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| Quote ="Theboyem"I think this will be a major issue for championship clubs in the forthcoming seasons. The league has just lost Widnes which had one of the bigger travelling supports as well as Toulouse and at best will gain Crusaders who will bring next to nobody. Thats if they carry on which is doubtful. There is also likelly to be a drop off from Halifax in the immediate aftermath of licensing and if games are not on sky then exposure for sponsors lessens, thus meaning less revenue there. Even if Premier Sports get thew deal then they aren't going to be able to pay much for the rights, they aren't a big enough company. There could be some major financial headaches for some clubs in the lower leagues unless the RFL breathes some new life in the competition pretty soon.'"
Toulouse are no loss , their matches tended to be the lowest attendances anyway , and it isn't just Widnes's away support , just that they attracted your ' occasional big match ' supporter , our ' derby ' match next year will probably be Swinton , with Halifax after that
The TV deal won't happen and has never been paid for anyway , so again no great loss as it cost us money when we were on , in fact the Co oP sponsorship only happened because of the TV deal , so that might go as well
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I thought they were revamping the whole championship set up.'"
Yes they were thinking about it , but with 5/6 games left clubs in the Championship still don't know if anybody will be relegated , and those in Championship 1 don't know if there will be any promotion , or which positions will win promotion
Bloody marvellous
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"And that is exactly why you haven't got a franchise - A club with no junior setup and 2500 crowds!
I admit that we have escaped by the skin of our teeth, but you are so far behind even us (admittedly due to the gulf between SL and the national leagues) - you will be struggling. However I still think there are more spectators to be squeezed out of Halifax - where are the missing 3500? Get them back and you may have the key to unlock the SL door. How are the games meaningless anyway if there's the league title and Choo-Choo cup to play for?
It is a shame, I really like Halifax - fantastic day out, great stadium, friendly locals and good beer but they need to up their game.'"
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"And that is exactly why you haven't got a franchise - A club with no junior setup and 2500 crowds!
I admit that we have escaped by the skin of our teeth, but you are so far behind even us (admittedly due to the gulf between SL and the national leagues) - you will be struggling. However I still think there are more spectators to be squeezed out of Halifax - where are the missing 3500? Get them back and you may have the key to unlock the SL door. How are the games meaningless anyway if there's the league title and Choo-Choo cup to play for?
It is a shame, I really like Halifax - fantastic day out, great stadium, friendly locals and good beer but they need to up their game.'"
Trust me if you were in the championship you would have exactly the same problem with the attendances. we have been successful over the last 3 years too, and we still havent managed to increase the gates.
the games are meaningless ysure you play for 3 points and to get to the grand final, but we have just been to 2 successive grand finals, hasnt increased gates though because there is no promotion at the end of the season,
where is the selling point to come and watch a championship game these days??
you do have a youth set up but the sky money helps doesnt it? we dont have as much so therefore can't afford as much.
the only difference between the 2 clubs is the league they are playing in and the extra sky money super league teams get.
its the system though not you, i feel like we have been shafted by the RFL
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| Quote ="faxtastic"Trust me if you were in the championship you would have exactly the same problem with the attendances. =#FF0000we have been successful over the last 3 years too, and we still havent managed to increase the gates.
the games are meaningless ysure you play for 3 points and to get to the grand final, but we have just been to 2 successive grand finals, hasnt increased gates though because there is no promotion at the end of the season,
where is the selling point to come and watch a championship game these days??
you do have a youth set up but the sky money helps doesnt it? =#FF0000we dont have as much so therefore can't afford as much.
the only difference between the 2 clubs is the league they are playing in and the extra sky money super league teams get.
its the system though not you, i feel like we have been shafted by the RFL'"
there's the reasons why and you chairman can't see it
not a pop at you because I to hate the franchise system
hang in there bud
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| Quote ="snowie"there's the reasons why and you chairman can't see it
not a pop at you because I to hate the franchise system
hang in there bud'"
You can't though because everyone knows if Crusaders sort themselves out thats the next franchise sorted.
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| Quote ="faxtastic"You can't though because everyone knows if Crusaders sort themselves out thats the next franchise sorted.'"
Highly unlikely I'd say , but then again who knows what ' master plan ' they will come up with
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| Quote ="faxtastic"You can't though because everyone knows if Crusaders sort themselves out thats the next franchise sorted.'" if they can't do SL what makes you think they could do championship any better
you can then base your bid on a far stable history
by the way your pitch ain't long enough
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"My wife hates RL and doesn't follow any of it but today she just won't stop going on about how nasty the Fax Chairman is being...'"
My wife thinks Halifax have been sold down the river.
Mind you, she actually likes the game, maybe that's it.
Quote ="Roonaldo6"Just heard the interview with the chairman of Halifax... must say utter tosh.
I quote "Our results have been better than Wakefields on the pitch".
No s*** sherlock. Didnt know playing Wigan, Warrington, St Helens etc.. each week compared with Dewsbury, Leigh & Barrow.
Idiot.'"
How is he an idiot?
Halifax's results ARE better, even when you take into account the league they play in.
They have made far better use of the meagre funds available to them than Wakefield have with their share of Sky income.
Quote ="djcool"The Shay Capacity 10,061 (5,830 seated)
BV after redevelopment 12,000'"
The Shay's development actually exists, right now, you can see it and touch it.
Belle Vue's redevelopment is an idea, a dream, a promise (and we've seen promise after promise from Wakefield evaporate so many times).
Who on earth is going to spend serious money (and it would take really serious money, given the state of it) to redevelop a ground that doesn't even belong to them, when they are going to build a new stadium almost immediately?
Maybe Richard Lewis fell for that but it doesn't ring true to me.
12,000 capacity you say ... and how full? ... or are you going to continue to depend on away fans bringing the money in?
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"
The Shay's development actually exists, right now, you can see it and touch it.
Belle Vue's redevelopment is an idea, a dream, a promise (and we've seen promise after promise from Wakefield evaporate so many times).
Who on earth is going to spend serious money (and it would take really serious money, given the state of it) to redevelop a ground that doesn't even belong to them, when they are going to build a new stadium almost immediately?
Maybe Richard Lewis fell for that but it doesn't ring true to me.
12,000 capacity you say ... and how full? ... or are you going to continue to depend on away fans bringing the money in?'"
Going to cost £500,000 the money has been earmarked and the contractors were at the ground yesterday looking at what needs doing
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| surely if the ground does not happen over the next year the rfl can kick them out? or are they going to give them yet again another 3 years to fail on the promises?
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| Quote ="truewiganer"surely if the ground does not happen over the next year the rfl can kick them out? or are they going to give them yet again another 3 years to fail on the promises?'"
I'll type slowly for you so then when you've read it, or had someone to read it for you, you can go away.
The improvements, which will be ready for the start of 2012 season, will bring BV up to grade B (close to grade A) and so good enough for SL.
If the PI has a positive outcome at the end of this year buildiing NM will start next spring and be ready to play in near the start of 2013 season.
If the result is negative then we have a bigger problem finding a permanent home The improved BV will be sufficient for this franchise period, but may be an issue come 2014 if a more permanent solution is not on the horizon. Sorry to disappoint you but we're not going away.
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| Quote ="truewiganer"surely if the ground does not happen over the next year the rfl can kick them out? or are they going to give them yet again another 3 years to fail on the promises?'"
The way I read it, it's a three-year franchise.
Would the RFL kick them on the grounds of insufficient progress? I doubt it, as that would involve (maybe) promoting a team that didn't have the right player contracts or business plan in place, plus would possibly unbalance the structure of SL if there was no-one ready to be promoted.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"My wife thinks Halifax have been sold down the river.
Mind you, she actually likes the game, maybe that's it.
How is he an idiot?
Halifax's results ARE better, even when you take into account the league they play in.
They have made far better use of the meagre funds available to them than Wakefield have with their share of Sky income.
The Shay's development actually exists, right now, you can see it and touch it.
Belle Vue's redevelopment is an idea, a dream, a promise (and we've seen promise after promise from Wakefield evaporate so many times).
Who on earth is going to spend serious money (and it would take really serious money, given the state of it) to redevelop a ground that doesn't even belong to them, when they are going to build a new stadium almost immediately?
Maybe Richard Lewis fell for that but it doesn't ring true to me.
12,000 capacity you say ... and how full? ... or are you going to continue to depend on away fans bringing the money in?'"
Try asking Cas about their ground. After all Richard Wright was photographed 5 years ago with a hard hat in front of a digger 'at their new ground'.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"My wife thinks Halifax have been sold down the river.
Mind you, she actually likes the game, maybe that's it.
How is he an idiot?
Halifax's results ARE better, even when you take into account the league they play in.
They have made far better use of the meagre funds available to them than Wakefield have with their share of Sky income.
The Shay's development actually exists, right now, you can see it and touch it.
Belle Vue's redevelopment is an idea, a dream, a promise (and we've seen promise after promise from Wakefield evaporate so many times).
Who on earth is going to spend serious money (and it would take really serious money, given the state of it) to redevelop a ground that doesn't even belong to them, when they are going to build a new stadium almost immediately?
Maybe Richard Lewis fell for that but it doesn't ring true to me.
12,000 capacity you say ... and how full? ... or are you going to continue to depend on away fans bringing the money in?'"
Can anyone be bothered to reply to this ill informed b*llocks masquerading as opinion, I can't. None of the so called fans on here fighting Halifax cause gave a toss a few weeks ago. We are everyones favourite whipping boy and it's getting boring.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"I'll type slowly for you so then when you've read it, or had someone to read it for you, you can go away.
The improvements, which will be ready for the start of 2012 season, will bring BV up to grade B (close to grade A) and so good enough for SL.
If the PI has a positive outcome at the end of this year buildiing NM will start next spring and be ready to play in near the start of 2013 season.
If the result is negative then we have a bigger problem finding a permanent home The improved BV will be sufficient for this franchise period, but may be an issue come 2014 if a more permanent solution is not on the horizon. Sorry to disappoint you but we're not going away.'"
thank you for that u arrogant git.
i was just asking the question cos the way that lewis prick said it, it suggested that u would be under scrutiny and that they could revoke ur any franchise at any point if they feel that any team is not up to it
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"The way I read it, it's a three-year franchise.
Would the RFL =#FF0000kick them on the grounds of insufficient progress? I doubt it, as that would involve (maybe) promoting a team that didn't have the right player contracts or business plan in place, plus would possibly unbalance the structure of SL if there was no-one ready to be promoted.'"
Thought this applied to all SL clubs, not just us!
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Try asking Cas about their ground. After all Richard Wright was photographed 5 years ago with a hard hat in front of a digger 'at their new ground'.'"
Right, so Cas's promises are as empty as Wakefield's?
OK, point taken, thanks.
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| Quote ="vastman"Can anyone be bothered to reply to this ill informed b*llocks masquerading as opinion, I can't. None of the so called fans on here fighting Halifax cause gave a toss a few weeks ago. We are everyones favourite whipping boy and it's getting boring.'"
Ill-informed b*llox?
If so, engage with the argument and say what is wrong and where.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Thought this applied to all SL clubs, not just us!'"
No idea what your point is.
I was simply saying that (as I understand it), once in, you're in for three years.
I could be wrong on that ... am I?
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| jeeees , i think this fella needs taking to the vets and putting out of his misery.
i was gutted for for fax , i truly 101% was but the way how hes taken defeat is embarrassing , it would of been more appropriate to "not be pleased" without naming a club . how the hell does he know that Wakefield's proposal was not even better than other grade C's.
If he was banking on gaining SL because wakey were so bad who did he think widnes were replacing? , no one knew about crusaders resignation until the day 11am . they threw us a life line possibly but lets not forget that the turn around in 6 months alone by the new company should also be looked upon without prejudice .
i would like to see fax back in super league mainly for the fans but the chairman really needs to apologise to Wakefield as he as let himself , Halifax and the game down.
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| Quote ="truewiganer"thank you for that u arrogant git.
i was just asking the question cos the way that lewis prick said it, it suggested that u would be under scrutiny and that they could revoke ur any franchise at any point if they feel that any team is not up to it'"
I didn't see that ... now that is interesting, if indeed it's true.
(not suggesting you've made it up, by the way)
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| Quote ="vastman"Can anyone be bothered to reply to this ill informed b*llocks masquerading as opinion, I can't. None of the so called fans on here fighting Halifax cause gave a toss a few weeks ago. We are everyones favourite whipping boy and it's getting boring.'"
Prescatly.
Some of these boring know alls who think they have a right to preach to the
Wakefield supporters are real dullards aren't they?
Do they all aspire to be smokeyTA?
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| Quote ="truewiganer"i was just asking the question '"
If only. You were looking for a bite and you got one. Be happy.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"If only. You were looking for a bite and you got one. Be happy.'"
im guessing your looking for the last word , i think you may just of got your wish
thanks for you small contributions truewiganer now go and annoy someone else.
Many thanks by the way to all other posters from all RLfans on Tuesday we were expecting a very busy day and only 1 poster let themselves down and was given time out by us , sometimes however people don't learn.
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