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| I think another who improved through the game was Tupou who started very nervously but improved to his former self.
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"So what your saying is youd expect gildart to make contact with reece 6-7 yards before try line and score..well done be like others and celebrate another defeat'"
Nope, what I'm saying is Gigot is lazy and has no interest in Wakefield and would have been better playing Max.
What do they say, 'you've got to have confidence in the man inside you', well I'm not surprised Reece looked so bad to you, when Gigot is off with the fairies!
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| Yeah, it was a little high but was caught and led to a try...thought he played really well at 9 and helped get us on the front foot....I know Josh Wood has a few fans in here but I’m still not convinced on his distribution and bringing forwards on to the ball...he puts the odd nice hit in but for me tonight has shown Jordan is a far better option at 9....one thing I think he’s really worked hard on is his discipline...I think last season in particular he was guilty of giving away quite a lot of what I’d call cheap penalties in and around the ptb but can clearly see he’s worked very hard on it...he’s gonna give the odd one away being involved in so many tackles but he’s definitely smartened up in my eyes...
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Nope, what I'm saying is Gigot is lazy and has no interest in Wakefield and would have been better playing Max.
What do they say, 'you've got to have confidence in the man inside you', well I'm not surprised Reece looked so bad to you, when Gigot is off with the fairies!'"
100% max beforre gigot..gigot been another shocking signing but reece still should of stopped gildart and was out of postion for second
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"100% max beforre gigot..gigot been another shocking signing but reece still should of stopped gildart and was out of postion for second'"
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| Quote ="Trinityknight"He didnt mention how he drew the would be tacklers to him first creating the chance for tinny'"
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Scarlet is full of it, if every player out there had the same attitude and work rate in every position as Jordan, Wakefield would be right up there.'"
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"A little defensive aren’t we, I am afraid the pass was too high. I have known you criticise other players who are not your son but I guess loyalty is a family thing.'"
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| I am glad for some that other player’s fathers don’t post on here with what supporters have posted because just think what they would have to say. I don’t know the personal situation regarding Pauli Pauli for example but how do you think his relative would think of some of your posts about him when he was keeping your son out of the team.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am glad for some that other player’s fathers don’t post on here with what supporters have posted because just think what they would have to say. I don’t know the personal situation regarding Pauli Pauli for example but how do you think his relative would think of some of your posts about him when he was keeping your son out of the team.'"
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I know his father posts on here but the pass to Arona was too high and hard [uit was only because he managed to control it that he scored.[/u'"
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| Jesus, would love to know Crowthers defensive stats for that game as he put in a right shift. As for his lovely no look nicely timed pass for T to cross, it unlocked their defence, nothing more can be said about it other than that surely? I’m sure Crowthers dad is his biggest critic, of which I probably am of my son, but you don’t critique good play that’s just bizarre. Crowther is a cracking player who leaves everything out there, and looks to have bulked up abit too so is putting himself about which is great to see.
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| Quote ="phe13"Miller must have been hit late/off the ball at least 5 times tonight, someone should have been in the bin'" Miller getting hit is a good thing it shows he’s running with the ball and taking it to the line, that puts fear into defenders and asks questions
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| Twice at least by Ben Flower after kicks.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Clutching at straws aren’t we, 2 assists 2 tries, must try harder to belittle SC, god knows what you’re agenda is but it’s definitely embarrassing
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| Quote ="Manuel"Twice at least by Ben Flower after kicks.'"
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"players have their limitations and they all hit levels, it’s about pushing through those levels and maximising all you’ve got. From what I was told he’s been going out and working on his fitness and his speed in the lockdown to do something about things not going his way and improve. He needs to get himself as fit as possible in the off season and condition himself to last the full 80 and then stick his hand up to play the full 80. Players don’t realise how far they can push their bodies they simply slip into the comfort zone of club training where everyone does the same. To me fitness is focus, you can attack at pace, you have desire to get across and defend your own line but above all you don’t fall off tackles.'"
With you 100% , I referred to the above during the Conditioner thread but it got kicked up in the air, spun round and twisted into something totally different.
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| 38 tackles from Crowther...4 misses but don’t think any were real damaging ones....stats can sometimes be misleading but you only need look at Arona’s to see what a hugely influential player he is for us...40 tackle with just 1 miss...14 carries for over 100 metres and a try to boot! If we can get big Dave back in there playing well and Eddie Battye in a week or two I think we showed enough last night to say we can finish the season with a bit of purpose and pick up some wins...
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I know his father posts on here but the pass to Arona was too high and hard it was only because he managed to control it that he scored.'"
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| Quote ="upthecats"38 tackles from Crowther...4 misses but don’t think any were real damaging ones....stats can sometimes be misleading but you only need look at Arona’s to see what a hugely influential player he is for us...40 tackle with just 1 miss...14 carries for over 100 metres and a try to boot! If we can get big Dave back in there playing well and Eddie Battye in a week or two I think we showed enough last night to say we can finish the season with a bit of purpose and pick up some wins...'"
Arona was superb last night and Crowthers first stint was possibly the reason that we were able to take a 12 point lead.
Crowthers distribution from dummy half was excellent too.
Still need to sort out our best FB and HB combination, which is leaving us short in attack.
Also, how good was the last minute tackle from Johnstone.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Arona was superb last night and Crowthers first stint was possibly the reason that we were able to take a 12 point lead.
Crowthers distribution from dummy half was excellent too.
Still need to sort out our best FB and HB combination, which is leaving us short in attack.
[uAlso, how good was the last minute tackle from Johnstone.[/u
Although the game was gone, it was one of the highlights of the game.
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| The players put the effort in last night which produced an overall better performance but not in terms of structure either in offence or defence. It was a better performance because of the players having a dig and also because we arguably had our first choice 17 on the field.
You can argue that Jowitt and Hampshire would be in the best 17 with one or the other at Full Back or Half Back and I think that’d be about right.
Walker looks completely out of sorts and perhaps even unsettled at Wakefield, maybe it’s a move that just isn’t working out for club or player with neither at fault.
Gigot was a strange signing right from the start, some would argue it’s another stupid signing by the Carter/Chester brains trust. There was no need for him, just play Max at half.
I could see the improved attitude from the players last night and it was pleasing to see but it’s one element of the performance and on its own was nowhere near good enough. Wigan had around 8 players in their late teens to early twenties and were missing a few like O’Loughlin, Bullock, G Burgess, Smithies, Manfredi, Marshall & Greenwood. French moved from Full Back to the wing and Hardaker moved back to Full Back from Centre. Let’s not forget this is a Wigan team that got beat by HKR a couple of weeks ago!
We looked like we might get something from the game for about 20 minutes but then conceded 26 unanswered points. We had a platform through the forwards for a while but despite being busy and flashing along the face of the opposition defence Miller created absolutely nothing, sorry but he’s never going to control a game and create try’s as a First Choice Half should.
The Crowther pass that some are criticising created a try, I was always taught that you shouldn’t expect a perfect pass and need to be ready to work a bit to catch the ball sometimes. That’s what Arona did and we got 6 points, if only we could get another 4 scruffy try creating passes we’d be doing OK.
I’m in agreement with Mopsey, I applaud and welcome the better attitude but I’m not accepting the poorly organised, incohesive attacking and defensive structure that ultimately undoes all the effort from the players.
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