From watching Widnes simply walk through London's defence in last week's highlights, I can't begin to fathom how we could get nilled tonight.

Shocking performance. Must improve for Friday. Hopefully this was our big stinker for the season.

I will judge agar at end of season....but as a qualified coach there are times when you encourage players..there's times when you need to keep.a calm head and there are times when you have to lay into them at half time and give them a kick up backside...watching agars post match interview doesn't look like he's type of bloke who can give them a right rollocking when they need it...one other question what does Webster bring to the team ?

This team frustrates the hell out of you at times. How many times have we ground out great results against so called ' bigger ' teams only to throw away all the hard work with an inept performance against a side at or near to the bottom. I really thought we'd be smarter with the ball as we have been in recent weeks but today seemed to be hitting a brick wall trundling it upfield lethargically and added to the terrible calls from Ganson we kicked out on the full, threw it into touch, got caught in possession instead of kicking into the in - goal and many other errors during the game. Out enthused, out jumped for several tries, I'm out on a limb wondering what has happened to our team after all those weeks making progress. Just goes to show there are no easy beats in this league and we really have to get back on track now for next week.

I do think that was a positive, both Kirmond and Washbrook did play with heart today, but there isn't much you can do when 2 of 17 are playing well

You sound very bitter and jealous there fella

in all fairness, the sky team were very positive about Wakefield prior to the game, problem is we didn't turn up.

the rest of the post is accurate, well summed up!!

For what it's worth some on here questioning everything from the coach to the skipper to the commitment of the players smacks of hysteria. Was a really bad performance, no doubt about that, but for me it's probably the first of the season (2nd half v bulls excepted). Some games you lose, that's sport, let's move on to Friday.

A mate of Agars and Elstons, old pals act.

Pathetic.

That is all.

at last a man after my own heart.
introduce yourself on friday i'll buy you a pint.

He's a ginner, every club needs a ginner. Nobody knows why, it's possibly one of the secret conditions of gaining a SuperLeague licence.

What you do have to take into consideration is the obvious symbiotic relationship between him and Agar. When Agar was assistant coach, he managed to see the back of Kear & Peter Sharp. When he was elevated to Head Coach, he managed to see the back of Jon Sharp and Dennis Moore.

There is a pattern, it will be revealed but rest assured, Webster has been by far the longest serving of Agar's colleagues

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480 bottom of the page, agar says what we are thinking... turned over far too easy, too many players didn't turn up

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480 bottom of the page, agar says what we are thinking... turned over far too easy, too many players didn't turn up

All the hard work and improving each week since start of season has been undone in 80 mins and now we will see what RA has in the coaching locker to sort it out.London were playing boring 1 man rugby with a decent kick with all the 50 50 calls but we were even more boring with no attack just hope we can pick ourselves up and beat the 1 man team on fri.

For all the justified disappointment after tonight, that's the key, and will be the measure of the man. He isn't the first Wakefield coach to head down to London and come back with a fat lip. Let's see how he, and more importantly, the players respond to the gash they served up today.

Also find it a bit ironic that we have been calling for a goal kicker all season now we have 1 we can't score a try

True, you've either got to laugh or top yourself. Is there another club/team that's more consistently inconsistent than us?

This and the pussycats game were ones we should be winning with Wigan and then Leeds in cup coming up it could be another few games without a win and the new team excuses coming out again.

I'd safely say we are consistent. 2 good 40 mins this year at a push. I like the spin though. GET DOWN BV AS YOU NEVER KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA WIN OR LOSE!!!

Today it was clearly the old haunting issue of lack of pride and individual errors which doesn't point to gelling factors.

Don't think anyone is seriously going to point to "gelling factors" after the previous 3 games. There's only so long that can apply, and the team have shown in the previous 2 weeks that they have that understanding. Whatever the reason for this result, it can't be down to the gel any more.

Yes gelling isn't the problem when you've have seen how we've played in the last few games. I'm just gonna have to put this down to the team not turning up, it happens and it's happened to better sides than ours, the key is how we're going to respond against Cas.

Its always amusing when someone appears to defend their mate!!!
Maybe i should re phrase,he is a waste of a shirt,to be more specific hes a waste of the number 10 shirt/prop.Makes zero impact when taking ball forward,runs onto the ball with the speed of an arthritic sloth,more often than not loses the collision.
I would imagine most of the tackling stats are up tonight ,particularly in the forwards,considering Amor hardly played and the oppostion had a glut of possession.
I didnt blame him for being penalised by Ganson.

If i was a rugby league coach i wouldnt play him at prop,hes a decent back rower,but just doesnt cut the mustard at prop.

I didn't want to talk about the ref but typically, Ganson can't help stealing a bit of the limelight; that penalty against Raleigh for moving off the mark (1 step sideways) was, in and of itself, a total joke. Mr Ganson then added to the hilarity a short while later when, right in front of him, Kaufusi took 3 steps forward off the mark and it was waved on.

We wouldn't have won tonight if the game had lasted another 80 minutes, but really? As I say every week - all we want is consistency.

I've commented a couple of times on that call at the time and even now hours after I'm still gobsmacked, it sent a clear message out to all the Trinity players on the field and that was, you ain't getting any calls go your way tonight lads and I'm gonna even make stuff up a I go.

FAO TURFEDOUT

Yes, I will defend a player who in my opinion you singled out unfairly. I read no similar criticism of your so called star players who kicked out on the full, dropped catches, missed tackles etc etc etc. Hence I feel you are being unfair and there is certainly no need to stoop to even more insults.

As I stated, and most would agree, it was a poor TEAM performance.

And I think you will find Raleigh puts that kind of tackle count in on most games. Perhaps you haven't heard that old saying DEFENCE WINS GAMES?

The only thing I find amusing about your comments is that you call yourself a supporter.

Sorry to disagree with Raleigh's Mum and Dad but, as I have said before, even disregarding the moving off the mark farce I too think he gives away too many penalties. He did add heading a ball to his repertoire tonight though.



Peter Fox was shocking, even allowing a little boy to out jump him on one occasion. Bring back Morton.



Southern spends too much time on the bench to be captain and but also too much time on the pitch in his current form.

How did Tony Clubb get Man of the Match? Gower kicked us to death!

AGAR OUT.