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| There is something to be said for a former player taking up the reigns, especially a hardnut like Radford; McDermott, Wane and Anderson all seem to command respect from their players and don't seem to be plagued by shirking and pat-a-cake tackling. It could also be argued that they think like a player and keep things simple - as opposed to over-analysing the game, which seems to be part of our problem.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I was talking to a group of Wakey fans in the Cats bar before the game on Friday - they were all for Morrison to come in ASAP. He would get the players playing with pride and urgency - like someone else posted "as if every game was a cup final".
Like when John Kear came in (was it 8 games left to play for - 2006 ?) it was a master-stroke.
Morrison reminds me a bit of Radford at Hull FC - not a brilliant coach by any means with not much experience but he knows how to get the best out of the players - Shaul, Rankin, Bowden, Colburn and Miller have all vastly inproved this term.'"
Totally agree Tigerade and I eckon Morrison has more going on than Radford...and cannot do worse tha Agar...I would back myself against him not that I claim RL genius.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Might get shot down for this but Paul Cooke IMO wouldn't be a bad option either, doing a decent job with Doncaster, or the Leigh RL coach whose name escapes. Plenty of decent coaches in the championship that could do a better job than Agar.'"
Won't shoot you down for an opinion but Paul Cooke...not for me. An ill disciplined player. He let us down as a player. I have no confidence he would ever have the ight kind of stuff to be a leader. He was trouble as a player. No thanks
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| Think one of Agars problems could be he acts more like a mate than a coach and that's why all those who have played for him think hes a good coach.
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| Quote ="les-goose"Think one of Agars problems could be he acts more like a mate than a coach and that's why all those who have played for him think hes a good coach.'"
Yep, probably talks to them over a cup of tea, rather than giving them a right royal rollicking!
Couldn't understand the reasoning over letting Morrison go in the first place.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Yep, probably talks to them over a cup of tea, rather than giving them a right royal rollicking!
Couldn't understand the reasoning over letting Morrison go in the first place.'" money do you think ?
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Won't shoot you down for an opinion but Paul Cooke...not for me. An ill disciplined player. He let us down as a player. I have no confidence he would ever have the ight kind of stuff to be a leader. He was trouble as a player. No thanks'"
I suppose, but Lee Radford was an ill disciplined player! and he's doing decent job at Hull. Mind you, who wouldn't with that squad? Oh yeah, our coach!
Cooke seems to be doing a decent job at Donny like Morrison at Dewanury. Perhaps we should take a punt on one of these two and let Agar rot in the lower leagues like he deserves.
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| I have pretty much resigned myself to the fact that nothing will change whilst we are in the position that we are.
RA will keep singing his beautiful song like a siren enticing the ship that is Wakefield onto the rocks.
Unfortunately by the time the Captain of this ship snaps out of this trance, the ship will be almost wrecked and a lot of the crew will have abandoned ship!
Whilst over at Bradford, Glenn Morrison, like a Greek god with his flowing blond locks, will be steering the Bulls back to the Golden Fleece!
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"I have pretty much resigned myself to the fact that nothing will change whilst we are in the position that we are.
RA will keep singing his beautiful song like a siren enticing the ship that is Wakefield onto the rocks.
Unfortunately by the time the Captain of this ship snaps out of this trance, the ship will be almost wrecked and a lot of the crew will have abandoned ship!
Whilst over at Bradford, Glenn Morrison, like a Greek god with his flowing blond locks, will be steering the Bulls back to the Golden Fleece!'"
On what basis do you believe Morrison will provide the answers. His coaching experience is limited at best but I guess you would accept a trained chimp in place of Agar. I note that the Bradford forum do not have the same belief as you because he is not even mentioned as a possible replacement.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"On what basis do you believe Morrison will provide the answers. His coaching experience is limited at best but I guess you would accept a trained chimp in place of Agar. I note that the Bradford forum do not have the same belief as you because he is not even mentioned as a possible replacement.'"
I base it on speculation.
Don't think Morrison would be the answer this season.
If Bradford go down, they will restructure correctly and be in a better state than now when they come back up.
Where as we will still be stumbling along with the same excuses.
Don't think the chimp is daft enough to take the job on but could employ him as a motivational guru!
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| Quote ="bren2k"There is something to be said for a former player taking up the reigns, especially a hardnut like Radford; McDermott, Wane and Anderson all seem to command respect from their players and don't seem to be plagued by shirking and pat-a-cake tackling. It could also be argued that they think like a player and keep things simple - as opposed to over-analysing the game, which seems to be part of our problem.'"
All of those are no nonsense hard forwards and they certainly wont take any cr@p from any of their players.
I don't see us changing Agar unless pretty much all of the fans stop going to home games (like the Cas fans did over Milward).
Until that happens, we're stuck with RA and we could still end up getting another Peter Roe or Casper Smith as we are unlikely to entice a proven SL standard coach.
Damned if we do and damned if we don't.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"... but I guess you would accept a trained chimp in place of Agar.'"
Some people wouldn't be bothered if the chimp was trained or not as long as it replaced Agar
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| Couldn't we send him out on lone like we do with the players that don't perform
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"On what basis do you believe Morrison will provide the answers. His coaching experience is limited at best but I guess you would accept a trained chimp in place of Agar. I note that the Bradford forum do not have the same belief as you because he is not even mentioned as a possible replacement.'"
I would accept a trained chimp in place of Agar. Even an untrained one
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| Quote ="PopTart"Aren't you getting bored with this conversation yet?'"
I regret even if they got bored with this thread they will still have about another 6 to carry it on.
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| Quote ="wildwoman"Couldn't we send him out on lone like we do with the players that don't perform
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He can have a free transfer any time he wants.
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| Quote ="les-goose"Think one of Agars problems could be he acts more like a mate than a coach and that's why all those who have played for him think hes a good coach.'"
I suspect you are bang on. Nice blokes who eveyone likes sometimes don't make the best leaders
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I regret even if they got bored with this thread they will still have about another 6 to carry it on.'"
Oh dear, is Mrs Agar getting upset?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Oh dear, is Mrs Agar getting upset?'"
I doubt it probably more interested how Castleford are doing but speaking for myself I am just bored of the constant speculation by so called experts. If I was involved with the club I would stay clear of reading the forum which they probably do because at best those who write on here may be some of the more dedicated followers but represent only about 5% of the supporters. I believe some take these opportunities to voice their prejudices against not only the coaching staff but players as well.
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| A lot more than 5% walked out early doors at our last couple of home games so you could argue only 5% of supporters think Agar is a good coach.End of day we all have a view on whats going on and whos right or wrong but when the coach sticks Mathers on the wing the evidence in this case is rather one sided My Lord.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Like when John Kear came in (was it 8 games left to play for - 2006 ?) it was a master-stroke.
Morrison reminds me a bit of Radford at Hull FC - not a brilliant coach by any means with not much experience but he knows how to get the best out of the players - Shaul, Rankin, Bowden, Colburn and Miller have all vastly inproved this term.'"
I read somewhere that Brett Hodgson,as at Widnes,had been taken to Hull FC to work with the backs - [url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-recruit-Brett-Hodgson-mentor-Jamie-Shaul/story-20793779-detail/story.htmlThis just mentions Shaul[/url
As for Leigh,they can apparently afford Super League players that some Super League clubs cannot afford.I'm certain they signed an ex-Wakey player recently - to add to their haul of ex-Super League players.
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| Ollie Wilkes has gone to them feel we miss his style at times nothing fancy just take it in direct.
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| Can we please revert to Mathers at full back and Sammut and Godinet as the halves. It was working dammit. Stop messing and rotating players before its too late this season. (I can already hear the anti-Mathers brigade assembling).
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| I'm starting to disagree with that, and I called for it originally.
I'm liking Sammut at full back and while we are down on centres Mathers is covering there.
Godinet certainly should be scrum half in my opinion
Stand off is up for grabs between Siejka and Sykes
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