Unless Rodney invited all the other members of the old Trust, other than MC and CB, on to the new Trust. Not sure why it has to be the old Trust, unless there is something in its constitution that they want to preserve.

Quote ="jakeyg95"If anything that's arguably one of his most concrete ideas. His numbers might not add up when he's costed things like scrapping tuition fees by increasing corporation tax without considering the harmful effect Brexit will have on those receipts, but he says he will fund the £250 billion investment by borrowing. It's not exactly difficult for a country to borrow that kind of money.'" Don't bother trying. Honestly. Spare yourself. What the IFS actually state, despite Vastman's clear confirmation biases, is that it would be impossible to tell if Labour's manifesto would end up fully costed because there are too many ifs and buts. But hey ho. As stated in this very article from the IFS: https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9218

Quote ="jakeyg95"If anything that's arguably one of his most concrete ideas. His numbers might not add up when he's costed things like scrapping tuition fees by increasing corporation tax without considering the harmful effect Brexit will have on those receipts, but he says he will fund the £250 billion investment by borrowing. It's not exactly difficult for a country to borrow that kind of money.'" Don't bother trying. Honestly. Spare yourself. What the IFS actually state, despite Vastman's clear confirmation biases, is that it would be impossible to tell if Labour's manifesto would end up fully costed because there are too many ifs and buts. But hey ho. As stated in this very article from the IFS: https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9218

What if that 'profit' is ultimately what the developer will pay for the stadium with? Without it = no funds = no stadium.

The developer and new trust have backed MC & CB into a corner. It's obvious the stadium won't be built on the current turns, quite simply Yorkcourt can't afford it which is why they will only deal with a new trust, one more receptive to negotiation to make it a better situation for themselves. What if Yorkcourt say sorry, we don't agree to your terms? There will be no stadium built and the club seems like the bad guys even though it really isn't. And we end up at Dewsbury for god knows how long.

In reality it will probably prove to be an empty gesture by MC & CB as it seems Yorkcourt won't take part in talks with a trust containing them yet they won't resign until a deal is signed. It will be dealock again. Quite frankly i wouldn't blame MC & CB from walking away from the club altogether, i doubt they need the hassle anymore with no end in sight.

But in a nutshell, on the weekend that we have the last of the regular rounds and enter the Super 8's, after one of the most successful seasons for years, we are either goosed for ever or on the up for ever.

Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Don't bother trying. Honestly. Spare yourself. What the IFS actually state, despite Vastman's clear confirmation biases, is that it would be impossible to tell if Labour's manifesto would end up fully costed because there are too many ifs and buts. But hey ho. As stated in this very article from the IFS: https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9218'" Will you two sod off and discuss politics elsewhere...this thread is about the future of our rugby club

Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Don't bother trying. Honestly. Spare yourself. What the IFS actually state, despite Vastman's clear confirmation biases, is that it would be impossible to tell if Labour's manifesto would end up fully costed because there are too many ifs and buts. But hey ho. As stated in this very article from the IFS: https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9218'" Will you two sod off and discuss politics elsewhere...this thread is about the future of our rugby club

Well said

Sat in Dubai airport reading this sorry tale.... sounds to me like the council and the developer have enlisted the help of a renown public figure to politically manage a potentially very difficult and possibly litigious situation. The owners at Trinity have stated their intention of holding to account those who have failed to hold themselves to account in the past.

Clearly Rodney Walker is not an independent in this issue as his previous actions(leading to his removal from the trust) has shown. I believe that his involvement now is to throw further disarray confusion and division into the situation... and ultimately politically remove the risk factor of Carter and Beresford...

The only real movement I have seen on this issue is since Michael and Chris started to take the hard line...

My experience in risk management say first option is to remove the risk... eliminate the cause... and I see a clever yet transparent risk elimination strategy by the council and the developer...


Create a confusing diversion which might split opinion then get rid of the strongest protagonists....

There is no new trust and no agreement with the council and developer... IMO it's smoke and mirrors to divert the possibility of legal action!


And it makes me so angry!!!!

Well done MC for putting that out....it is quite clear that Walker, Yorkcourt and Box are all on an ego trip, whereas MC, CB and the other Trust members just want what is best for Wakefield Trinity, ie a future for our club.
The ball is now firmly back in their court for them to finally deliver on their long-overdue promises....but I'll believe it when I am sitting in it !!

Partly agree and thinking of the same conclusions here as roverman.

Is SRW not wanting Michael or Chris involved with the club, which considerering what theyve done in past 4 years to run the club, think hes got a nerve.

Is SRW wanting to take over the reins of the club.

Well done Michael and Chris for standing up to him.

Can we not work closely with Manni and 88m group and do a full re vamp and stay put.

God this saga just keeps getting better. They know that MC/CB have broke their backs turning the club around & wouldn't accept any deal just to get a new stadium.

IIRC before Marwen took over, the stadium deal that Salford agreed to initially nearly broke the club?

Quote ="Spookdownunder"Sat in Dubai airport reading this sorry tale.... sounds to me like the council and the developer have enlisted the help of a renown public figure to politically manage a potentially very difficult and possibly litigious situation. The owners at Trinity have stated their intention of holding to account those who have failed to hold themselves to account in the past. Clearly Rodney Walker is not an independent in this issue as his previous actions(leading to his removal from the trust) has shown. I believe that his involvement now is to throw further disarray confusion and division into the situation... and ultimately politically remove the risk factor of Carter and Beresford... The only real movement I have seen on this issue is since Michael and Chris started to take the hard line... My experience in risk management say first option is to remove the risk... eliminate the cause... and I see a clever yet transparent risk elimination strategy by the council and the developer... Create a confusing diversion which might split opinion then get rid of the strongest protagonists.... There is no new trust and no agreement with the council and developer... IMO it's smoke and mirrors to divert the possibility of legal action! And it makes me so angry!!!!'" Just found this Yorkshire Post article from several weeks ago, and this tends to add credence to what Spook is saying... www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cou ... -1-8477909 Box knows that he has backed himself into a corner, so evidently has enlisted the help of Sir Rodders to try and combat the problem !!

Quote ="Spookdownunder"Sat in Dubai airport reading this sorry tale.... sounds to me like the council and the developer have enlisted the help of a renown public figure to politically manage a potentially very difficult and possibly litigious situation. The owners at Trinity have stated their intention of holding to account those who have failed to hold themselves to account in the past. Clearly Rodney Walker is not an independent in this issue as his previous actions(leading to his removal from the trust) has shown. I believe that his involvement now is to throw further disarray confusion and division into the situation... and ultimately politically remove the risk factor of Carter and Beresford... The only real movement I have seen on this issue is since Michael and Chris started to take the hard line... My experience in risk management say first option is to remove the risk... eliminate the cause... and I see a clever yet transparent risk elimination strategy by the council and the developer... Create a confusing diversion which might split opinion then get rid of the strongest protagonists.... There is no new trust and no agreement with the council and developer... IMO it's smoke and mirrors to divert the possibility of legal action! And it makes me so angry!!!!'" Just found this Yorkshire Post article from several weeks ago, and this tends to add credence to what Spook is saying... www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cou ... -1-8477909 Box knows that he has backed himself into a corner, so evidently has enlisted the help of Sir Rodders to try and combat the problem !!

I read it as SRW not wanting Michael and Chris involved with the Trust. They would still be involved with the club.

The fact RW knew the Newcold building didn't contribute to the trigger point and didn't tell anyone says it all to me.
I'm glad the club haven't sugar coated the statement but the obvious frustration doesn't bode well. One thing is for sure, YC have done everything so far to get away from building the stadium and are continuing to make things difficult. As mentioned, this just seams like another strategy to either stall things further or just get MC and Chris out of the picture so they can control the situation in their (more profitable) favor. Stinks

I note that the statement indicates they would be agreeable to resigning from the Stadium Trust. Is this not different from the running of the club. I do not offer an opinion just clarification because it is important to avoid unnecessary misinterpretation.

Think you're being a bit naiive there, Lyndsay...these are devious politicians that you are talking about...I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them !!

I read that too that it was only the Trust.

However, would they not have to deal with each other in business terms in future communication as the clubs owners. To me it would make future dealings very awkward indeed.

I think this would be SRWs long term objectives, taking the glory not only for a stadium build, but also possible future onfield success.

Hopefully not that green Fil

I agree that the characters involved need some watching, to say the least. I also think that if MC and CB walk away from Wakefield Trinity to be replaced by SRW or his 'puppet government' it would be the end of my 40+ years of watching Wakefield Trinity.

The new trust are saying building work could start later this year.
The current trust don't seem as confident but I can't see what other options we have. Am I the only one thinking we may actually get this community stadium finally built.

That's how I see it.

I wish I could share your optimism

What would you like clarifying exactly, as I would hate for you to misinterpret anything

I think it's a veiled question about whether you and Chris will be remaining at the club and what role you will have as owners of the club in relation to the potential new stadium?

I can remember when a certain person was chairman flogged all our best players Nigel wright great player remember him ,then he left saying he wouldn't preside over a clubs that's losing money the club was a mess,this management team has far more integrity and business acumen than that chaotic regime I know Who I believe and support.

Rodney walked a week ago. We are a family at Trinity and I for one will stick behind our great chairman that saved our bacon! I wouldn't trust Rod as far as I can throw him sad thing is this fiasco is our only option. Rodney should be facing tough questions. He has some bloody cheek wanting Chris and Michael out after what they have done for the club. Rodney needs to grow a pair and just get it done its pathetic and kindergarten stuff. I'm not going to work today until Steve leaves the office, I'm not going to my local pub anymore because Billy goes in. SRW ---- PATHETIC MAN

What does Councillor Box say about all this? Thought he was the new knight surely he doesn't need Rodneys say so? OR are these 2 loyal, trustworthy men in it together ???