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| Quote ="mark73"Well how will Huddersfield fit both fergie and Murphy under the salary cap, they got loads of 1st team players already. I cant see this happening. Roll on tomorrow for a statement from the club.'"
Are the players that are leaving ones that perhaps were contracted for 2012? Maybe the administrator is preempting the franchise decision for the 2012 season onwards. Could be a case that some of the players remain with us on loan until the 2012 season. I guess we'll just have to wait and see
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Why indeed. This coupled with the rumoured maximum penalty and it makes you wonder whether there is a hidden agenda here.'"
Sorry but the bod and nobody else got us into this mess. It isn't the RFL who aren't turning up at Belle Vue - its the fans. It isn't the RFL who have transformed a great ground into the worst in SL. It isn't the RFL who have failed to pay its tax bill 3 times in less than a year. The maximum 6 point penalty depends upon what amount of debt the new owners are prepared to take on. No carried over debt means 6 points.
We are all upset, rightly so with todays events, but we have to look at our selves first.. We got our selves into this mess and nobody else.
Hopefully this is our lowest point, we have got rid off the existing management of the club. We are for the chop, but we can rebuild and come back stronger. We won't be the first or the last team to do this.
We must first though accept we have made huge mistakes and learn from them. it is pointless blaming anybody else for our downfall and it does nothing to help our future survival.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I very much doubt the players will be on that big wages, And Huddersfield wont be spending the full cap IMO, Especially not after freeing up the Brett Hodgson money.'"
Hodgson out, Luke O'Donnell and Jamie Simpson in. Come off it - Hudds will be at full cap.
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| Quote ="Fully"Hodgson out, Luke O'Donnell and Jamie Simpson in. Come off it - Hudds will be at full cap.'"
No. Before we signed Simpson we had space for and were looking at two overseas signings.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"No. Before we signed Simpson we had space for and were looking at two overseas signings.'"
So what about after Simpson?
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| Desperately sorry for you Wakey fans, as the team seems to be imploding.
I can`t see where either of the 2 players mentioned would actually fit into the present squad, as we seem well covered in both positions.
My hope is that they would be taken and loaned back for the season on dual registration.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"No. Before we signed Simpson we had space for and were looking at two overseas signings.'"
I read that, quote"fergi would be a good signing got a bit of mongrel in him" from you on your forum. come on ere to pick a few morsels from us as well?
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| Quote ="wildcatowl"I read that, quote"fergi would be a good signing got a bit of mongrel in him" from you on your forum. come on ere to pick a few morsels from us as well?'"
Although you did not quote my post from the VT.
Quote Depressing is an understatement. I really feel for them as it appears they are experiencing death by a 1000 cuts.
It is no way to treat the fans. No matter what the fault of the owners or management is, the fans are innocent parties in all of this.
They should be told the truth and know exactly where they stand. Anything less is cruel and wrong IMHO'"
I do have alot of sympathy for you. I have followed Huddersfiedl for 33 years and know what it is like to be at rock bottom.
My comments about Fergy were in response to comments about whether he would be a good signing. I think he would be. I would prefer it if it was not happening this way but it is.
I do not know what is going on at Wakefield but posters who know more than i are suggesting your players are being touted around by the administartors for finacial reasons, that players are being told to go to help wakefield, players do not want to go but are being pushed. IF that is true then you cannot balme other clubs for picking up quality players.
Vultures feed on the dead. it was not us who shot you. I dont know who pulled the trigger but i hope you find out soon and that you get told the truth about what is going on.
I am sad at seeing the demise of wakefield as one of the founding clubs. I love and are proud about our joint RL history. My hope is that you can come back from this stronger than before.
I understand why people ar angry and maybe the last thing you want is sympathy but that is all i have to offer at the minute.
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| A very fitting tribute to put on another teams board but if you go to your forum "dale ferguson to giants" thread your words were "fergie is a top player. got a bit of mongrel in him. would be a good signing."
below reads "looks like aaron murphy might be coming as well.Another one with a lot of potential"
They are actual quotes.
No mention of "prefering they weren't happening!
I quote you another shall I "there but for the grace of god go I"
Jog on
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| Im sure Shuddersfield have simple asked Broughy who is worth taking the risk with, and he has highlighted two young British players who have a future in the game. If they can grab them off us on the cheap, again, can you really argue with their decision ?
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"Im sure Shuddersfield have simple asked Broughy who is worth taking the risk with, and he has highlighted two young British players who have a future in the game. If they can grab them off us on the cheap, again, can you really argue with their decision ?'"
Yes and.....No. realistically they prob can't not go for them but what happened to it being "our game"
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| Quote ="wildcatowl"Yes and.....No. realistically they prob can't not go for them but what happened to it being "our game"'"
The post on their forum hit the nail on the head, no sentiment in this game and all that.
Ask Leeds United fans many years ago, and what they thought when all their stars were picked up on the cheap.
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| Quote ="wildcatowl"Yes and.....No. realistically they prob can't not go for them but what happened to it being "our game"'"
It's never been that , players have always been poached , always will , wait till your in the Championship and don't get any help with your academy , but your still expected to produce players , for other clubs
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| Then the game has gone downhill and is getting too near to the money grabbing, win at all cost. f*** everyone else that is football.
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"The post on their forum hit the nail on the head, no sentiment in this game and all that.
Ask Leeds United fans many years ago, and what they thought when all their stars were picked up on the cheap.'"
It's the falseness that grates, not the situation itself. We'll deal with that as we always have done.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"viewtopic.php?p=15842883#p15842883
Spot on Wildcatowl... creamed undies all round from the "I'm gutted for you really" Giants fan.'"
And you think that the posts are contradictory
You think it is impossible to empathise with another teams fans whilst making a factual comment about one of your players. As for the Murphy post i picked that up from your forum who said that he was coming to us.
I uinderstand your anger but maybe you should not use a shotgun approach when firing off .
maybe its best l leave you alone.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"You think it is impossible to empathise with another teams fans whilst making a factual comment about one of your players.'"
No, but that's not how I read your posts, unless it's OK to empathise on one thread and cream yourself on another. Not that it matters much either way. Enjoy, should you have the pleasure.
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| A number of points trouble me (as an impartial observer)
1) How much research did Glover carry out before making his bid ?
Surely enough to justify his investment given that he is not a lifeling rugby league fan but a succcesful businessman.
2) How much information did the administrators withhold from Mr Glover ?
NONE. Legally they are obliged to present a warts n all picture of the company they are administrating?
3) Assuming points 1&2 are correct what prompted Mr Glovers "No players for sale" comments on Friday ?
Only Mr Glover knows.
How much of Wakefields current financial plight is down to the RFL ?
None.
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| Swap Murphey, fergi, Tony and Korki for brough?
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| Quote ="youngcat"Sorry but the bod and nobody else got us into this mess. It isn't the RFL who aren't turning up at Belle Vue - its the fans. It isn't the RFL who have transformed a great ground into the worst in SL. It isn't the RFL who have failed to pay its tax bill 3 times in less than a year. The maximum 6 point penalty depends upon what amount of debt the new owners are prepared to take on. No carried over debt means 6 points.
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Hopefully this is our lowest point, we have got rid off the existing management of the club. We are for the chop, but we can rebuild and come back stronger. We won't be the first or the last team to do this.
We must first though accept we have made huge mistakes and learn from them. it is pointless blaming anybody else for our downfall and it does nothing to help our future survival.'"
No one is arguing its the past managements fault we have ended up in the position we are. The problem is that we do not seem to be treated the same as Crusaders were. I repeat other than Hauraki who else did they have to sell whilst in admin? Answer no-one.
You can't tell me had the administrators made the likes of sammut, witt and withers available clubs would not have been interested. Oh and it was the same administrators and HMRC got shafted - the same HMRC who are now our biggest creditor and are no doubt the ones that players are being sold to appease.
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| TOTALLY agree Tricky - its the way Crusaders and Trinity have been so differently treated -. The RFL should hang their heads in shame!! There is no doubt that Steve Parkin eas intimated this info before he pulled out. Its just like the club is being raped before our very eyes and we cannot do a thing about it. I have watched Wakefield since 1960 and I am heartbroken at what is going on. We, the supporters, can just go to hell as far as the RFL are concerned. Just how can other clubs stand by and say nowt when they see the double standards!!! Remember all clubs helping Bradford Northern out decades ago when they were on the points of going under - now its just a case of I,m alright Jack and stuff you. RFL ANS SL HAVE A LOT TO ANSWER FOR!!!!!
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| Add to that schifcofske as well.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"No one is arguing its the past managements fault we have ended up in the position we are. The problem is that we do not seem to be treated the same as Crusaders were. I repeat other than Hauraki who else did they have to sell whilst in admin? Answer no-one.
You can't tell me had the administrators made the likes of sammut, witt and withers available clubs would not have been interested. Oh and it was the same administrators and HMRC got shafted - the same HMRC who are now our biggest creditor and are no doubt the ones that players are being sold to appease.'"
I do not know if you can compare the situation with hauraki as it was rumoured the Giants offered £50 K and he went to Leeds for a lot more than that.
I would doubt that any of the Wakefield players being signed are going for anywhere near that.
Despite that i would agree with the point that the RFL were more concerned with helping out Crusaders than they have been with helping wakey.
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