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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"It really did. Taken directly off the website...
'Wakefield Trinity can announce the signing of Sam Hewitt from Huddersfield Giants on an initial two-week loan deal.
Hewitt will link up with the squad on Monday ahead of our next game with Salford Red Devils on Sunday 19th March'.
But as you say it's immaterial. Huddersfield will call them back if needed, if they don't they are likely to stay with us. Doesn't help with longterm planning but thats where we find ourselves. In the meantime we need them to help lift us out of our considerable funk.'"
I'm reading it off the Facebook site, in which case I'm right, I don't read the website tbh, so I'll take your word. It's not an issue, as I say it all boils down to who words them.
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| Quote ="PopTart"There's no point arguing. Giants have said all their short term loans follow that plan. 2 weeks initially and then reviewed weekly.'"
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| Another Ex-Academy player of ours.....blimey you may as well rename yourself Huddersfield Giants Reserves 'B' at this rate.
Bet your Academy players are delighted your giving gametime to other clubs reserves players rathen than them.
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| Quote ="vastman"Really
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Is that your way of saying "oh yes I realise everyone else is right"?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Did Applegarth kick your cat once? You really don't like him do you.
He's not the best coach that's ever been in Super League but he's not the worst either.'" tbh despite what some say on here Applegarth is least of our problems
Most of the players we have were signed long before he was in charge, once he became head coach it would appear he had zero money to work with
Truly we could have mal meninga or Tim sheens etc but you can’t build bricks without straw , perhaps not signing Shaul was a bit of a mistake (although he hasn’t been fit to play anyway) but ultimately our problem is down to the playing roster.
Am sure he knew the constraints when he took the job - but realistically we have had between 5-7 starting players out pretty much since the word go.
The fact the club is trying to,wheel and deal to a massive extent after 6 games just shows what the consensus on the active playing roster is
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| Quote ="vastman"You keep saying this, but name one - who exactly is this available No 6?'"
Just saying these coaches are playing rugby from the sixties, just signing forward after forward .The over sea forwards they have brought in this season have got to be as a bunch the worst overseas signings we had at Wakefield in a long time. Every thing about the team is so slow .Have we made a 40 hard break so far this season ? At the end of the day the coaches are the people who get paid for finding and getting the players in Fans to on about no money ,but maybe spending it all on overrated oversea players and instead of looking round for a decent 6 should have been the first option .We are just doing what Chester did in is last two year bringing in any body in posions we have no need to fill
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| But you answer your own question.
You don't like that they are recruiting forwards but then say the ones we have aren't performing. (Or are in many cases injured)
I don't know it's going to work but I'm glad they are trying.
Personally, if our pack can get on top it will ease things for the backs.
Though clearly, less mistakes and more urgency with the ball would help.
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| To be honest if our forwards can't get us into some sort of decent position on Thursday on a school size pitch they probably need to look at alternative careers. This is the time for the halfbacks to come to the fore and show us what they can do, they should have enough good ball sets to work with.
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| I’d have taken Mason at Leigh for a few weeks, one of our grunts out for a bit now and we don’t have a big squad
He’s had a couple of stunts at Leigh and has size and hits the line well - thought he’d kick on to be a decent SL player but seems to be injured a lot - hopefully serves a purpose for you guys
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| Quote ="PopTart"But you answer your own question.
You don't like that they are recruiting forwards but then say the ones we have aren't performing. (Or are in many cases injured)
I don't know it's going to work but I'm glad they are trying.
Personally, if our pack can get on top it will ease things for the backs.
Though clearly, less mistakes and more urgency with the ball would help.'"
The frustrating thing is we have a prop who isn’t playing first team on a big deal (for us) and we let another prop go who played in the first team over him because we want to pay him a pittance….and now we are resorted to this.
This is before we think about the money we have tied up in a poor winger or 2.
I’m a bit sick of the old, we don’t have any money line…when we are spending significantly so poorly on certain individuals who bring nothing to the team.
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| I’ve never heard of this guy… is he any good?
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| Quote ="Spookisback"I’ve never heard of this guy… is he any good?'"
Don't know,but we will soon find out.
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| Anyone heard anything on Whitbread to Hull? His name has been mentioned on our board, with Satae going to Catalans.
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| I can't say it's definitely not true, but the rumour was started by someone comes out with these random things all the time, and said - the rumour came from here - was in exchange for Evans - and 'could happen' considering the board when challenged.
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| I can't believe Wakey would be daft enough to take Evans off us. I'd be chuffed if we did manage to get Whitbread though
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| Yes I’m afraid I would be disappointed to lose Whitbread.
Couldn’t see us letting him go.
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| Quote ="jonh"
I’m a bit sick of the old, we don’t have any money line…when we are spending significantly so poorly on certain individuals who bring nothing to the team.'"
I see the penny has dropped jonh. I wish others would also wake up to the real problem
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Yes I’m afraid I would be disappointed to lose Whitbread.
Couldn’t see us letting him go.'"
It would be lunacy to do so, he’s our best forward by a country mile. Can’t see there being any truth in this.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I see the penny has dropped jonh. I wish others would also wake up to the real problem'"
It's not that people don't see it. But the decision has already been made. You can't just stop paying someone because you don't like them any more.
If we are still here next year, a lot of contracts won't be renewed I'm sure, but to release now would mean we had to pay them up, which wastes more money.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's not that people don't see it. But the decision has already been made. You can't just stop paying someone because you don't like them any more.
If we are still here next year, a lot of contracts won't be renewed I'm sure, but to release now would mean we had to pay them up, which wastes more money.'"
I don't think you see it, you are only seeing the symptom not the cause.
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| Quote ="jonh"The frustrating thing is we have a prop who isn’t playing first team on a big deal (for us) and we let another prop go who played in the first team over him because we want to pay him a pittance….and now we are resorted to this.
This is before we think about the money we have tied up in a poor winger or 2.
I’m a bit sick of the old, we don’t have any money line…when we are spending significantly so poorly on certain individuals who bring nothing to the team.'"
This is exactly where I'm at.
You've probably just put it more eloquently than I have.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I don't think you see it, you are only seeing the symptom not the cause.'"
We'll have to agree to disagree.
What I think you see is your own conclusion that people are making bad decisions, when you don't know why they are making those decisions.
It's dead easy sitting on the sideline discussing it. Very different being responsible for a multi million business and the people who work there as players and staff.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We'll have to agree to disagree.
What I think you see is your own conclusion that people are making bad decisions, when you don't know why they are making those decisions.
It's dead easy sitting on the sideline discussing it. Very different being responsible for a multi million business and the people who work there as players and staff.'"
Neither of us can see into the future PT. Let's hope the person responsible for those bad decisions, doesn't have to serve redundancy notices on the many hard working people within the club. Think we both agree on that one.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Neither of us can see into the future PT. Let's hope the person responsible for those bad decisions, doesn't have to serve redundancy notices on the many hard working people within the club. Think we both agree on that one.'"
We do.
Ultimately I can tell you only want the best for the club as most on here do.
Let's hope we look back in a few months time, happy that we turned all this around.
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| I wouldn’t read into the whitbread to hull stuff to much. He just signed a 3 year deal for you and they don’t have the £50-100k to buy him out of his contract from you and I can’t see your chairman being stupid enough to swap your best player for a over the hill prop from them when props are becoming very hard to come by!
And I’m sure if he ever become available Warrington have the money and the quota spot for him
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