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| Thought the question re the challenge cup was interesting about it being a straight knock out comp. I've said no to loop fixtures but if the CC became a word cup/champions league structure that could work.
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| Said pretty much the same as you Barnsley
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| Have always said likes of Leeds et al will only be happy when it’s a 5 team league , playing leeds saints hull Wigan Warrington playing each other 4 times a year no relegation promotion in a format like baseball if we go to ten 2 of Salford Wakefield and cas would effectively be relegated into,a in funded second division semi professional game - and in 3 years time they’d be talking about an 8 team league
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| I said I wanted Franchising back.
Prefer 14 teams.
And a fixed international calendar.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"Have always said likes of Leeds et al will only be happy when it’s a 5 team league , playing leeds saints hull Wigan Warrington playing each other 4 times a year no relegation promotion in a format like baseball if we go to ten 2 of Salford Wakefield and cas would effectively be relegated into,a in funded second division semi professional game - and in 3 years time they’d be talking about an 8 team league'"
8 then 6, than 2 and then Wigan and Leeds left paying with themselves every week. I hope that I worded that correctly.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"8 then 6, than 2 and then Wigan and Leeds left paying with themselves every week. I hope that I worded that correctly.'"
Can you imagine if there were 10 teams and constant TV loop games between the likes of Wigan/saints Leeds. It’s bad enough now. I always thought the league was better with 14 teams in and no loop fixtures. Also, six again that was brought in for Covid needs to be dropped fast. I like the idea of it but as a spectator it’s terrible. It’s so inconsistently applied by officials it’s more frustrating. Catalans game a prime example. Trinity got penalised for holding down yet Catalans seemed to be allowed an eternity. There just seems to be no consistency in it.
I do believe though that moving to 14 teams would be correct. Though I would also reduce the championship and league 1 leagues to fewer teams to create a comp of higher quality.
Promotion to SL should happen next 2 seasons to raise to 14 and during that time no relegation should happen. Also once the SL reaches 14 that year should be a no promotion/relegation closed year to allow the 14 teams to build/promote youth and get ready for a highly competitive comp the following year when promotion/relegation is put back on the table.
Also academy should be compulsory and there should be some central funding ringfenced for each team that can only be used on academy to help grow that side of the game and bring more participation and quality to the league medium to long term.
Just a few things I’d like to see.
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| But if six again is inconsistently applied, why would a penalty be better? Its the same, just slower.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But if six again is inconsistently applied, why would a penalty be better? Its the same, just slower.'"
Because a penalty includes the indication of what the offence was. Six agains give the refs the luxury of being the only one on the planet knowing WTF some were given for or not given sometimes. We got one against us v Wigan and the only obvious reason was because the home fans chanted that the referees a banker.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But if six again is inconsistently applied, why would a penalty be better? Its the same, just slower.'"
Maybe the ref could signal why the 6 again ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Maybe the ref could signal why the 6 again ?'"
That would work for me. They say it in the Mike on Sky games.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Maybe the ref could signal why the 6 again ?'"
Maybe, half the time fans have no idea why they’re given as it’s down to refs interpretation and they’re hardly consistent between different officials and tolerances. It’s quite frankly frustrating.
Penalties also tend to be reviewed on the TV games which gives some accountability and explains as to the reasons behind them.
I think the game has been sped up too much also which has led to a decrease in quality. You have some tired teams after relentless repeat sets with no break and it leads imo to some sloppy play.
I think we need to go back to the way the game was managed 10-15 years ago personally.
I watched a game from many years ago and it was far more exciting than the tiresome predictable tactics of today. Teams of the past used to have to break down teams with quality plays/kicks and create the gaps and space.
These days the tactics mostly are to get on front foot with fast plays and one up drives behind the ruck to force six agains and capitalise on a team on the back foot with a more direct but less exciting style. Quite frankly it’s boring.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I said I wanted Franchising back.
Prefer 14 teams.
And a fixed international calendar.'" snap
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| Polite prompt for what it is worth, less than two hours to complete the survey which might help Wakefield’s cause
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| Only time I watch S L is when Wakefield play . The Game as been going down hill for years the over all standed from the rugby to the refs, to the advantage of the so called big teams is a disgrace
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| The thing I don't get is RL and Sky saying they want to attend net zero , yet we have planes flying across the channel with teams and fans.
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Been listening to the game on radio Leeds, by the sound of things Catalans players and their supporters haven’t done their club any favours, some things thrown at the officials at the end of the game according to a very biased radio Leeds team.
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Been listening to the game on radio Leeds, by the sound of things Catalans players and their supporters haven’t done their club any favours, some things thrown at the officials at the end of the game according to a very biased radio Leeds team.
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They picked a real eye opener game to attend. The Dragons were at their most cynical and petulant. Disgraceful performance with special mentions to McLorrum and Dudson. Two yellows and a red.
Started off wanting a Catalans win but not for long. Got what they and McNamara deserved, sod all. C'est la vie
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They picked a real eye opener game to attend. The Dragons were at their most cynical and petulant. Disgraceful performance with special mentions to McLorrum and Dudson. Two yellows and a red.
Started off wanting a Catalans win but not for long. Got what they and McNamara deserved, sod all. C'est la vie
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| Watching a Catalan game takes nearly as long as one of Ken Dodd’s legendary performances.
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| That was a terrible game I thought.
Two poor disciplined teams. Low in quality play and poor inconsistent officiating with lack of control. Made for a poor game.
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| I hear that some SL clubs are looking to bring in local acting coaches to allow players to brush up on their theatrics.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"That was a terrible game I thought.
Two poor disciplined teams. Low in quality play and poor inconsistent officiating with lack of control. Made for a poor game.'"
Agree it wasn't great to watch - and it seemed to last hours - I'm sure it was around 10 o'clock before the game finished ! For what it's worth I thought Child did pretty well controlling the game - lot of players out there who weren't that interested in playing RL !
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| Done mine, it was more like a dissertation than a survey answer but essentially, 14 team comp, sacrosanct annual domestic and international representative programme, huge investment in relaunching schools & community game
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| Sounds like most - if not all - of us have said the same thing.
Let's hope IMG take it onboard - but I suspect they won't and have already decided what they are going to do.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Sounds like most - if not all - of us have said the same thing.
Let's hope IMG take it onboard - but I suspect they won't and have already decided what they are going to do.'"
You would think unless the survey is a landslide in favour of a format that they have already pre decided as you say. Probably an element of lip service but they will have a strong idea of the direction they wish to go in.
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