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| Quote ="feline"I can assure you that in no way does The Supporters Trust undermine Squadbuilder. Squadbuilders aims are still to help fund purchase and retention of junior players as witnessed by the recent junior signings including talented half back Liam Kay. The Trust and Squadbuilder monies will be kept in completely seperate accounts. The 3 committee members of Squadbuilder of myself, Phil Townend and Philip Hulme have all been instrumental in the formation of the Trust and see it as a communication vehicle between fans and the club as well as abody that safeguards the future of the club for the fans. hope that helps'"
think you are missing my point, its not about people like you and phil who give so much time and effort to every aspect of the club, and please dont take me as being disrespectful of that because im not, its about the average supporter having a focus for their time, and yes money, and having three or four groups to chose from.
as for a communication vehicle, think committees are a bit out of date on that front frankly the best vehicle for last 5 years has been on here, like it or not, its live its real and it has a daily input, in the information age there may be 100 people at a meeting and 150 waiting for the results of it to be posred on here.
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| Quote ="chapster"think you are missing my point, its not about people like you and phil who give so much time and effort to every aspect of the club, and please dont take me as being disrespectful of that because im not, its about the average supporter having a focus for their time, and yes money, and having three or four groups to chose from.
as for a communication vehicle, think committees are a bit out of date on that front frankly the best vehicle for last 5 years has been on here, like it or not, its live its real and it has a daily input, in the information age there may be 100 people at a meeting and 150 waiting for the results of it to be posred on here.'"
sorry I think I did miss your point. The committee/ communication is vital as then fans may find out such things that the ground has been sold when it is sold not 3 years after and to the person that sold it and we maybe able to prevent such things happening again !
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| Quote ="feline"sorry I think I did miss your point. The committee/ communication is vital as then fans may find out such things that the ground has been sold when it is sold not 3 years after and to the person that sold it and we maybe able to prevent such things happening again !'"
no worries!
for what its worth i think there is only one question pertinent to the future of WTRLFC and it is as follows;
The administration document showed a debt owing of 1.9 million pounds, what were the dates of incurance those debts, and to what extent did the business plan during the period of those debts ignore them, and secondary to this if the period is less than 4 years, what plans are in place to establish and maintain a top level rl team and achieve a revenue increase of 500k per annum so as to break even?
its sort of fundemantal.........
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| Quote ="chapster"I accept that but it also true that the trust was being discussed before said solids hit the fan, if we had not found an owner then perhaps its purpose to me would have been clearer, ie find one or do the very best we as supporters can to keep the club alive.
as you also say its there is if anything goes wrong in the future, and whilst I accept that I question the value of a an army being formed that currently has no war to fight, and if a major benefactor comes to the table does it in fact deminish the need for this group? Am only asking I may be completely and utterly wrong, so please no one get on any horses!!'"
The thing is that it could take 6 or 12 month to form the Army (could also take a lot less). If it does hit the fan again we more than likely won't have that kind of time to form one. What you need to do is think of it as less of an Army but more a Reserve. Bit like the home guard with Sandal cat as Captain Mannering (sorry Ian) for the time being.
Hope this doesn't make me Pike
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| Quote ="ry21"The thing is that it could take 6 or 12 month to form the Army (could also take a lot less). If it does hit the fan again we more than likely won't have that kind of time to form one. What you need to do is think of it as less of an Army but more a Reserve. Bit like the home guard with Sandal cat as Captain Mannering (sorry Ian) for the time being.
Hope this doesn't make me Pike
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SC as mainwaring i like, although ive never thown beer over arthur lowe!
Im like sgt wilson.......do you think thats wise???
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| Never been referred to as Captain Mainwaring before
As has been said the current Board/Steering Group are just caretakers until the AGM when the new Board will be formed. As that's only 3 months away there is little point us laying down cast iron strategies - that will be for the new Board to determine. Some of the Steering Group will probably stand for election and some of us will stand down. The Trust is a truely democratic organisation and its Members will determine the Board and therefore its Policies provided they are in accordance with the Trust Rules.
Between now and the AGM I would dearly love to bring the Supporters Club and WiSCA together within the Trust. I do not know all the Politics involved and don't really want to, all I want to see is the Trust representing the Supporters of this Club and the SC and WiSCA within it.
We need the membership of the Trust to be truly reperesentitive and therefore we need as many members as possible. If you have not joined the Trust can I please urge you to give it serious consideration and join. The bigger we are the louder our voice and the more we are heard.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Apologies - I didn't make myself clear; I'm 100% supportive of the Trust and the proud owner of share number 66 - I think the approach that's been taken in terms of inviting the existing groups to the table is a good one, and I hope it works.
My post was aimed at RichieWarlord and the others who seem exasperated that the pre-existing supporters groups aren't immediately coming into the fold; the point I was trying to make is that from their perspective, the ST is the new kid on the block and as such, they're entitled to take some time before they make a decision about affiliating, or not.'"
I don't see the issue with any group saying they support the general ideals as is now, but with them wanting to know more longer term at an open AGM before committing fully and have specific hopes for influencing them. There has been about four months since the initial ST meeting to state their place, either they support the ST ideals or they could state publically what they stand for or where they are. I apologise if I have missed an announcement. I don't know who they are, what different groups stand for etc.. If its former regime related, well they aren't here - it should be club related.
The problem I have is that duplication is unnecessary. Duplication is unnecessary, see it really is! Idealistically, and I know life is different, I would hope that the ST would be able to support/represent the different groups, the Squadbuilder group, the Disabled Supporters group, the Transport to away games group, and any other groups that are 'single issue'. It would be a good way of keeping a uniform approach to publicising each of the groups through an umbrella organisation (ST) that would be able to put any issues to the Club through the ST. And also each group would be able to publicise its aims and hopes so it reaches a wider audience than currently does. They may actually be able to increase their effectiveness by doing so.
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| Quote ="ry21"What you have to remember is that the ST was initially conceived when the preverbial had well and truly hit the fan. Since then AG has come in and it seems the club is on the up. It may be that it's 10 years (hopefully never) before it hits the fan again. If it does the ST will hopefully be in a position through it's members (the fans) to help the club out of it in what ever way. IMO the major short term aim of the ST is to open up the channels of communications out of and more importantly into the club. Look at how much the new regime have listened already. Surely this can only be aided by the formation of the ST.
This is Wakefield. Together we are stronger.'"
Just a slight correction to that statement so that the record doesn't get muddled, The Trust was conceived of and was being implemented for a number of months BEFORE the proverbial hit the fan!
The events of late 2010 lead to an early unveiling of the Trusts potential formation.
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