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| If you mean that by selling our most valued players you need to sell less season tickets then you are correct. If you think you will sell 3000 then you are sadly mistaken. The product on the field sells season tickets and if the people think this is reduced they are less likely to buy and it becomes a spiral of reduced season ticket sales so offload more players. I would hope that an accountant would understand this and therefore I presume the rumour is just that with no foundation of truth.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Reap what you sow.'"
If we'd won something, or got close to winning something, rather than overpay some average players, at least we'd have reaped something other than CCJs.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Where has anyone read this other than on a Fans Forum.
We appear to have a swap deal all done and dusted on the basis of what someone has read on the Salford Board.
As was said on Monday, keep buying and renewing Memberships etc. and we may not need to sell anyone although I think we'll be looking to bring players in on loan deals.'"
I didn't say it was done and dusted I was merely asking a question. Personally I hope it's not true Moore had lost a bit of umph when he went to crusaders
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| Quote ="wildwoman"I didn't say it was done and dusted I was merely asking a question. Personally I hope it's not true Moore had lost a bit of umph when he went to crusaders'"
Wildwoman, I know you didn't say it was done and dusted but reading some posts you'd think it was a done deal.
In answer your question, in my opinion, its just Forum talk so I would not believe it.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"If you mean that by selling our most valued players you need to sell less season tickets then you are correct. If you think you will sell 3000 then you are sadly mistaken. The product on the field sells season tickets and if the people think this is reduced they are less likely to buy and it becomes a spiral of reduced season ticket sales so offload more players. I would hope that an accountant would understand this and therefore I presume the rumour is just that with no foundation of truth.'"
As an accountant I understand your logic. However if it gets to wages day and I have no physical cash, then where do I actually get it? If you can solve that one for me, I'm all ears. Anyone would think I actually enjoyed selling Tim smith. It was either that or admin? Take your pick
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| It was the right decision, no doubt in my mind.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"As an accountant I understand your logic. However if it gets to wages day and I have no physical cash, then where do I actually get it? If you can solve that one for me, I'm all ears. Anyone would think I actually enjoyed selling Tim smith. It was either that or admin? Take your pick'"
Has there been any noticeable increase in revenue since Monday DC?
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| A shirt sponsor has signed this afternoon. Have 2 others I'm waiting on. But this is all stuff for next year. Won't see signs of increased activity until tomorrow if it's debit/ credit card sales
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| How did the meeting with Sir Rodney go??
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| Quote ="Daddycool"As an accountant I understand your logic. However if it gets to wages day and I have no physical cash, then where do I actually get it? If you can solve that one for me, I'm all ears. Anyone would think I actually enjoyed selling Tim smith. It was either that or admin? Take your pick'" I used to know a printer that once did a batch of twenties, would that help
joking aside I'll stand by the club if you continue to be honest
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| I would not advise you on the finances of the club but on human nature. If you do not stop these rumours then people put 2 + 2 together and come up with 5. You are trying to encourage people to buy season tickets etc. To do this they need to feel some hope for seeing a team that can avoid relegation. They don't expect them to be pushing for the top 4 but they don't want to think that by the time the season starts the team will be so decimated they have week upon week of below par performances. I know you have wages to pay which I presume will reduce when contract expire in November but give them something to encourage them to buy.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Wildwoman, I know you didn't say it was done and dusted but reading some posts you'd think it was a done deal.
In answer your question, in my opinion, its just Forum talk so I would not believe it.'"
Cheers
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| Quote ="Daddycool"As an accountant I understand your logic. However if it gets to wages day and I have no physical cash, then where do I actually get it? If you can solve that one for me, I'm all ears. Anyone would think I actually enjoyed selling Tim smith. It was either that or admin? Take your pick'"
Cheers
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I would not advise you on the finances of the club but on human nature. If you do not stop these rumours then people put 2 + 2 together and come up with 5. You are trying to encourage people to buy season tickets etc. To do this they need to feel some hope for seeing a team that can avoid relegation. They don't expect them to be pushing for the top 4 but they don't want to think that by the time the season starts the team will be so decimated they have week upon week of below par performances. I know you have wages to pay which I presume will reduce when contract expire in November but give them something to encourage them to buy.'"
The encouragement is that we will have pretty much the same team plus some additions if we sell the season tickets.
Thats the incentive!
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I would not advise you on the finances of the club but on human nature. If you do not stop these rumours then people put 2 + 2 together and come up with 5. You are trying to encourage people to buy season tickets etc. To do this they need to feel some hope for seeing a team that can avoid relegation. They don't expect them to be pushing for the top 4 but they don't want to think that by the time the season starts the team will be so decimated they have week upon week of below par performances. I know you have wages to pay which I presume will reduce when contract expire in November but give them something to encourage them to buy.'"
What would you like me to say? Billy slater and Darren Lockyer are coming? It's very easy to sit there saying encourage people! I've promised them a club until end of 2014. Without further funds I can't sign anyone. Come up with a better solution?
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| You are talking to the converted who will be happy to know that the club will survive regardless. It is however those who turned up maybe because of the cheap tickets that you have to convince to purchase at full price. The majority are probably relatively new to the game or returning after a spell away. These are the ones you need to work on a strategy to renew. If you think that's what you are doing I say good luck.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"You are talking to the converted who will be happy to know that the club will survive regardless. It is however those who turned up maybe because of the cheap tickets that you have to convince to purchase at full price. The majority are probably relatively new to the game or returning after a spell away. These are the ones you need to work on a strategy to renew. If you think that's what you are doing I say good luck.'"
Not for one minute do I say I'm right. But you still fail to provide a solution? Your asking me to put the cart before the horse and speculate on new signings knowing I don't have the money to back it up! Exactly what's just gone wrong! What is the solution?
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| Im available Mr C
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Not for one minute do I say I'm right. But you still fail to provide a solution? Your asking me to put the cart before the horse and speculate on new signings knowing I don't have the money to back it up! Exactly what's just gone wrong! What is the solution?'"
Extra income or wealthy sponsors Too easy, ask me another!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Not for one minute do I say I'm right. But you still fail to provide a solution? Your asking me to put the cart before the horse and speculate on new signings knowing I don't have the money to back it up! Exactly what's just gone wrong! What is the solution?'"
As far as us supporters are concerned the solution is simple; [uthere isn't a choice[/u back the club or be as much to blame for its demise (short term or long term) as those you blame for your reluctance to back the club.
Vicious circle, catch 22, rock and hard place etc...
The choice to help right the ship is everyones.
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| If you want a bit of advice I would suggest you may want to temper some statements that could be seen to further destabilise the club. I would think the vast majority know where we are so no need for everyone to keep reiterating the worse case scenario. I doubt anyone would expect signings at this time but to keep suggesting that any player is available at the right price does no good. I hope you don't think that when they say on here that they would be happy to see the loss of our star players for the greater good, this will not last beyond the first defeat. The forum does not appear to work like that, as a player you are only as good as your last game one bad performance and the posts appeared asking that they are sent to Doncaster.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"If you want a bit of advice I would suggest you may want to temper some statements that could be seen to further destabilise the club. I would think the vast majority know where we are so no need for everyone to keep reiterating the worse case scenario. I doubt anyone would expect signings at this time but to keep suggesting that any player is available at the right price does no good. I hope you don't think that when they say on here that they would be happy to see the loss of our star players for the greater good, this will not last beyond the first defeat. The forum does not appear to work like that, as a player you are only as good as your last game one bad performance and the posts appeared asking that they are sent to Doncaster.'"
So by tempering some statements, you don't actually want the truth?
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| You can give too much information which is not a good thing when running a business even one like Wakefield Trinity. You are not being asked to lie, but not be quite so forthright by only highlighting the negatives. Why don't you say we have sold X number of season tickets or have X number of members in the weekly draw. Give people some incentive that we are at least making some positive strides towards the target set.
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| Any player at any club is available at the right price make any club the right offer and the crown jewel of a player would be sold.Lets face facts in our position with money tight its more so that the right offer would be taken for any player.To survive as a club we need to move forward and if that means selling a couple of players so be it and yes it wont be good for ticket sales etc but thats where we are at this moment in time.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"You can give too much information which is not a good thing when running a business even one like Wakefield Trinity. You are not being asked to lie, but not be quite so forthright by only highlighting the negatives. Why don't you say we have sold X number of season tickets or have X number of members in the weekly draw. Give people some incentive that we are at least making some positive strides towards the target set.'"
MC stated on Monday that if fans back the club and buy season tickets (at least 3000) then we don't have to sell players. I'd agree that letting people know that we are getting closer helps generate momentum, however (and I don't know how many we have sold) if the announcement is that since the rallying call we've sold 10 more Season tickets, that doesn't help anybody.
By now everyone on here knows the score, we just need to pass the message onto those who weren't at the meetin or don't frequent message boards etc. Buying your tickets is the only way to guarantee you'll have those players in your team come February. Sugar coating it doesn't help. It's a FACT!
Season ticket sales are the only thing that is going to help us retain our players! (unless someone wins the Euromillions!)
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