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| Quote ="lampyboy"I would have thought M C s done his sums. Any move away from b v may result in a decline of numbers turning up but with a winning team gates may go up. I'm fully behind the club in this instance and hope for the best. Staying at B V would be my choice but I ain't got the choice. Dewsbury comes a poor second but if that's all that's left so be it.'"
That's about where I am too. I'd rather be staying at BelleVue but if the alternative is not having a team to watch at all then I'll go to Dewsbury (or wherever else is viable)
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| Quote ="Fordy"That's about where I am too. I'd rather be staying at BelleVue but if the alternative is not having a team to watch at all then I'll go to Dewsbury (or wherever else is viable)'"
I go long with this but, IF we move to Dewsbury without a firm plan of sorting out a permanent home then, we are on borrowed time as a professional RL club.
I just don't see how we attract new fans under this scenario and the regulars will dwindle over a period of time.
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| Quote ="upthecats"I don't understand the change in attitude just over a possible temporary move to Dewsbury? If its in the best interests of the club why would you not continue as before to back the club? 200k is massive to us and could do a hell of a lot of good...
Its not as if Dewsbury is a million miles away...what is it, a ten minute car ride?
I could walk to Dewsbury ground in ten minutes from where I live but will be no better off as I pick me Dad up who lives in Wakefield...in such important times though, as a 'supporter' I will back the club 100%...'"
I think you miss the point. It will be three/four miles further for me but I would willingly go IF there is something positive that makes me know the move is TEMPORARY.
It's very simple for me as a 55 year supporter (season ticket holder and formerly having raised thousands for the club as a lottery agent many years ago) IF there is a move to Dewsbury with nothing FIRMLY in place I'm done. I will find another pastime.
I've been misled, deceived and lied to over the years and I guess you reach a point where you think 'who cares'.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I would have thought M C s done his sums. Any move away from b v may result in a decline of numbers turning up but with a winning team gates may go up. I'm fully behind the club in this instance and hope for the best. Staying at B V would be my choice but I ain't got the choice. Dewsbury comes a poor second but if that's all that's left so be it.'"
What ever the equations are it involves a large element of speculation on the numbers. It would take a lot of experience of RL marketing to get this figure correct. All I can say he has a hell of a lot more optimistic view of the upside of crowds in Dewsbury then I do. I fully except that I don't know all the sums and I'm just basing my speculation on the the costs of BV been £250k a year.
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| At 250000 we need a gate of 11000 all paying 22 quid to pay the rent. With gates of 5000 it will take 2 home games to pay the rent before we start with wages etc. If we pay dewsbury 100000 that's a gate of just over 4000 , that's about what we are achieving at present.
I seem to remember M C saying he would be able 5 manage with gates of 4500 or am I imagining that.
I have no idea what the rents are t b h it's based on comments made on the forum.
Like I have said before I would much prefer wake to stay at B V.
I'm in the pub so my calculations may be way off.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"At 250000 we need a gate of 11000 all paying 22 quid to pay the rent. With gates of 5000 it will take 2 home games to pay the rent before we start with wages etc. If we pay dewsbury 100000 that's a gate of just over 4000 , that's about what we are achieving at present.
I seem to remember M C saying he would be able 5 manage with gates of 4500 or am I imagining that.
I have no idea what the rents are t b h it's based on comments made on the forum.
Like I have said before I would much prefer wake to stay at B V.
I'm in the pub so my calculations may be way off.'"
Do you really think 4k is an achievable average at Dewsbury considering we will more than likely struggling at the basement end of the table (survival dependent of course)? Maybe if the fans are sold a convincing vision of were the club is heading we could hold on to existing fans. My biggest fear is the fans give up and we'll just be like Swinton and Oldham facing a slow terminal decline or maybe a move permanently away to another City.
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| I reckon it'll be 2-3k max against the teams with the larger travelling support at Dewsbury if Trinity are still in SL, sub 2k if not.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I reckon it'll be 2-3k max against the teams with the larger travelling support at Dewsbury if Trinity are still in SL, sub 2k if not.'"
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| I have no idea how many will make the short trip to Dewsbury if that's the choice. M C will do his sums and if it adds up off we go. I also didn't say we would get 4000 at Dews.
I would much rather stay at B V but we have already been told that the rents well over the top .
Like I said I'm sure M C said he needed gates of 4000 to 4500 at the end of last season to enable the club to field a team capable to compete. Now if that was based on a rent of 250000 a ren't of 100000 per season could show greater rewards.even if only 2000 turn up.
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| Wakefield to Dewsbury 6.2 miles
Wakefield to Newmarket 4.1 miles
No excuses not to go to games at Dewsbury.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Wakefield to Dewsbury 6.2 miles
Wakefield to Newmarket 4.1 miles
No excuses not to go to games at Dewsbury.'"
Bit of a simplistic view surmising everyone lives in central Wakefield.
Normanton to Belle vue, 3.8 miles
Normanton to Dewsbury, 13.1 miles
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| Quote ="JINJER"Bit of a simplistic view surmising everyone lives in central Wakefield.
Normanton to Belle vue, 3.8 miles
Normanton to Dewsbury, 13.1 miles'"
Simplistic being the operative term yes.
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| And Ossett 2miles Horbury 4miles.
Some will gain, some will lose.... but neither by much
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| I live in Barnsley...I'll watch Wakey wherever they play.
I won't be crying about it.
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| Quote ="dboy"I live in Barnsley...I'll watch Wakey wherever they play.
I won't be crying about it.'"
I live in Stockport and will watch wakey wherever we play
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"I live in Stockport and will watch wakey wherever we play'"
Well said that man,what ever topic there is,there will always be will nots,not for me,unable to and so on.People just love to put stumbling blocks in front of everything
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| I live in Normanton and dont have a car. Currently it takes me 15 minutes to get to Belle Vue. How long will it take me to get to theTetley Stadium. Does a bus from Normanton stop right outside the ground?
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"I live in Normanton and dont have a car. Currently it takes me 15 minutes to get to Belle Vue. How long will it take me to get to theTetley Stadium. Does a bus from Normanton stop right outside the ground?'"
I understand that people will have to reorganise their travel arrangements BIH,I just think if you want to do it you will.In an ideal world,we'd be travelling to BV to a 12000 all singing all dancing stadium,but,we have what we have and in the position we ar in.I hpoe if we do move to Rams that you are able to make it.
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| I live in Horbury so I'll be going if that's where we end up BUT...where will the new support come from in the future, will the younger generation identify with a Dewsbury based club if we are there years rather than a season or two.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"I live in Normanton and dont have a car. Currently it takes me 15 minutes to get to Belle Vue. How long will it take me to get to theTetley Stadium. Does a bus from Normanton stop right outside the ground?'"
If we do end up at Dewsbury next year, pm me, we'll be sorting a mini bus for home matches, unless you're boring and don't like a drink or a laugh, then you're on your own mate!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Simplistic being the operative term yes.'"
I can always rely on you WT for a bite. Still, better than just deleting I suppose eh.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I can always rely on you WT for a bite. Still, better than just deleting I suppose eh.
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Which is an admitance you are trolling. 1st warning for trolling.
Thanks for that.
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| I note that another week passes with no announcement from the club or those who are suppose to be representing us. I guess it will remain silent until after our fate is sealed but we must trust them further because they are all working for the good of the club but maybe not the supporters.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I note that another week passes with no announcement from the club or those who are suppose to be representing us. I guess it will remain silent until after our fate is sealed but we must trust them further because they are all working for the good of the club but maybe not the supporters.'"
No announcement, but we are still representing the supporters in every way we can. I am a Trustee for the proposed new Stadium, but it is the clubs decision as to where to play in the interim and when they are in position to let us all know the outcome, they will, and that will be as soon as possible for obvious reasons.
I will make it clear at the next Trust meting that there is a need to get some information out about the new ground.
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| Would I be right in assuming we are staying. I would have thought if we are moving on we would know by now, and an announcement made so plans could be made to arrange a good send off.
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