Dont just count on Cas to cast off there asbeens you can count on Hull.fc Huddersfield and Leeds that loaned us and let us take them off contract players that have improved our club.

Id guess he's a 'work in progress' type of signing. If Chester feels he'll fit in with the ethos of the club though, I'm happy to welcome him (should he actually come)

When playing Cas he's not a player you fear or expect to do much more than the basics. Very lightweight. Can't really see it to be honest.

I disagree. I thought he looked dangerous when we played them.
He dents a defence as well as anyone.

At least Moore, Tansey and Owen had some history of success behind them. This guy has really never been more than a potentially good player, one of Cas's flops I suppose?

Stop talking rot

Quote ="PopTart"I disagree. I thought he looked dangerous when we played them. He dents a defence as well as anyone.'" I agree but then Wallo seems to watch a different game to most of us but opinions differ. However to call him lightweight is plain stupid - he's 6'2'' and just shy of 18 stone - when exactly did that become lightweight. Frankly I wasn't bothered about this lad either way but if our two resident in-experts don't rate him I can't wait for us to sign him! https://castlefordtigers.com/player.php?id=106 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadwin_Springer

Quote ="PopTart"I disagree. I thought he looked dangerous when we played them. He dents a defence as well as anyone.'" I agree but then Wallo seems to watch a different game to most of us but opinions differ. However to call him lightweight is plain stupid - he's 6'2'' and just shy of 18 stone - when exactly did that become lightweight. Frankly I wasn't bothered about this lad either way but if our two resident in-experts don't rate him I can't wait for us to sign him! https://castlefordtigers.com/player.php?id=106 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadwin_Springer

Remind us again what yoyr opinios were regarding Grix and Club MOS Wood? Personally i can't recall what you said but I bet it was along similar lines.

Alright for you to talk it though isn't it.

Didn't say anything against Wood feel free to look back. Grix I'm not a fan of never have been and never will. But at least these two aren't nutcases off the pitch.

Watch Tansey in million pound game v Bradford. Massive contribution.

Springer is a French International isn't he, so would surely take up a quota spot.

The question I would ask, is he worth that quota spot, as I would play England, Huby, Fifita and Hirst in front of him.

Is it worth having the quota spot sitting in the stands most weeks?

My opinion FWIW is yes. Because he's a known quantity rather than a highlight DVD. Wether you rate him or not is as I say opinion but if you do he's not a gamble - most of us have seen him in the flesh at least half a dozen times - you can't say that for most NRL imports.

I have a feeling you did but really can I be bothered to find out - no.

What you are suggesting is that Cas have palmed us off with some rubbish - really - so nobody knew Tansey's flaws as a player or Moore's criminality or Owens demons did they? Cas held a gun to our heads and told us to take these players. I can't stand Cas but you might as well go the whole hog and blame them for global warming!

It's been a mixed bag but all three of those players did their bit - Moore in particular on the field. Either way we should have known what they were, so either you're suggesting the club is staffed by stupid people who don't know whats happening in the wider world or people who are easily bullied - seriously?

French players don’t count on the quota.

Anyway i think MC denied this on twitter a couple of nights back.

He also told us Tyler Randal's signing was an "urban myth".

If he doesnt count on quota then would be happy with the signing as a back up, provided we are still going after Pauli.

With these, plus the addition of Baldwinson and Horo, to me would give us a stronger pack overall, than that of 2017.

Indeed, he’s a fibber!

aula

Give over it's one or the other.

Why is Pauli suudenly a better option than Springer the blokes hardly played a game in the last year.

I also seriously doubt you've ever seen him play other than YouTube highlights.

Also where is the cash coming from? Your the accountant.

Finally who says we are after him 'chippy women'? No just some random poster.

If you're wondering why you get shot down this is it.

FWIW I'd take either, why we'd need both I don't know. What club has 7 props in the squad that's a quarter of the team.

Just to remind that would be Fifita, England, Huby, Hirst, Baldwinson, plus Pauli and Springer. Slight overkill tbh.

Anyone know how much extra we get for finishing 5th? Isn't it nothing for 8th and £25000 For each position after? If so we would have £75000 extra for 5th?

And how much more do you think we had to agree to increase the salaries of the players we have brilliantly managed to retain.

The reason I said both is that since the start of 2017 we have lost Allgood, Ant and Adam Walker. I would think given Allgoods experience he would have been on more than Springer or Pauli. Would think Adam Walker was on a fair salary too.

I havent mentioned Williams, Gibson or Molloy, which two have gone and not been replaced and I dont think Molloy will be here next year. I see Baldwinson at the moment a Molloy replacement as he has played a fair bit in the back row too.

As for the money, there will be prize money and I would hazard a guess that our crowds are slightly up on last year as well as some of our other revenue streams.

Out of curiosity Vastman, you keep mentioning my profession, as well as resident know it all, what is yours?

For the record the chippy comment was from the owner of a very popular chippy in Wakefield where there is a lot of rugby memorabilia on the wall

Sure I read we weren’t getting our full allocation of sky money next season due to ground not meeting all criteria and this being the case will offset any prize money etc

That's a bit harsh innit pet, it's only yesterday you were singing his praises, in the words of Esther Phillips, what a difference a day makes

Surely that should apply to another club in a similar situation ground wise. If true of course.