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| That kick was a killer - I was on the top floor of the flats and the wind was very gusty up there; as soon as he skied it you could see the wind grab it and change the trajectory of the ball quite dramatically.
He was one of the biggest threats on the pitch today - made a couple of dodgy passes, but isn't one of the players I'd be singling out for much criticism.
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| The last try by wire in the first half seemed forward. Certainly the players complained. If that was chalked off, who knows.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"The last try by wire in the first half seemed forward. Certainly the players complained. If that was chalked off, who knows.'"
We'd have lost by 1
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"The last try by wire in the first half seemed forward. Certainly the players complained. If that was chalked off, who knows.'"
I didn't really get what happened after they knocked on and then went on to score in the first half either.
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| Quote ="18th Man"I didn't really get what happened after they knocked on and then went on to score in the first half either.'"
Ref deemed that the ball had been reefed from Westwood in a "one on one"; correct call from where I was stood.
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| Frustrating kick by Sykes as i was in the old hospitality boxes. Kick looked good until it got over the top of the boxes. If he had kicked it low and flat it would have made touch. My concern was that at 22-24 behind, we had a spell of good pressure in Wires 20 but weren't patient enough to get the score. Which for me led to two quick easy tries for Warrington. As for OP, Sykes can't win, kicks 5 yards, he's rubbish, goes for longer when we are behind, still rubbish.Think he needs to give his head a shake!
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"A scrum half that cant pass or kick he crucified us today he must be dropped. Lee Smith must kick for touch as sykes is inept to kick a ball 5 yard what a PRO . Awful'"
And you sir are a supporter who does not or can not support. I wouldn't say this to many as we need all the fans we can get but I'd be quite happy for you to save yourself the trouble of picking out someone every week to have a go at and go and NOT support someone else. I hear Cas are after some more idiots to support them.
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| I would play Cockayne at stand off. Lee Smith at the end took the ball of Sykes and made 40 yard this is how brainless we are. 3mins left we took the ball off that buffoon and gave it to Smith and he put his foot through it like a proper man. Farting about all game what a joke. Thats what it needed a bit of Johnny |Vegas = HAVE IT
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| Apart from the kick attacking wise we played some good stuff today and as the there is already a defence thread suggest locking this one and posting your frustrations on that topic.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I would play Cockayne at stand off. Lee Smith at the end took the ball of Sykes and made 40 yard this is how brainless we are. 3mins left we took the ball off that buffoon and gave it to Smith and he put his foot through it like a proper man. Farting about all game what a joke. Thats what it needed a bit of Johnny |Vegas = HAVE IT'"
Cockayne at SO now you really are trolling or your pea sized brain fell out your head today.
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| Just when you think newgroundb4cas can't surprise you anymore he manages to do it yet again. You just haven't got a clue. Think you would struggle with Tiddlywinks nevermind rugby league.
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| Quote ="vastman"Cockayne at SO now you really are trolling or your pea sized brain fell out your head today.'"
If we want to change the stand off move sykes to FB and put lee Smith in where he played for half the game against cas and some time vs wigan and did not disgrace himself. I personally think the positives outweigh the negatives of sykes game. He made a balls up of the kiick for touch kicking too high in the wind and threw a crap pass which bombed a try. But he also kicked well for goal in the wind, distributed the ball well and scored points. All players make mistakes i dont understand why we are blaming paul for the defeat. If we hadnt missed tackles, if we had wrapped up the ball rather than letting them pass the ball would it have been different who knows. Whats done is done move on and get down the ground saturday and cheer the lads on again
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| Quote ="trinwildcat10"If we want to change the stand off move sykes to FB and put lee Smith in where he played for half the game against cas and some time vs wigan and did not disgrace himself. I personally think the positives outweigh the negatives of sykes game. He made a balls up of the kiick for touch kicking too high in the wind and threw a crap pass which bombed a try. But he also kicked well for goal in the wind, distributed the ball well and scored points. All players make mistakes i dont understand why we are blaming paul for the defeat. If we hadnt missed tackles, if we had wrapped up the ball rather than letting them pass the ball would it have been different who knows. Whats done is done move on and get down the ground saturday and cheer the lads on again'"
Most people are not blaming Sykes for the defeat - Just one buffoon who has to have someone to pick on and as Mathers was missing he has chosen Sykes to take the blame.
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| Although Syke's failed kick was a sickener I thought Amor's loss on that 1st tackle on half way gave Warrington a score and a big lift when we were totally dominating.
There was a period at 22 - 24 when we also took some poor last kick options downs the east stand side. Lee Smith, Kirmond then Cockayne all put in poor grubbers, the last one giving Hodgson possesion on their 40 metre mark which then lead to the 22-30 scoring.
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| I had Sykes as my MOM with Aiton 2nd, he actually showed some of his form from last season and scord a couple of good tries, movement off the ball behind the attacking line was very good, smith looked a natural at FB the only downside was we weren't as organised and I think we missed mathers for that. Thoroughly great game and typical WTW rollercoaster ride, should have won and bar a couple of confusing deccisions we might well have done, saying that I blame our defence more than the ref and you always play to the whistle.
As for the OP I'm not making a direct comment due to past warnings but you can safely say he is in a minority in his opinions
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Although Syke's failed kick was a sickener I thought Amor's loss on that 1st tackle on half way gave Warrington a score and a big lift when we were totally dominating.
There was a period at 22 - 24 when we also took some poor last kick options downs the east stand side. Lee Smith, Kirmond then Cockayne all put in poor grubbers, the last one giving Hodgson possesion on their 40 metre mark which then lead to the 22-30 scoring.'"
This!
Although someone told me that they thought the ball was ripped whilst Thaler hd his back turned??
The kicks were stupid play - brainless. We have 2 quality kickers and we had the wind behind us. We had the chance to create an opportunity or to pin them down near their line - instead we gave them too many yards, invited them into our half and that is where we come undone defensively.
Good call Wollo - although whilst we fell short in a brave fight-back, I still feel that we had lost the game in the first quarter when our commitment levels were dire!
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| Quote ="TRB"
Good call Wollo - although whilst we fell short in a brave fight-back, I still feel that we had lost the game in the first quarter when our commitment levels were dire!'"
Agreed. If we had started the game as we finished it we would have won, and comfortably IMO.
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| We looked very good when we were throwing the ball around, as soon as we stopped doing this and went back to one pass rugby we let Warrington come back into it.
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| He farted about all game kicking ball into touch Lee smith must kick from now on. 2 golden chances his awful pass to the centre that went into touch and the end where he kicked high so wind can get it. You people for real having him down as man of the match pure comedy. Thats why we are terrible you like to reward people who can't kick a ball into a stand. High expectations you all have. Aiton was outstanding today every right to be man of the match.
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| cOCKYNE IS FANTASTIC HE IS ALSO SMART I WOULD GIVE HIM A GO THERE. BEEN A QUALITY SIGNING HE DESERVES MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAN THE WING NOW.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"cOCKYNE IS FANTASTIC HE IS ALSO SMART I WOULD GIVE HIM A GO THERE. BEEN A QUALITY SIGNING HE DESERVES MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAN THE WING NOW.'"
Agreed he's been great - however in what way would any sane person think that makes him a S/O. You really are strange.
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| Lee Smith to stand off and Sykes to full back for me. Next year we need a specialist stand off to compliment T Smith as Sykes is a centre/fullback and has been most of his career.
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| What makes Sykes a good stand off please tell me? First half he randomly kicked it when nobody was ready the try he scored was a strong run a centres run. I think Cockyne would create and with a bit of coaching would communicate better. Hes a very good passer better than sykes he can make darting runs and can also kick the ball very well. Give him a go Vasty he cannot be any worse !
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| I honestly think Sykes is a really good player, just not at stand off, although he is obviously trying his best. We need an out and out stand off simples. Although I think with Sykes at fullback he would be really good joining the attacking line, and his defence is better than Mathers.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"I honestly think Sykes is a really good player, just not at stand off, although he is obviously trying his best. We need an out and out stand off simples. Although I think with Sykes at fullback he would be really good joining the attacking line, and his defence is better than Mathers.'"
At last some sense. Sykes made his name at fullback he isn't smart enough for a stand off we are kidding ourselves. Fullback he was excellent at London. I would give him a go there.
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