable_armadillo slagging off fans who have spent years supporting the club. The way they go on there will be no need for a ground because if there is a team to support they can pkay in MCs back garden because there will only be the 3 of them left to watch
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| The usual patronising twaddle from TRB and inflatable_armadillo slagging off fans who have spent years supporting the club. The way they go on there will be no need for a ground because if there is a team to support they can pkay in MCs back garden because there will only be the 3 of them left to watch
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| Look, everyone is concerned about where we will play next season and beyond. I've supported this Club longer than most on this Board but that does not mean that I care anymore than anyone else - we all care.
The fact of the matter is that negotiations are ongoing as to where we will play and until they are concluded no one, not even Michael Carter knows where we will be playing and consequently nothing can be said. I'm sure the Club will announce something as soon as they know but as of this moment in time they don't so I'm afraid we will just have to wait.
Will tomorrow's game with Halifax be the last at Belle Vue. No one knows, it might be, it might not so if that concerns anyone get yourself down to Belle Vue and be there.
If this is considered patronising then I'm sorry but all I've explained is the facts.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"
Will tomorrow's game with Halifax be the last at Belle Vue. '"
As far as I'm concerned it probably will be!
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| Well said Sandal Cat. A straight forward direct message spelling it out for some people on here who just don't get it.
At the moment there is nothing to announce.
When you get some of the pathetic nonsense spouted on here by some people who are frustrated at the lack of news I am beginning to understand why MC loses his rag sometimes.
Let us focus on rugby and let the people behind the scenes put the jigsaw together.
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| Shame the players havent been focusing on rugby then we all might feel more positive about the future!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Clearly everything to the 'brains trust' who seem to be dominating this thread Smew! I just can't believe the amount of total horse crap being posted on this board by a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors.
When they are struggling with the concept of a 'deal' taking at least two parties to conclude, and in this case there are at least 6 separate parties involved, then you know you are communicating with a bunch of people who don't actually have the first clue about how these things work.
That said, if you could let me have your contact details, I think I might organise a late night poker session... I reckon TRB, Sandal Cat and I could sweep up and pay ourselves back some of our lost time we have spent on the whole stadiums affair.
I don't think any of them should bother buying a season ticket to be honest... while things are extremely difficult at the club and moral is at an all time low amongst supporters, you lot still don't actually deserve to support or watch WTW,
I am done here,=#FF0000 because there appears to a whole load of local villages missing idiots!'"
Most of them were in the south stand last night. Well they were until 5 minutes from the end.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Clearly everything to the 'brains trust' who seem to be dominating this thread Smew! I just can't believe the amount of total horse crap being posted on this board by a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors.
When they are struggling with the concept of a 'deal' taking at least two parties to conclude, and in this case there are at least 6 separate parties involved, then you know you are communicating with a bunch of people who don't actually have the first clue about how these things work.
That said, if you could let me have your contact details, I think I might organise a late night poker session... I reckon TRB, Sandal Cat and I could sweep up and pay ourselves back some of our lost time we have spent on the whole stadiums affair.
I don't think any of them should bother buying a season ticket to be honest... while things are extremely difficult at the club and moral is at an all time low amongst supporters, you lot still don't actually deserve to support or watch WTW,
I am done here, because there appears to a whole load of local villages missing idiots!'"
That post is way out of order on about half a dozen counts!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Clearly everything to the 'brains trust' who seem to be dominating this thread Smew! I just can't believe the amount of total horse crap being posted on this board by a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors.
When they are struggling with the concept of a 'deal' taking at least two parties to conclude, and in this case there are at least 6 separate parties involved, then you know you are communicating with a bunch of people who don't actually have the first clue about how these things work.
That said, if you could let me have your contact details, I think I might organise a late night poker session... I reckon TRB, Sandal Cat and I could sweep up and pay ourselves back some of our lost time we have spent on the whole stadiums affair.
I don't think any of them should bother buying a season ticket to be honest... while things are extremely difficult at the club and moral is at an all time low amongst supporters, you lot still don't actually deserve to support or watch WTW,
I am done here, because there appears to a whole load of local villages missing idiots!'"
Wow what a now typically pompous reply by one of the self-appointed crusaders for Wakefield. You should know all about spouting horse crap on here, take a look at most of your previous posts. Have you actually got anything right yet? You do realise it is not just the Belle Vue decision that people are cheesed off about don't you, but the whole 'we know something you don't' garbage that eminates from you and the club (and has done for years) reagrding Newmarket as well. Years of lies and bullcrap (no more so than recently) and people have had enough. Actually you probably don't realise and that is why you are now just as much part of the problem as anyone else, blinded by everybody elses perceived failings without being able to look at the bigger picture. Nobody asked you to get involved, if you don't like it you know where the door is as it seems it is nowgetting to you. Stick to watching the Rhinos and go and spend some time with your family, nobody will blame you you've tried your best. If that means the club dies so be it, your conscience is clean and leave usn keyboard warriors or village idiots to cry in our beer. But quit having a pop at people who give a damn just because it doesn't suit your agenda. Rant over.
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| The guys on the stadium trust are doing this for the right reasons and they have put in untold unpaid hours pushing a new stadium for Wakefield. If there's nothing to say on the new stadium then there's nothing to say. If anyone wants to be 'on the inside' give TRB et al a shout and get involved. I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.
Equally as paying customers we could do with knowing what's happening for next season and the club can get on with selling season tickets ASAP.
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| The price on MC walking away and demanding his money back if we get relegated this season must be long odds on.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The guys on the stadium trust are doing this for the right reasons and they have put in untold unpaid hours pushing a new stadium for Wakefield. If there's nothing to say on the new stadium then there's nothing to say. If anyone wants to be 'on the inside' give TRB et al a shout and get involved. I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.
Equally as paying customers we could do with knowing what's happening for next season and the club can get on with selling season tickets ASAP.'"
Right reasons and untold hours or not it is no reason to start slagging off concerned fans. It all looks nothing short of an utter shambles and even the trust themselves via Carter, Walker and the guys on here seem to have differing opinions of the direction. I was one who never thought Newmarket was the right location anyway so it never getting built wouldn't have bothered me but leaving Belle Vue to go out of the city would have. Right now the whole mess stinks from top to bottom and the longer it is allowed to fester then the more damage is done. To be honest it may well be beyond the point of no return already.
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| No one would blame MC if he walked away. The supporters could do a better job of running the club. At least it would be run by people who realise this is WAKEFIELD Trinity not Dewsfield Ramity.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Boy email I think like many you do care. You are one of many that have expressed the ßame view. The easiest option is to walk away . I hate the path the club seem to be on at the moment but I suspect like me you have trinity in your veins.
Frustration doesn't come close to my feelings I'm angry and totally xx off at the total lack of engagement the club provides. Owners come and go, players come and go . Every club has its hard core supporters Trinity are in danger of loosing a significant number of season ticket and loyal fans.'"
Actually the easiest option isn't to walk away otherwise i'd have done it years ago. Yes its in the blood, you won't find me in another clubs colours put it that way! But just like an old relationship that ukrimately goes sour the love just ain't there anymore and theres more enjoyable things to do with life than spend it miserable which is all this club has done for me! Some could never walk away and i tip my hat to them but for me there is no light at the end of the Wakey tunnel, i believe the club will stay up via the play off but it will be same old same again next year and the year after that etc, its time to draw my line in the sand. Be weird having weekends free to do other stuff.
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| Agree with everything said at some point Wakey are guna drop through the trap door and never come back what a bloody mess.!!!!
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"No one would blame MC if he walked away. The supporters could do a better job of running the club. At least it would be run by people who realise this is WAKEFIELD Trinity not Dewsfield Ramity.'"
Well go on then - the club is available for a quid apparently so what's stopping you splashing out - you really come over as an utter fool at times.
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| The ground position sold by Ted had the convenient on it where we could stay and play there until such time as a new stadium replaced it .
That would seem to be put in so no one (Glover elston) or any developer could harm the club or serve notice on it.
Carter in his wisdom has given notice !
Therefore giving up the option of any future benefit financially we could gain if we moved to Newmarket and given up our realistic option of developing belle vue and creating the ridiculous situation where we carnt sell season tickets.
We might leave with a whimper a stadium which for so many has so many wonderful memories.
And could have a castastofic effect on our clubs long term future
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Wow what a now typically pompous reply by one of the self-appointed crusaders for Wakefield. You should know all about spouting horse crap on here, take a look at most of your previous posts. Have you actually got anything right yet? You do realise it is not just the Belle Vue decision that people are cheesed off about don't you, but the whole 'we know something you don't' garbage that eminates from you and the club (and has done for years) reagrding Newmarket as well. Years of lies and bullcrap (no more so than recently) and people have had enough. Actually you probably don't realise and that is why you are now just as much part of the problem as anyone else, blinded by everybody elses perceived failings without being able to look at the bigger picture. Nobody asked you to get involved, if you don't like it you know where the door is as it seems it is nowgetting to you. Stick to watching the Rhinos and go and spend some time with your family, nobody will blame you you've tried your best. If that means the club dies so be it, your conscience is clean and leave usn keyboard warriors or village idiots to cry in our beer. But quit having a pop at people who give a damn just because it doesn't suit your agenda. Rant over.'"
Yep and you are typical of the no mark do nothing snipers who come on shouting the odds anonymously and in total ignorance of course. Why don't you just get lost rather than attacking blokes who do more for the club in a day than you will have done in a lifetime. WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE? Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
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| Quote ="factsareus"The ground position sold by Ted had the convenient on it where we could stay and play there until such time as a new stadium replaced it .
That would seem to be put in so no one (Glover elston) or any developer could harm the club or serve notice on it.
Carter in his wisdom has given notice !
Therefore giving up the option of any future benefit financially we could gain if we moved to Newmarket and given up our realistic option of developing belle vue and creating the ridiculous situation where we carnt sell season tickets.
We might leave with a whimper a stadium which for so many has so many wonderful memories.
And could have a castastofic effect on our clubs long term future'"
it's a coven at it doesn't mean we own it - hence what financial benefit exactly?
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| That's it from me on this one som have taken this thread where I don't want to go - this thread really is a new low.
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| Don't know why people are slagging off IA, TRB, Sandal Cat etc. They've done more for. the club than I and others probably ever will.
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