Well said - I agree completely.

As for the comments about IDS - off topic they may be, but they are a matter of public record, so hardly problematic for this forum.

Do we really need all this politics on here. You are staunch Labour I guess. I vote Conservative. We all want Trinity to succeed.

Can somebody who actually knows tell us what Andrea Jenkins has done to support the stadium bid?

It's like someone said earlier,they make their mouth to suit,wouldn't trust any of them,whatever their party

Good Heavens Pop Tart! If you read some of the off topic subjects on the Barnsley FC Tykesmad forum you'd have kittens!!!

Good for you, I hope you sleep well.

So, a thread supposedly about the ground fiasco has turned into a political slanging match

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I just can’t wait to hear the latest revelation from those in the know, after the holiday period of course.

Everything boils down to politics, but if you can't understand that - Oh, the holidays are nearly over so we'll all be much clearer about our future

Where in my last post have you surmised that I know nothing about politics?

My point was, & still is, that there’s no need for a slanging match regarding the pro’s and con’s of the main political parties.

Because if you did have any knowledge of politics you’d have realised there’s been little difference since ninety seven.

Where do I debate the pros and cons of the main political parties? Politicians are playing a part in the Newmarket farce, and are thus fair game.

My comments about IDS aren't because he's a Tory, but because he's peddling a loathsome system that is stripping the least fortunate in our society of hope, dignity and in some cases of their life.

I've seen nothing from you to suggest that you have any knowledge of politics, and your comment that there's been no change since 97 would make me think otherwise - there's been no change since 1979!

and I made my comment to refute the earlier clam that people from this area only vote Labour because of historical links to the party through generations of miners, factory workers etc. .

I could not vote Tory, local or national because of the current ideological policies of government and in particular, though not isolated, the actions of IDS who's cruel policies have proven links to the deaths of between 4,000 and 5,000 vulnerable people.

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Point made that's that for me, back on topic!

What relevance does your chastising of IDS have on the ground issue?




Well think again, because in 1979 the Labour Party had a socialist agenda, which continued right through to Blair getting the leadership.

Anyhow, at least these petty spats are deflecting from the real issue.

Surely this thread has gone completely off topic. If people want to debate politics there are other forums...

Have to agree, left it for long enough but it's gone totally O/T. Back on topic please.

Correct, we can go to the "Sin Bin" No honestly, that's the name of the forum on RL Fans.

With what could be our last 2 home games at B V have the tourists returned from holiday.

must be walking round the world , or are we waiting for parliment to sit again?

All back from holiday now, thank you.
We have taken some important steps today. All will become clear in due course.

We need some decisions to be made or we will not be able to sell any season tickets and the club will have no income over the close season. Personally i think any move away from Belle Vue will see a slow death for the club unless it is accompanied by definite and believable news that there will be a return to the city.

The best outcome, and the only one that gives the club a proper platform to build for the future, is to stay at BV pending a move into a brand new stadium; anything else is a fudge.

I don't get real value from my season ticket and neither does my son because we cannot make 3 or 4 home games each year but we still buy 2 to support the club but i hope MC realises that a move to Dewsbury wull see me and many others just paying on the gate for the games we go to.

I don't understand the change in attitude just over a possible temporary move to Dewsbury? If its in the best interests of the club why would you not continue as before to back the club? 200k is massive to us and could do a hell of a lot of good...

Its not as if Dewsbury is a million miles away...what is it, a ten minute car ride?

I could walk to Dewsbury ground in ten minutes from where I live but will be no better off as I pick me Dad up who lives in Wakefield...in such important times though, as a 'supporter' I will back the club 100%...

Doesn't it depend on what's on the horizon? I'm guessing that no one would have any quibbles with a temporary move to Dewsbury if there was definite news on Newmarket or a revamped Belle Vue (and by definite, I mean the diggers are moving in), as it would help strengthen the team prior to the return.

The problem with a move to Dewsbury with no news on the horizon is that it is no longer what you once had and why you loved it: a rugby club in your home city, representing your home city. It becomes nothing more than a limited company that has found a more profitable way to do things, and this involves doing it elsewhere.

This is all speculation anyway, because I'm sure we'll be at Belle Vue next year. This has been all sharp manoeuvring by Carter, to lever more money from the Bank of Ireland, and by the sounds of it there was stuff going on in the background at the same time. Of course, he can't come out and give a big wink, because then his bluff will have failed.

Like you, there is little difference to me going to Dewsbuty to watch Trin (compared with Belle Vue or Newmarket) but, it's not just the geographical location of the ground that we are talking about.
The club is in a situation at the moment where we should be looking forward into next season and due to many reasons, we don't know, where we will be playing or at what level we will be playing and it may be that SL survival will have a direct bearing on where we play.
Although one can understand MC's motives in looking elsewhere, indeed, there would appear to be little choice but, unless we can pull a bloody good rabbit out of the hat, supporter numbers are likely to take a fairly hefty hit and on the assumption that Dewsbury (or whoever else) wont let us use their ground for free, it could still cost more (in terms of net lost revenue) for the club to play elsewhere.
Also, until the ground issue is resolved. how can the club hope to sell season tickets for next season ?

I would have thought M C s done his sums. Any move away from b v may result in a decline of numbers turning up but with a winning team gates may go up. I'm fully behind the club in this instance and hope for the best. Staying at B V would be my choice but I ain't got the choice. Dewsbury comes a poor second but if that's all that's left so be it.