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Quote ="MatthewTrin"My question is, who is the independent auditor that checks these fact checkers?
Another question to consider, as a "charity" who are the list of donors to this company?'"
This may answer a few questions.
https://jonsnewplace.wordpress.com/2020 ... -checkers/
Newsguard is a browser plug-in for Chrome and Microsoft Edge that gives trustworthiness ratings to most of the internet’s top-trafficked sites. It uses a color coded system to warn readers of an article or website’s trustworthiness. In a previous investigation, TLAV writer Whitney Webb exposed the neoconservative roots of the Newsguard team. Webb wrote:
“Newsguard’s advisory board makes it clear that Newsguard was created to serve the interests of American oligarchy. Chief among Newsguard’s advisors are Tom Ridge, the first Secretary of Homeland Security under George W. Bush and Ret. General Michael Hayden, a former CIA director, a former NSA director and principal at the Chertoff Group, a security consultancy seeking to “advise corporate clients and governments, including foreign governments” on security matters that was co-founded by former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who also currently serves as the board chairman of major weapons manufacturer BAE systems.”
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Quote ="MatthewTrin"My question is, who is the independent auditor that checks these fact checkers?
Another question to consider, as a "charity" who are the list of donors to this company?'"
This may answer a few questions.
https://jonsnewplace.wordpress.com/2020 ... -checkers/
Newsguard is a browser plug-in for Chrome and Microsoft Edge that gives trustworthiness ratings to most of the internet’s top-trafficked sites. It uses a color coded system to warn readers of an article or website’s trustworthiness. In a previous investigation, TLAV writer Whitney Webb exposed the neoconservative roots of the Newsguard team. Webb wrote:
“Newsguard’s advisory board makes it clear that Newsguard was created to serve the interests of American oligarchy. Chief among Newsguard’s advisors are Tom Ridge, the first Secretary of Homeland Security under George W. Bush and Ret. General Michael Hayden, a former CIA director, a former NSA director and principal at the Chertoff Group, a security consultancy seeking to “advise corporate clients and governments, including foreign governments” on security matters that was co-founded by former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who also currently serves as the board chairman of major weapons manufacturer BAE systems.”
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Hi Miro
Theres nothing to prevent government (secretary of state for whatever....)being the ultimate holding company of a limited company or becoming a shareholder in a limited company (example Lloyds Bank).
So with Porton Biopharma 100% of shares are allocated to Secretary of State for Health.
Highways England - 100% of shares are allocated to Secretary of State for Transport.
Porton Biopharma is just one company of the group,including NHS Property Services Ltd and Community Health Partnership Limited,but ultimately all feed back into the ultimate holding company - Secretary of State for Health (Government).
Not sure if that helps or confuses..
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A bit of both lol. Thanks though, I'll get my brain on it tomorrow.
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| Just seen a video going round on Twitter of the police getting attacked by those wanting to “DEFEND” the cenotaph. Well well well.
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| Videos of white men doing Nazi salutes in front of Churchill’s statue. Oh dear.
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| Meanwhile the official BLM March was called off - presumably to avoid conflict at a guess.
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| And in India, people dying from the "fake" virus, as the hospitals are over run and can treat no more people. It's all fake news though
There are different opinions on how the world should have handled this and there are certainly self serving politicians but, to claim that all of this is fake or some conspiracy to try and "control the masses" is just not correct.
Still awaiting any explanation for the increased "excess" deaths around the world, other than covid19. ??
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| Quote ="Willzay"https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1271789069639483394?s=21'"
What is their "beef" are they saying that black lives dont matter ?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Just seen a video going round on Twitter of the police getting attacked by those wanting to “DEFEND” the cenotaph. Well well well.'"
Police stuck in the middle again. Lunatics from both sides. Put the lot of em in a field and leave em to it.
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| Quote ="MatthewTrin"But they still allow people to debate nonsense like the existence of the Lockness Monster or a Flat Earth. Unbelievable.
Wish Julian Assange was still on the scene so we could expose this lot.'"
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| If anyone wants to dispute those figures they put out, the causes of death etc and the whole scam listen to this NY Nurse. On the u know what tube.
NOT for the feint hearted. And quick, it is getting pulled faster than people can put it up.
And before anyone calls her out, she does not dispute there is a illness named covid_19, as I don't.
Perspectives on the Pandemic | The (Undercover) Epi Nurse | Episode Nine
Journeyman Pictures
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Erin Marie Olszewski is a Nurse-turned-investigative journalist, who has spent the last few months on the frontlines of the coronavirus pandemic, on the inside in two radically different settings. Two hospitals. One private, the other public. One in Florida, the other in New York.
And not just any New York public hospital, but the "epi of the epi" itself, the infamous Elmhurst in Donald Trump's Queens. As a result of these diametrically opposed experiences, she has the ultimate "perspective on the pandemic". She has been where there have been the most deaths attributed to Covid-19 and where there have been the least.
Erin enlisted in the Army when she was 17. She deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003. Part of her duties involved overseeing aid disbursement and improvements to hospital facilities. While in country she received the Army Commendation Medal for meritorious service, and was wounded in combat. Erin eventually retired as a sergeant, and became a civilian nurse in 2012.
Erin is a medical freedom and informed consent advocate. She co-founded the Florida Freedom Alliance but no longer has any connection with the organization.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"And in India, people dying from the "fake" virus, as the hospitals are over run and can treat no more people. It's all fake news though
There are different opinions on how the world should have handled this and there are certainly self serving politicians but, to claim that all of this is fake or some conspiracy to try and "control the masses" is just not correct.
Still awaiting any explanation for the increased "excess" deaths around the world, other than covid19. ??'"
Ok Wrencat1873, see my previous post. It will tell you all you need to know and more.
Erin Marie Olszewski is a Nurse-turned-investigative journalist, who has spent the last few months on the frontlines of the coronavirus "pandemic", on the inside in two radically different settings. Two hospitals. One private, the other public. One in Florida, the other in New York.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"And in India, people dying from the "fake" virus, as the hospitals are over run and can treat no more people. It's all fake news though
There are different opinions on how the world should have handled this and there are certainly self serving politicians but, to claim that all of this is fake or some conspiracy to try and "control the masses" is just not correct.
Still awaiting any explanation for the increased "excess" deaths around the world, other than covid19. ??'"
Who on this thread is claiming this virus is fake? No one is disputing the existence of the virus but rather the handling of it. It's a fake pandemic propped up by the mainstream media, celebrities, multi national corporations and politicians.
As for India, lets compare this to the UK.
UK population - 67,868,549
UK total COVID cases - 294,375
UK Deaths - 41,662
UK Deaths per 1M - 614
India population - 1,379,307,780
India total COVID cases - 317,368
India Deaths - 9,109
India Deaths per 1M - 7
That's 7 deaths per 1 million people! Nothing alarms me about that figure to shut down the economy and to run for the hills in fear. In fact the UK are doing far worst than India.
Excess deaths are easily explainable
1) Ending emergency treatment - Health care capacity was idiotically reduced. Typically it runs between 80-95% capacity all year round. As you can imagine they are dealing with "saving the lives" of some very sick and vulnerable people. In addition most A&E departments are swamped with new patients 24/7 365 days a year. At the beginning of the lockdown the aim by the so called top boffins was to "protect the NHS". In practice this meant chucking half of the very sick people back into their homes to die alone or for the sick elderly back into a care home. This awful policy helped reduce the NHS capacity by 40%, thus allowing a vast sum of people to die by refusing to treat any new sick people that didn't relate to COVID19 symptoms. Furthermore the elderly too sick to go back home were encouraged to sign a 'do not resuscitate form' so the hospital staff could spend time and resource on caring for the "young sufferers". No large sums of young people ever went to hospital as any sensible doctor knows that young people don't suffer complications with this virus. Note 57% of the total COVID deaths relate to people registered to care homes. How the MSM love to push their agenda to protect the establishment by focusing on the "racist virus" that disappointingly targets the BAEM Society over "White Privileged" people. This is the same MSM that take money from the Government to cover up their scandalous behavior.
2) Over treatment - Italy and Chinese doctors were spreading incorrect information regarding ventilators. Remember the headlines "get ready, make ventilators" all fake news and the hospitals bought into it. Ventilators it turns out are extremely dangerous as they only give a patient 34% survival rate.
3) Care homes and hospitals were ill prepared and historically aren't clean. Remember the scandals over the recent years regarding MRSA and the norovirus? The same problem occurred with COVID, patients being admitted to hospital with other serious illnesses were contracting the virus in the hospitals. These places are a breeding ground for disease. In closer quarters viral loads spread far greater between doctors, nurses and patients than in any other setting. This problem was compounded by the initial lack of PPE that helped spread the virus rife through hosiptals and care homes. The lack of PPE was caused by the NHS setting up a private arm to profit from the sale of millions of PPE overseas. So much for "Sir" Matt Hancocks pledge to "save lives".
4) You do realise the COVID figurs are exaggerated? The actual number of people in England and Wales that have died in hospitals specially of COVID19 in reality is 1,318. The other deaths were recorded as dying in hospital with recorded comorbidities on their file and also having being tested positive for the infection and not necessarily the disease . If you rewind back to the 2017/18 (Dec to Mar) winter season there was over 50,000 excess deaths for this period. That was achieved without hospital and surgery closures and was later blamed on the seasonal flu that killed 26,000 people in England alone. Imagine if they closed the hospitals the excess deaths for this period could have doubled. Imagine if they'd done some serious testing on the scale of COVID testing. I'm sure with a few multiple testing kits they could have doubled it to 52,000 flu deaths by tracing for a fragment of the infection. Where was the outrage from you back then?
5) Seasonal Flu 2019/20 5 year low - 8,000 deaths were recorded as deaths with flu complications. This effectively allowed a carry over of potential targets of the flu to instead become a target for the deadlier COVID19. With COVID we don't obviously have an effective vaccine which puts those vaccinated by the flu at a much higher risk.
Miro can you add to this as you appear more knowledgeable on the data than me?
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Wish Julian Assange was still on the scene so we could expose this lot.'"
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| Quote ="Willzay"Meanwhile the official BLM March was called off - presumably to avoid conflict at a guess.'"
Poor old BLM. He gets blamed for everything. Ne'er mind, BLM, the season will be kicking off again soon.
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| My simplified way of viewing the protests; bigoted people who are claiming to be fascists are wolves and the bigoted people that are claiming to be anti fascists are wolves in sheep clothing. Essentially they are just two heads of the same monster.
The mainstream medias role is prodding the cattle into civil war. and "elections". All whilst they pay homage to the political establishment. They are laughing all the way to the Bank.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Poor old BLM. He gets blamed for everything. Ne'er mind, BLM, the season will be kicking off again soon.'"
Wondered how long it would take I’ve been blamed for worse
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| Quote ="Miro"Ok Wrencat1873, see my previous post. It will tell you all you need to know and more.
Erin Marie Olszewski is a Nurse-turned-investigative journalist, who has spent the last few months on the frontlines of the coronavirus "pandemic", on the inside in two radically different settings. Two hospitals. One private, the other public. One in Florida, the other in New York.'"
Go watch Dr James Todaro on Youtube, more overwhelming evidence to support the WHO is the most corruptible organisation in the World.
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Victim let down by the system? Because too much time had elapsed since the event? He should have been dragged out of his bolt hole straight away and proved his innocence.
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Victim let down by the system? Because too much time had elapsed since the event? He should have been dragged out of his bolt hole straight away and proved his innocence.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Victim let down by the system? Because too much time had elapsed since the event? He should have been dragged out of his bolt hole straight away and proved his innocence.'"
So much for innocent until proven guilty
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| I still don't see your point.
You are effectively saying most of the major countries in the world, the media in each of those countries, major businesses from different countries and the opposing politicians in each country are all getting together to keep us frightened and submissive?
And a couple of people on RLFans, a nurse in NY who is now a journalist, and a couple of UK doctors.... And I assume some others I've missed know the secret.
All I can say is it hasn't worked. I'm still working. My wife is supported financially by the government who is trying to frighten my, the air is cleaner and I don't have to put up with people who don't understand personal space.
The downside is, no sport, no holidays for a few months. Apart from all the crap I've bought from Amazon I've saved money and NRL has started to the sport bit hurts slightly less.
Whether you are right or wrong the same number of people have died whether someone has mislabelled the deaths or not.
What's the point of the conspiracy?
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| Quote ="PopTart"I still don't see your point.
What's the point of the conspiracy?'"
That's the killer question, Pop Tart. All the conspiracy nutjobs the world over (and they are nutjobs) can give you a million and one conspiracies, but not one of them can give you a viable end result for the conspiracy.
Just what is the endgame for the Covid-19 conspiracy? Is Bill Gates planning to wipe out the entire world with his vaccine, except for himself and his family, of course, so they can all blissfully use Windows operating systems without interference from Apple or Android?
Maybe David Icke's 'lizard people' have introduced it to get rid of the people who were getting too wise to their shape-shifting ways? Isn't the Queen supposed to be a shape-shifting lizard person? Maybe it's Liz's doing?
George Soros MUST be involved somewhere. Maybe he's trying to crash the world's economies so he can add even more billions to his billions.
And we haven't even touched on Jeff Bezos! Keep people in lockdown until they're all retail slaves to Amazon.
The thing about conspiracy theories is that they are an appealing way to explain something, and anyone can invent them, just like I just did. They press the buttons in the inquisitive and suspicious parts of the brain, until you think about them for maybe half a minute, then the whole lot just falls apart.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I still don't see your point.
You are effectively saying most of the major countries in the world, the media in each of those countries, major businesses from different countries and the opposing politicians in each country are all getting together to keep us frightened and submissive?
And a couple of people on RLFans, a nurse in NY who is now a journalist, and a couple of UK doctors.... And I assume some others I've missed know the secret.
All I can say is it hasn't worked. I'm still working. My wife is supported financially by the government who is trying to frighten my, the air is cleaner and I don't have to put up with people who don't understand personal space.
The downside is, no sport, no holidays for a few months. Apart from all the crap I've bought from Amazon I've saved money and NRL has started to the sport bit hurts slightly less.
Whether you are right or wrong the same number of people have died whether someone has mislabelled the deaths or not.
What's the point of the conspiracy?'"
You answer me this question first. Why did the vast majority of Germans support Adolf Hitler in expanding Germanic living space across Europe and other parts of the world?
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