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| Quote ="The Clan"When Agar arrived about 20 months ago, do you think the young players we had were ready?'"
Wildie I think was, the others have shown this year they were ready to step up. Beyond that I dont remember many of the young players being loaned out to get valuable game time to develop, but that preceeded Agar, which is why I feel its a collective responsibility rather than just one indiviual.
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| To be fair he had a nice group fresh out of strolling to a top of the table finish and grand final win playing fantastic RL.......From watching that team every week back then it's a shade disappointing to see where......Wildie....Trout....Annakin.....Cowling.....Walshaw....are now in terms of their development.....
Teams like that one don't come along very often and at this stage of their careers I would have expected a bit more of a return.....not sure who's at fault with that? Maybe it's easier for youngsters like that to bed in at a Wigan or a Leeds.....
That team was special though and should have formed the backbone of our side for years to come.....the best I'd seen before that was the side that pushed the 'great' Leeds academy winning side all the way.....with the likes of Brough....Handforth....Mason.....Feather.....etc.....
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| Don't know the 4 but makes it a bit clearer why we have re signed Sykes, L.Smith and Ali.
As for the juniors, Annakin has done ok, who's to say Cowling, Goulding, Walshaw and Kay wouldn't have. Not saying bang them all in at the deep end but you have to be a bit pro active and look to the future. Lyne was looking good until his injury, after that looked no better than what we have at the club already.
We had a 3 year plan, in that time with correct management all round, the club would be in a better state. We have lived the dream by making the 8 in the first year, that has lead to us abandoning the 3 year building plan.
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| Quote ="upthecats"To be fair he had a nice group fresh out of strolling to a top of the table finish and grand final win playing fantastic RL.......From watching that team every week back then it's a shade disappointing to see where......Wildie....Trout....Annakin.....Cowling.....Walshaw....are now in terms of their development..........'"
Agar wasn't appointed until 2 years or so after that, so who's responsible for their and other juniors lack of development in the meantime?
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| If I remember correctly, didn't they all play under Tony Drury ????
Whatever happened to him, and is it coincidence that these promising young lads have not developed as much since he left ???
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| Quote ="The Clan"Agar wasn't appointed until 2 years or so after that, so who's responsible for their and other juniors lack of development in the meantime?'"
Tony Drury and Glenn Morrison will have had day to day contact.
However John Kear was the only guy who could give them a chance at the next level.
Can't think of any other names Clan, could it be anyone else ?
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| Amor to Saints as I understand it.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Tony Drury and Glenn Morrison will have had day to day contact.
However John Kear was the only guy who could give them a chance at the next level.
Can't think of any other names Clan, could it be anyone else ?'"
Tony in particular and Glenn to a much lesser extent did well with the resources they had, that's the key word, 'Resources'. Physiologically the juniors at Wakefield have suffered from a lack of development because of a lack of funding and resources. The players they were beating at U18 physically became bigger, stronger and faster which in turn allowed them to develop technically as well.
Those players were let down by the club and their opportunity to become SL players was damaged by the lack of investment. Maybe that was just the reality of being at a struggling club or maybe every penny and every resource was pulled into supporting the first team meaning the juniors were underdone in comparison with their peers.
Richard Agar had nothing to do with that, he has however done what he can to help those players who remained to catch up.
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| Quote ="jonh"Amor to Saints as I understand it.'"
Was Hull a couple of days ago.
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| Looks like a bidding war?
Highest bid wins??
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| Quote ="FIL"If I remember correctly, didn't they all play under Tony Drury ????
Whatever happened to him, and is it coincidence that these promising young lads have not developed as much since he left ???'"
Thanks Tony!
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| Why are we in this embarrassing position again. Why can we not go two seasons without a crisis. We the supporters have no blame in this or any of the previous problems, but it will be us who will have to pay up to see the way things are going a patched up squad. I thought no players would be sold for at least two months but now we learn that we have accepted an offer on a contracted player and I have no doubt he will not be the last. I also believe that more will go in the next 8 weeks despite reassurances to the contrary. I guess being on contract at wakefield does not guarantee security that they will be here next season but that they have a greater asset value when we come to off load them.
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| Quote ="jonh"Amor to Saints as I understand it.'"
Heard it was Amor to Hudds.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Heard it was Amor to Hudds.'"
He's going to be a busy boy next year. Salford, Hull, Saints and The Farts? Sure I've read he's been linked to Wigan too.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Heard it was Amor to Hudds.'"
Amor to Hudds
Mathers to Widnes
Kirmond Xfer request
Tigerade to Troll School
Lots of stories no evidence, a lesser man would think you are reveling in our troubles, you being a C*s fan and all.
We may lose players, they may go to clubs mentioned, do you really think you are helping here - if so you are sadly misguided
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| Amor has choice of three clubs,Ben is off to kr Aiton to leeds Danny k to Warrington anikin to saints. collis to le cats add to this we won't be signing anyone we are in for another long hard seaso.
I won't buy a season ticket now esp while that muppet Elston at the club
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| It's no one to nowhere, if we make up the shortfall in our funding.
Great to see all the diehards pledging their support for the new chairman and then speculating about who's next, especially when they drag non-playing staff into the equation and are wrong. Michael Carter must be well chuffed with all the support he's getting.
Great thread.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"It's no one to nowhere, if we make up the shortfall in our funding.
Great to see all the diehards pledging their support for the new chairman and then speculating about who's next, especially when they drag non-playing staff into the equation and are wrong. Michael Carter must be well chuffed with all the support he's getting.
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Support he is getting cos fans are fed up of been on again those players are off it already been announced on shy sports text that we accepted an offer for Ben.im not havin ago at carter but there's one lie not that I blame him it's not his mess
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| Quote ="dragon13"Support he is getting cos fans are fed up of been poop on again those players are off it already been announced on shy sports text that we accepted an offer for Ben.im not havin ago at carter but there's one lie not that I blame him it's not his mess'"
Most fans have been trying to persuade the club to snap Sandinyercocks hand off for weeks.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Most fans have been trying to persuade the club to snap Sandinyercocks hand off for weeks.'"
Indeed, I'm sure some would moan if Trinity received and accepted an offer for Mellars.
There are three to four key players Trinity will not be able to replace, should any of the others go then they are interchangeable with other average SL players.
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| Heard today from a couple of Wakey fans that the debt is much more than the 400k stated and Agar has told all the players if they want to find themselves a new club they will be sold
Dont have a clue if its true or not, just posting a rumour
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| Quote ="dragon13"Support he is getting cos fans are fed up of been poop on again those players are off it already been announced on shy sports text that we accepted an offer for Ben.im not havin ago at carter but there's one lie not that I blame him it's not his mess'"
I don't see why the fans are being pooped on.
They have sold a player. That is all that has happened.
After that they are effectively saying fans need to buy STs and pay on gate if they want a team.
Nothing has changed there, apart from board thinking more would come for the lower cost.
I'm sure in hindsight they'd increase that cost now.
They haven't taken anything off fans, or asked us to pay more, just buy the product.
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| Not claiming my source is accurate but he is likely to be as in the know as most, Amor to Saints, Ben to KR, airin and Poore to Leeds, and the new regim have asked Salford if they would like to make another bid for Kirmond.
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| Quote ="fevfan76"Heard today from a couple of Wakey fans that the debt is much more than the 400k stated and Agar has told all the players if they want to find themselves a new club they will be sold
Dont have a clue if its true or not, just posting a rumour
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of course the debt is bigger, its massively bigger, the 400K is operations shortfall to get us through to the next income of cash. The off season we have 19's and first team squad to pay, plus every non playing staff member too ! That's what's needed, the debt is another huge problem, so is the directors loan from west York's window's at over 400K itself Unlike you flat cappers who have millions of pounds worth of land as assets, plus you own your ground, we have no ground, and no assets, its not rocket science that we are in deep poo poo
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| Quote ="upthecats"To be fair he had a nice group fresh out of strolling to a top of the table finish and grand final win playing fantastic RL.......From watching that team every week back then it's a shade disappointing to see where......Wildie....Trout....Annakin.....Cowling.....Walshaw....are now in terms of their development.....'"
Were the juniors ever good enough to play regular Super League or just to get a title on a CV?
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