They have already shown they listen to fans , as some suggestions have been actioned, I hope with the supporters trust , this continues

You would know

Thank you - good points, well made.

Sharp as a tack you fatboy, I noticed you did not turn up on tuesday night to support the newly founded Trust and to listen to what AG had to say, I bet if your uncle Ted had been there you would have chosen to go instead of watching Coronation St.

also this way you get the best of both worlds, you don't have to put your hand in your pocket and still get the opportunity to be rude to people what did

Is there an everyone hate Vastman campaign at the moment, did I miss something?

Seem so

No, but we have a few posters who log in and offer nothing other than having a dig at someone.

Nah. I think he's great.

Some deserve it, some don't, just think he seems to be taking more than his fair share in recent times, it's funny how people applaud Kears comments on Johnson regards his impending court case yet Vastman says the same regarding the previous board and it's like he has just been caught mudering innocent children?

One thing that stuck in my mind from the meeting, was that WiSCA are not involved with the supporters trust but all other groups seem to be.
Are WiSCA any closer to involvement with the trust following the obvious success of the initial meetings and with the trust having some significant support from the club?

WISCA were originally involved in the early meetings but chose not to continue with their involvement. We have made it known to them, via a number of channels, that the door is wide open for them to return should they wish to do so.

I'm meeting with WiSCA next month to have a chat with them about them becoming part of the Trust which I sincerely hope they do. They have done some terrific work for the Club in the past and I would hope that continues.

TOGETHER WE REALLY ARE STRONGER

There are plenty of us who have struggled to keep up / come to terms with what has happened and where we are at. WiSCA have had it very tough, but they love this club and have worked damned hard for it and that is not something to be sniffed at. All the best with this - and of course if I can be of assistance, I will be there.

That's good to here, it would be a fantastic achievement for everyone who is proud of this club, if all supporters came together.

It could work both ways and be of benefit to WiSCA as well.

So we could still end up with two groups running coaches to games, with one by the group which used to be official, the broke away and is now back within the fold and the other that was formed as independent, then official and now on the outside of the revolution!

I don't think its the Trusts intention to take over running coaches or any other jobs that these groups do, that could change if the membership and the new board decide to go down that road.

Each group will run independently (again thats up to each groups membership to decide upon) but will form part of the trust, so yes having two groups running coaches is possible at this stage but that may change.

Its early days and it will take time for it all to settle down.

Ahh right. So the Original Supporters Club would still exist, but working as part of the Trust with the club rather than outside it (funds from coaches and the like helping the Trust and the club), and the same with the Disabled Supporters Group etc.?

I think thats the aim but the OSC have there own membership and they'll decide how that pans out, maybe in time they'll operate from the trust, who knows.

I would think ( and hope) the disabled group will be run from within the trust with a representative elected onto the board.

A new board in August and a clearer view of how the groups have stacked up will tell us more.

It is absolutely crazy to have different sets of cliques within a club, such as different supporters groups doing the same thing. There is a point in having different 'needs and requirements' to be represented, but why have two lots of coaches, two lots of supporters groups membership, two lots of admin, two lots of blah blah blah....?

Surely in an economic climate like we have it is wasteful to have all this duplication?

And how would new fans look at the situation if they wanted to go to an away game? How would they get to know about either set of group providing travel? With just a phone number as a contact - no info as to what each group stands for, represents, etc...

It really is a ridiculous situation that all parties need sorting out. It makes much more sense to unite under the banner of the new ST, run one set of transport, etc...

Scrap the politics, petty squabbles - work together as TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER!

It is, but like i've said thats up to each group, the new board in August will be appointed and the members will vote on the next steps the trust takes and who wishes to be on board.

I understand Squadbuilder will go it alone but have joined the trust and support it 100%, no politics/squabbles involved.

Please remember the trusts only been set up for a week, these things take time and need handling in the correct manner.

Sorry Al, it wasn't a moan at the ST, it was a moan at those groups that aren't wanting a united supporters group that can represent the fans as one body together.

I never took it as a moan mate, and you are right in your views.

After the elections in August it'll be a lot clearer.

Fingers crossed that all parties take the opportunity to seize this new wave opportunity and push forwards in the new era suitable for the club.