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| Quote ="Fully"Yep. Belle Vue was sold for what £3.6m or something alike to that? TRB will correct me on that I'm sure.
The Jungle is situated on valuable land, =redplus considering the size of it, offers much more scope for building on.'" so it should go for more seeing that its twice the land, so you should get around the £7m mark then
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| Quote ="snowie"so it should go for more seeing that its twice the land, so you should get around the £7m mark then'"
I'm not privy to such information, but there is no reason to suggest why it shouldn't have been sold for that.
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| Quote ="Fully"Yep. Belle Vue was sold for what £3.6m or something alike to that? TRB will correct me on that I'm sure.
The Jungle is situated on valuable land, plus considering the size of it, offers much more scope for building on.'"
No-where near £3.6m I'm afraid. Nor will your land either, which is substantially larger, but is in no more attractive an area - right now at least.
The problem you have is that your deal cannot be fulfilled whilst there is a blast zone - no builder will buy land they cannot build on - and as such Paloma (or whatever the American firm who own the Hicksons site are called) are in complete control of the whole deal.
You do, as I understand it, have a deal in principal which is worth a good amount - but unlocking that value is not easy!
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| Quote ="youngcat"Why all the insults because Cas have plans to build a new stadium. Good luck to them, personally i will delighted to have Britains biggest water park on our door step.
BUT i am more concerned about the progress of our stadium than our near neighbours, instead of attacking the Cas stadium plans wouldn't it be better supporting and raising the profile of our proposed stadium.'"
Quite right! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| good luck to them. Id certainly be going to that waterpark if it opens?
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| Quote ="mwildcats"good luck to them. Id certainly be going to that waterpark if it opens?'" me too I travel to the metrodome in barnsley once in a while
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| Forgive me there has been so much crap posted on threads about new stadiums that i don't know what's reality and what's not, but weren't the developers who bought WR wanting to backout/agree a new price for some reason? Also, a while back the Cas board were asking fans to support a push for the WR development to bring it forward as it had been penciled in for 2015 or so?
What happened with this action and was the first point rubbish?
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| Quote ="TRB"No-where near £3.6m I'm afraid. Nor will your land either, which is substantially larger, but is in no more attractive an area - right now at least.
The problem you have is that your deal cannot be fulfilled whilst there is a blast zone - no builder will buy land they cannot build on - and as such Paloma (or whatever the American firm who own the Hicksons site are called) are in complete control of the whole deal.
You do, as I understand it, have a deal in principal which is worth a good amount - but unlocking that value is not easy!'"
So how much was yours out of interest? Am I right in thinking that one payment was used to clear your debt or something? Too far back to remember exactly.
And the other info you say is correct. Cas do not have access to the money until C6 is cleared etc.
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| Quote ="Fully"So how much was yours out of interest? Am I right in thinking that one payment was used to clear your debt or something? Too far back to remember exactly.
And the other info you say is correct. Cas do not have access to the money until C6 is cleared etc.'"
I honestly can't remember the number - which is why I didn't put one - but I seem to remember it was closer to £2m.
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| Quote ="TRB"I honestly can't remember the number - which is why I didn't put one - but I seem to remember it was closer to £2m.'"
That seems a low figure, but I guess that's down to location and size again?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Forgive me there has been so much crap posted on threads about new stadiums that i don't know what's reality and what's not, but weren't the developers who bought WR wanting to backout/agree a new price for some reason? Also, a while back the Cas board were asking fans to support a push for the WR development to bring it forward as it had been penciled in for 2015 or so?
What happened with this action and was the first point rubbish?'"
There has obviously been a fall in land prices since the deal was agreed. Whether they can get the buyer to fulfil the deal is a challenge they will face - but only when there is a deal to be done. For now I would imagine it will suit them to work on the figure agreed.
So much to do - for both clubs.
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| Reports at the time suggested that Belle Vue had been sold for £2.8m, £1.7m of which has already been received.
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| Quote ="The Trip"Trying to compare the Metrodome with a facility that's on the junctions of the M1 and M62 , plus it's own dedicated rail network, also on a leisure site (Excape) that's already proving itself to be one of the regions biggest draws is truly non-sensical.
IF, and still an IF a facilty like is proposed comes to fruition on that site, it would inevitably be a major attraction.'"
But people will travel a long distance to an indoor slope as it's unique and there are very few around.
But on the other hand there are countless pools both public and private therefore people won't travel a distance to one.
As Snowie says - he goes to Metrodome once in a while - would that be enough turn it into a profit?
You want something that is at attraction that does more than tick the boxes set out by the council if you require more than a stadium.
The galpharm has a Pool that the floor can raise and lower depending on the usage so I don't think I'm being critical for the sake of it - it was costly and a mistake.
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| Quote ="Wadski"But people will travel a long distance to an indoor slope as it's unique and there are very few around.
But on the other hand there are countless pools both public and private therefore people won't travel a distance to one.
As Snowie says - he goes to Metrodome once in a while - would that be enough turn it into a profit?'"
one word
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| Quote ="Disney cat"Yet another white elephant of a swimming pool. It’s swimming lanes that people want not just small pools for slides.
Leeds (shut & bulldozed)
Castleford (shut or closing)
Wakefield sun lane (shut & bulldozed)
Featherstone (shut)
How the council can back this is beyond me.
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i know it is a bit out of area but:-
morley - being built
miggy:- pool with lanes
south leeds:- pool with lanes
wakefields facilities ? private only !
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| Quote ="chapster"one word
lightwaves'"
Just googled it - never even heard of the place
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| Quote ="Wadski"Just googled it - never even heard of the place'"
its the pool with the slides in wakefield city centre!!!
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| Quote ="chapster"its the pool with the slides in wakefield city centre!!!'"
Throwing a curve ball here...
Would the land that Lightwaves be on be worth more to the council if it was a retail park? Maybe a calculated move to an out of town facility could be double edged.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Throwing a curve ball here...
Would the land that Lightwaves be on be worth more to the council if it was a retail park? Maybe a calculated move to an out of town facility could be double edged.'"
cant possibly know the answer to that.
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| but no!
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| Quote ="Wadski"But people will travel a long distance to an indoor slope as it's unique and there are very few around.
But on the other hand there are countless pools both public and private therefore people won't travel a distance to one.
As Snowie says - he goes to Metrodome once in a while - would that be enough turn it into a profit?
You want something that is at attraction that does more than tick the boxes set out by the council if you require more than a stadium.
The galpharm has a Pool that the floor can raise and lower depending on the usage so I don't think I'm being critical for the sake of it - it was costly and a mistake.'"
Wadski it's a WATER PARK not a paddling pool. you really must travel a bit more.
It will create 200 jobs, not a couple of people with whistles.
In the Med and the States these places are huge attractions a large proportion are outdoor but many on the Eastern seaboard are indoors.
Look I'm a willycat thru and thru and our stadium is of the paramount importance to our club and it's future.
But i would be the first to congratulate Cas if they could double up with this type of development which would most certainly be a major coup for the district.
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| I would have thought that any developer wishing to build a Water park in the area would have at least looked into the Pugneys Leisure and Water Park as a possibility.
Its a much more idilic setting for a themed water park than at the side of the motorway with a huge shopping complex next door.
Like many others I'm wondering if this is another smoke and mirrors excercise by the Cas BoD and Richard Wright.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I would have thought that any developer wishing to build a Water park in the area would have at least looked into the Pugneys Leisure and Water Park as a possibility.
Its a much more idilic setting for a themed water park than at the side of the motorway with a huge shopping complex next door.
Like many others I'm wondering if this is another smoke and mirrors excercise by the Cas BoD and Richard Wright.'" they could plant palm trees to cover the motorway view
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| Quote ="The Clan"I would have thought that any developer wishing to build a Water park in the area would have at least looked into the Pugneys Leisure and Water Park as a possibility.
Its a much more idilic setting for a themed water park than at the side of the motorway with a huge shopping complex next door.
Like many others I'm wondering if this is another smoke and mirrors excercise by the Cas BoD and Richard Wright.'"
yeah ands a bloody nature reserve!
so you cant pile all that concrete on those butterflies!
wheras cas has limited wildlife that hasnt been grilled and eaten so its ok
good luck to them thoug, if its this sort of venture they will need it, trust me!
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| Good luck to em, bought time some good news came out of their mouth instead of their chairman spouting the same stuff over and over again.
We need something like that at newmarket, defo would benefit from a nice big family pub and I think they shoudl try and do a gym, the one in Rothwell sports centre is jammers most nights.... stick a pool in their too and we will be sorted.
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