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| Got you now Would love to see Cooper down at the job centre.
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| Couldn't have put it better HV.
Over and above that, no controlled immigration under Jezza too. I did mention the rate that the population had increased by in the past 20 years. Figures like that just aren't sustainable
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I suppose we could always have kept Pinderfields as it was and not had the redevelopment.
The results are very much a second referendum for me, which is sad because there are far more important issue to address then that. Anyone who thinks this is now Brexit done may he sadly mistaken. I can see this rumbling on for years.
I really dont see a change in how the city will be run either so again anyone who expects a sudden influx of investment because Creagh has gone will be again sadly mistaken.'"
Probably mainly a Brexit vote, Corbyn stuttering over Brexit did not help Labour.
I could not bring myself to vote Tory but accept that Labour's policies are not what the voters want.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"
I really dont see a change in how the city will be run either so again anyone who expects a sudden influx of investment because Creagh has gone will be again sadly mistaken.'"
I guess it will be worse as regards the MDC as the local election are generally used as a protest vote against whichever party is in power nationally.
Regarding Creagh it's 100% the chickens coming home to roost following her total disregard of the original Brexit Referendum result in her constituency.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo" Regarding Creagh it's 100% the chickens coming home to roost following her total disregard of the original Brexit Referendum result in her constituency.'"
Yep, real shame that Yvette Cooper didn't go the same way. Hopefully the loss of votes will give her a kick up the behind but I doubt it.
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| Having met this odious, smug and self important person Mary Creagh her ousting has given me a smile that's making my face ache (glad to grin and bear it)
A Labour party choice foisted on the Wakefield electorate here to represent herself and the Labour party and not the constintuents, the fact she chose to ignore Wakefields 2/3rds vote in favour of leaving the EU and fight for remain just underlines her contempt for those she deemed beneath her and in her view were wrong. Glad to see the back of her, still grinning by the way.
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| Never bothersme who rules the country, but got to say having a lying,slimy,Pratt like him as made me fear for my grandkids
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| Quote ="alegend"Never bothersme who rules the country, but got to say having a lying,slimy,Pratt like him as made me fear for my grandkids'"
There is no doubt Boris is a liar but he’s a bad liar and fools no one. We get Boris even if we don’t always agree. Corbyn to a degree and the truly awful momentum group to a massive degree are excellent liars and I find that far more worrying.
The only scary thing about Boris is his mate Dom, a nasty piece of work but one who may have served his use. It will be interesting to see how soon Boris dumps him and becomes his own man. If he doesn’t then I’ll be more worried.
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| Corbyn announces he will not lead the Labour party in the next election, the deluded clown didn't lead them in this one, it will be interesting to see who's next up from Clown school my guess is the charmeless Keir Starmer. He may have a few years to wait to try a bit of election leadership though.
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| Got to admit Corbyn no better, But think we are going back to the Dickens days , when the average person had to fend for themselves while the rich got richer.The national health, transport,police ext are at a critical stage .There is no mention of this been improved in the Torys manafesto and yet they can spend 54 billion pound on six war planes from America
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"There is no doubt Boris is a liar but he’s a bad liar and fools no one.'"
Don't think that because you can see through him, others can too. There will be plenty of people this morning repeating the 'Get Brexit Done' slogan, like it's gospel. I'll give it until early January, when that gets binned, and the next vacuous slogan comes along to keep them pacified.
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| Quote ="alegend"Got to admit Corbyn no better, But think we are going back to the Dickens days , when the average person had to fend for themselves while the rich got richer.The national health, transport,police ext are at a critical stage .There is no mention of this been improved in the Torys manafesto and yet they can spend 54 billion pound on six war planes from America'"
I had to laugh at something I read this morning citing Corbyn being a middle-class north Londoner as a reason for him being unable to appeal to working-class communities. I'd like to know what appeal old Etonians, Jacob William Rees-Mogg, and Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson, had to working-class communities? Anyone?
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| None of them are marxist loons?
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| Quote ="alegend"Got to admit Corbyn no better, But think we are going back to the Dickens days , when the average person had to fend for themselves while the rich got richer.The national health, transport,police ext are at a critical stage .There is no mention of this been improved in the Torys manafesto and yet they can spend 54 billion pound on six war planes from America'"
I'm pretty sure NHS, Transport and Police did get a few mentions during the electioneering by all parties
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I had to laugh at something I read this morning citing Corbyn being a middle-class north Londoner as a reason for him being unable to appeal to working-class communities. I'd like to know what appeal old Etonians, Jacob William Rees-Mogg, and Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson, had to working-class communities? Anyone?'"
Slightly more realistic policies and acceptance of the majority of the nations wish for Brexit to be finalised would be my guess.
TBH we need to get over this class thing, it's a red Herring IMO. There are plenty of people from ordinary backgrounds who could go to the top if they had the balls or could be bothered, Mrs Thatcher is a perfect example (minus the balls or maybe not ). It's just an excuse. These days most people are happy to make a killing and retire young whilst giving nothing back.
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| Doesnt matter who is in charge i know i have still to go to work monday morning and pay tax on my wage at end of the month
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Slightly more realistic policies and acceptance of the majority of the nations wish for Brexit to be finalised would be my guess.
TBH we need to get over this class thing, it's a red Herring IMO. There are plenty of people from ordinary backgrounds who could go to the top if they had the balls or could be bothered, Mrs Thatcher is a perfect example (minus the balls or maybe not
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| Quote ="eric35"Retire young........ well unless you have to wait 6 years longer to get your pension like some ladies'"
True but in no way relevant to whether the Eton educated have an inherent advantage over those from other backgrounds in the world of politics. Its a completely different subject!
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| Quote ="alegend"Never bothersme who rules the country, but got to say having a lying,slimy,Pratt like him as made me fear for my grandkids'"
So who did you vote for ? Corbyns policies would have bankrupted the country over a ten year period. I agree that boris is the lesser of 2 weevils.
Sadly the Labour Party formed out of the trade union party to represent the ordinary working man, has virtually no working men or women in their ranks. They can’t identify with us because basically they started out life at private’s schools - gained there work experience straight from university into being an assistant to Tony Blair et sl, selected candidates by their creed race and sexuality and parachuted them in to northern safe constituencies promoting communist ideals whilst sending their kids to private schools.
Allowed to vote and be the deciding vote over brexit whilst being a convicted felon and liar
Diane Abbott , Milliband brothers , Cooper, onasanya McDonald I rest my case
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| Quote ="eric35"Retire young........ well unless you have to wait 6 years longer to get your pension like some ladies'"
Your having a laugh - why should ladies retire earlier than men ? In this work of equality why should some one have preferential treatment as a result of their sex ? I know I ll identify as a woman and jack in working 5 years early
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I had to laugh at something I read this morning citing Corbyn being a middle-class north Londoner as a reason for him being unable to appeal to working-class communities. I'd like to know what appeal old Etonians, Jacob William Rees-Mogg, and Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson, had to working-class communities? Anyone?'"
Haha, I think Rees Mogg would have workhouses back given half a chance! I fear for the future of my grandkids but we'll now see how things pan out under the real Boris and his cronies.
I honestly don't think many people have studied conservative policies, other than Brexit, but Labour did themselves no favours and the result was never in doubt.
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| Quote ="trinity374"Haha, I think Rees Mogg would have workhouses back given half a chance! I fear for the future of my grandkids but we'll now see how things pan out under the real Boris and his cronies.
I honestly don't think many people have studied conservative policies, other than Brexit, but Labour did themselves no favours and the result was never in doubt.'"
They used to say people in Wakefield were so stupid that if you painted a Donkey red they would vote for it, do you find that theory acceptable?
Why is it that when things don't go peoples way they claim the other lot didn't read the manifesto properly because one has to assume they are somehow daft. To call that attitude condescending is an understatement, yes mate in the last two never-ending years we've all totally not understood Brexit ect, I mean it's not like anybody's been talking about it is it
Take it on the chin, one side won one side lost and the majority gets what it wants, its called democracy. You can disagree all you like and hell you may be right as regards policy but don't you dare suggest people who voted Tory are stupid, the vast majority knew exactly what they were doing and did so with the best of intentions!
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Farage is a Tory, just in another name
, who allegedly claimed £12million in expenses over 10 years as a MEP and now he's off to be Trumps warm up act on the US campaign trail.
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So how long do you think it will take to find the Labour equivalent?
Perhaps Scargill living it large in Docklands using cash that 'nobody knows"exactly where he got it from cough, ALLEGEDLY
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